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How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?

Started byMarion <marion@facts.com>
First post2025-04-16 06:12 +0000
Last post2025-08-20 14:37 +0000
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  How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-16 06:12 +0000
    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 06:35 +0000
      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-16 07:44 +0000
        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-16 12:58 +0100
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-16 13:02 +0100
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 11:25 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 19:38 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-17 21:47 +0200
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 19:58 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:28 -0700
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 22:44 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 22:53 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:55 -0700
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-18 01:16 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-24 23:14 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-24 18:47 -0700
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-25 05:50 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 06:42 +0000
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-25 15:25 +0000
                            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 16:52 +0000
                              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 18:34 +0000
                                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 19:28 +0000
                                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 20:35 +0000
                                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 21:57 +0000
                                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 22:23 +0000
                                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-25 17:30 -0500
                                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 22:35 +0000
                                            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-25 18:15 -0500
                                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-25 17:32 -0500
                                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-25 22:53 -0700
                              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-26 08:36 +0000
                                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-26 09:22 +0000
                                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-26 20:37 +0000
                                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-26 22:20 +0000
                                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 22:51 +0000
                                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-28 00:15 +0000
                                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 11:03 +0000
                                            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-28 12:36 +0000
                                              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-28 09:32 -0400
                                                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-28 20:11 +0000
                                              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 20:59 +0000
                                                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-29 02:16 +0000
                                                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-29 03:33 +0000
                                                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-29 09:48 -0700
                                                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 07:37 +0000
                                                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-29 17:54 +0000
                                                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-29 11:34 -0700
                                                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 22:14 +0000
                                                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:53 -0500
                                                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-30 01:01 +0000
                                                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-30 00:48 +0000
                                                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-30 07:56 +0000
                                                            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-30 11:16 -0700
                                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-29 09:43 -0700
                                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2025-04-29 20:28 +0200
                                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-29 12:11 -0700
                                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2025-04-30 01:09 +0200
                                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-29 16:56 -0700
                                            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2025-04-30 03:07 +0200
                                              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-29 18:10 -0700
                                                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2025-04-30 06:12 +0200
                                                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-29 21:40 -0700
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 18:16 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 13:20 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:42 -0700
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 18:21 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 12:46 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 17:07 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:31 -0700
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 11:12 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:32 -0700
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:29 -0700
        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 10:52 -0700
        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 18:58 +0000
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 19:08 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 12:19 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 17:03 +0000
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 15:15 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 19:29 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-18 00:34 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 17:48 -0700
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-18 02:17 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:35 -0700
      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-16 14:22 +0000
        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 10:54 -0700
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-16 19:11 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 19:43 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 13:11 -0700
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-16 22:51 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 00:44 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 10:52 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 17:02 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 15:38 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 15:46 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-22 16:05 +0000
        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 22:00 +0000
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-16 23:19 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 00:57 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 06:04 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 23:45 -0700
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 12:43 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 12:43 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 15:26 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 15:26 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-24 18:57 +0200
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-24 10:18 -0700
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-25 17:10 +0200
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-25 15:38 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 17:06 +0000
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-27 20:14 +0200
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 16:00 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-27 20:15 +0200
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-25 19:18 -0700
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-24 17:45 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-25 17:11 +0200
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 16:02 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 18:56 -0700
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 05:58 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 11:05 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?  They use standard SMB of course.   (was: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 13:45 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?  They use standard SMB of course. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 14:34 +0000
                    Video showing Arlen is an ignorant liar (was Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? They use standard SMB of course. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:05 -0700
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 01:16 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 01:31 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-19 01:39 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-19 22:38 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-19 16:53 -0700
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-19 22:54 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-20 18:10 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 02:21 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 07:49 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 13:48 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 14:27 +0000
        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-17 17:57 +0000
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 18:03 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-18 04:25 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-18 10:20 -0700
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-18 18:35 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-18 16:16 -0700
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-19 01:21 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-18 19:27 -0700
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-22 03:44 +0200
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 02:06 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-24 19:00 +0200
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-24 10:04 -0700
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-25 17:13 +0200
                            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-25 19:19 -0700
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-24 17:47 +0000
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-25 17:14 +0200
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-24 23:54 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? John  Gardner <usenet@gardner.host> - 2025-05-14 11:01 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-22 07:25 +0200
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 15:27 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-24 19:02 +0200
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-24 10:16 -0700
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 18:52 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-24 23:54 +0000
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-25 15:13 +0000
                            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-25 17:33 +0200
                              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 20:11 +0200
                                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-25 18:41 +0000
                                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-27 20:18 +0200
                                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-27 19:56 +0000
                                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-27 20:28 +0000
                                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-25 19:20 -0700
                                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-26 04:23 +0000
                                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-26 19:41 +0200
                                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-26 19:16 +0000
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-25 17:15 +0200
                            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-25 19:21 -0700
                              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-27 20:19 +0200
                                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-29 09:49 -0700
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-19 10:22 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 02:05 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-22 18:01 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-22 12:47 -0700
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-22 20:13 +0000
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-22 18:05 -0500
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-23 13:33 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-23 13:51 +0000
          Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank... (was: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 20:39 +0000
            Re: Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank... (was: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 21:12 +0000
              Re: Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank... Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 21:35 +0000
                Re: Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 21:47 +0000
                  Re: Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank... Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:05 -0700
                    Re: Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 22:11 +0000
    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-18 11:56 +0200
      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-18 12:04 +0200
        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 02:08 +0000
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-24 19:04 +0200
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-24 17:35 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-24 14:59 -0500
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-24 21:03 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-24 17:13 -0500
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 05:29 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-24 14:29 -0700
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-24 17:09 -0500
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-24 15:53 -0700
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-24 18:32 -0500
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-24 18:48 -0700
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 05:29 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> - 2025-04-25 06:47 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-25 07:03 -0700
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 15:56 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-25 17:17 +0200
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-25 15:50 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 17:16 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-25 18:11 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 19:45 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-26 19:48 +0200
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-26 18:51 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-27 20:21 +0200
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-27 19:31 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-27 20:45 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-27 22:01 +0000
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-27 22:55 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-27 23:58 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 16:11 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 18:29 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-26 09:40 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-26 14:36 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-25 22:51 -0700
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-04-24 21:31 +0200
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-24 22:34 +0200
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-24 23:39 +0200
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-04-25 00:01 +0200
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 02:09 +0200
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-04-25 10:37 +0200
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 13:21 +0200
                        Re: ftp or sftp server [Was: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 15:43 +0200
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 00:21 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-04-25 10:18 +0200
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-25 07:05 -0700
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 18:10 +0000
    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 16:14 +0000
      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-25 17:20 +0200
        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 18:51 +0000
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-27 20:23 +0200
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-15 03:16 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-08-20 15:36 +0200
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-22 02:23 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-20 14:37 +0000

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#147901 — Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? They use standard SMB of course.

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-04-17 14:34 +0000
SubjectRe: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? They use standard SMB of course.
Message-ID<vtr3go$2q2j$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#147898
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 13:45:59 +0000, Tyrone wrote :


>> I'm digging for the answer - like an intelligent person should.
> 
> No. An intelligent person would accept the facts. A petulant child would
> remain in denial. 

Please remember those words when you decide whether to apologize or not
when you're forced (by facts) to admit iOS/Android can't bind to port 445.

Make note of these two very important data points:
 \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)
 C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd

Bonjour/mDNS can make things simpler but it won't change the underlying
interaction other than to allow automatic discovery of the hostname (e.g.,
\\my-iphone.local) and the port (which will still be 445 in this test).
 C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd
 C:\> net use Z: \\my-iphone.local\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd

>> Yet I'm well aware of how Apple users think, which is that only Apple can
>> (magically) do the impossible. It's a defining feature of all Apple users.
> 
> Why is this impossible? Do you think it is hard coded into Unix forever that
> no one can ever use port 445? Do you think Apple can't change anything they
> want?  In their own source code?

Just as it was when you Apple trolls insisted a dBm & a Mbps were the same, 
the reason you are Apple trolls is because you believe Apple is your God.

Funny, Apple trolls never admitted they were dead wrong then either.
 *Snit video purportedly detailing iOS showing Wi-Fi dBm over time*
 <https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo>
 *It's a fact iOS devices can't even graph Wi-Fi signal strength over time*
 <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/PZuec56EWB0>
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/PZuec56EWB0>

I don't mind that you Apple trolls are wrong. What I mind is you don't know
the difference between a decibel and a megabitpersecond in that case.

In this case, you Apple trolls still can't figure out the difference
between what an iOS SMB server does versus what the iOS SMB client does.
 \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)
 C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd

>> Another defining feature of all Apple users is they have no idea how
>> anything works. That's also what makes Apple users what they are.
> 
> I know exactly how this works. I have been networking computers since before
> you were born. The only troll here is you, claiming it can't work because YOU
> say it can't work. Circular logic much?

Heh heh heh... first off, I never said I was a networking expert. In fact,
I've said many times that I'm NOT a networking expert. 

Yet, just as Alan Baker claims to be an expert in things he knows nothing
about, you don't appear to know the difference between a server & a client.
 \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)

To use the iOS SMB server, you need to run a command like this:
 C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd

> You even admitted that Windows SMB needs port 445. The app SHOWS it is using
> port 445. 

Heh heh heh... as an SMB client.
 \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)
 C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd

> Therefore, it IS using port 445. 

You need to go back to Costco where you bought that "Networking Expert"
name plate and return it since you can't figure out the difference between
what an iOS SMB client does, versus what an iOS SMB server does.
 \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)
 C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd

Don't worry. Costco will refund your money... no questions asked.

> AGAIN, why don't you DL the app "LAN Drive SMB Server" and try it?  BTW this
> app has existed for a least 6 years. So this is not a new solution. 

Copying a file from iOS to a Windows share is using the iOS SMB client.
Copying a file from a Windows share to iOS is using the iOS SMB client.

Do you even have any idea how to test using an iOS SMB server with Windows?
 \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)
 C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd

> Why are you always claiming something is "impossible" that you yourself have
> never tried?  Remember, you ALSO said it was "impossible to copy a photo from
> Windows to iOS without using internet servers".

Heh heh heh,... I expressly said I don't doubt that SMB clients can copy a
file from Windows to iOS and vice versa. The issue was *initiating* it.

> Do you STILL cling to that absurd claim? As we proved, it not only CAN be
> done, but it is easy to do using built-in functionality in both Windows and
> iOS. 

First, tell me which device you are sitting at when you initiate that copy. 
 
> Of course, after proving that claim to be wrong, you moved the goal posts by
> stating "No, I meant that I want to do all file moves FROM Windows. But that
> is impossible".

I operate my entire Android interactions over Windows, not on the phone
itself. That's well known. Why would that have to be crippled on iOS?

> And here we are, proving that it IS possible by using an SMB Server app on
> iOS. And yet you are still claiming it is "impossible", only because you say
> it is "impossible".

heh heh heh... I wonder if you'll apologize as vehemently as you attack
when you finally realize you mixed up what a server does versus a client.
 \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)
 C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd

Note that Bonjour or mDNS can make the discovery hidden so expressly state
the port so that we're sure of exactly which port is being used please.

> Now, you are AGAIN changing the "issue" into "What port can this app be using?
>  It CAN'T be port 445 because I say so".

A non-rooted/jailbroken iOS/Android device can't bind to port 445 (AFAIK). 
You can pick any reason you like. 

Don't blame me for your inability to like what happens to be how it works.

> Which is just more deflection away from you being wrong twice about moving
> files between Windows and iOS. But keep on digging that hole. In a couple more
> days you will have been proven wrong 3 times.

heh heh heh... Let's see how many (if any) of you Apple trolls will
publicly apologize for not understanding an SMB server versus the client.
 \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)
 C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd

> What will your next deflection be?  "What I REALLY want is to pretend it is
> 2005 and do all of this over a USB cable"?

Simply copying a file from iOS to Windows and back is NOT exercising an SMB
server even though you "think" that's what it's doing. It's not.
 \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)
 C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd

Since you bought a "Networking Expert" placard from Costco, let's test it
out by having you run the simple "net use" command with your iOS server.

 C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd
  If you are correct, then that command should report it succeeded. Right?
  Show us a screenshot of: "The command completed successfully."
  You would then be able to access the files and folders within 
  \\192.168.1.24\SharedFiles through File Explorer or by using the 
  assigned drive letter.

If I'm correct, then I predict you'll get a Connection Timeout or Refusal
with some kind of typical Windows networking error message such as

a. "No network provider accepted the given network path."
b. "The network path was not found."
c. "The remote computer refused the network connection."
d.  A timeout error might also occur as Windows waits for a response

In summary, when you run the "net use" command above, specifying the port
you claim is being bound by iOS, it will either work - or it won't work.

You tell me since you insist it works.
(I already assume it will fail based on my understanding of how iOS works.)

Prove me wrong if you're so sure non-jailbroken iOS binds to port 445.

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#147921 — Video showing Arlen is an ignorant liar (was Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? They use standard SMB of course.

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-04-17 15:05 -0700
SubjectVideo showing Arlen is an ignorant liar (was Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? They use standard SMB of course.
Message-ID<vtrtuj$1gb21$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#147901
On 2025-04-17 07:34, Marion wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 13:45:59 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
> 
> 
>>> I'm digging for the answer - like an intelligent person should.
>>
>> No. An intelligent person would accept the facts. A petulant child would
>> remain in denial.
> 
> Please remember those words when you decide whether to apologize or not
> when you're forced (by facts) to admit iOS/Android can't bind to port 445.
> 
> Make note of these two very important data points:
>   \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)

Chris explained that was incorrect.

>   C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd

Yes, and if you were bright enough, you'd realize that that command 
proves your interpretation of the first line was wrong.

> 
> Bonjour/mDNS can make things simpler but it won't change the underlying
> interaction other than to allow automatic discovery of the hostname (e.g.,
> \\my-iphone.local) and the port (which will still be 445 in this test).
>   C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd
>   C:\> net use Z: \\my-iphone.local\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd
> 
>>> Yet I'm well aware of how Apple users think, which is that only Apple can
>>> (magically) do the impossible. It's a defining feature of all Apple users.
>>
>> Why is this impossible? Do you think it is hard coded into Unix forever that
>> no one can ever use port 445? Do you think Apple can't change anything they
>> want?  In their own source code?
> 

<your deflection snipped>

> In this case, you Apple trolls still can't figure out the difference
> between what an iOS SMB server does versus what the iOS SMB client does.
>   \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)
>   C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd

Saying it a second time doesn't make you any more correct.

> 
>>> Another defining feature of all Apple users is they have no idea how
>>> anything works. That's also what makes Apple users what they are.
>>
>> I know exactly how this works. I have been networking computers since before
>> you were born. The only troll here is you, claiming it can't work because YOU
>> say it can't work. Circular logic much?
> 
> Heh heh heh... first off, I never said I was a networking expert. In fact,
> I've said many times that I'm NOT a networking expert.
> 
> Yet, just as Alan Baker claims to be an expert in things he knows nothing
> about, you don't appear to know the difference between a server & a client.
>   \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)

I've never claimed to be an expert in anything, Arlen.

I've claimed that I own a BMW 135i...

...which you claimed I couldn't possibly own because I didn't know which 
of "bimmer" or "beemer" applies to BMW cars versus their bikes (still 
don't know, nor care).

I've claimed that I race a 1998 Van Diemen RF98 Honda Formula F, and 
that I'm now a race driving instructor with the Sports Car Club of 
British Columbia...

...which you claim cannot be true because you're stuck on the idée fixe 
that the shape of the arc made by a racing car in a corner is a catenary 
(it's not, and I can prove it).

> 
> To use the iOS SMB server, you need to run a command like this:
>   C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd

No, that is the command to connect TO an SMB server, nitwit.

> 
>> You even admitted that Windows SMB needs port 445. The app SHOWS it is using
>> port 445.
> 
> Heh heh heh... as an SMB client.
>   \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)
>   C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd
> 

Third time is as wrong as the first two.

>> Therefore, it IS using port 445.
> 
> You need to go back to Costco where you bought that "Networking Expert"
> name plate and return it since you can't figure out the difference between
> what an iOS SMB client does, versus what an iOS SMB server does.
>   \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)
>   C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd

Fourth time: still wrong.

> 
> Don't worry. Costco will refund your money... no questions asked.
> 
>> AGAIN, why don't you DL the app "LAN Drive SMB Server" and try it?  BTW this
>> app has existed for a least 6 years. So this is not a new solution.
> 
> Copying a file from iOS to a Windows share is using the iOS SMB client.

No one is denying that.

"LAN drive SAMBA Server Client" from Webrox is an SMB SERVER (and 
client) app for macOS, and it allows you to connect to an iOS device 
FROM a Windows client.

> Copying a file from a Windows share to iOS is using the iOS SMB client.

Same rebuttal.

> 
> Do you even have any idea how to test using an iOS SMB server with Windows?
>   \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)
>   C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd

Fifth time in, you're still a nitwit.

> 
>> Why are you always claiming something is "impossible" that you yourself have
>> never tried?  Remember, you ALSO said it was "impossible to copy a photo from
>> Windows to iOS without using internet servers".
> 
> Heh heh heh,... I expressly said I don't doubt that SMB clients can copy a
> file from Windows to iOS and vice versa. The issue was *initiating* it.

No. That was your first goalpost shift.

> 
>> Do you STILL cling to that absurd claim? As we proved, it not only CAN be
>> done, but it is easy to do using built-in functionality in both Windows and
>> iOS.
> 
> First, tell me which device you are sitting at when you initiate that copy.

Using "LAN drive SAMBA Server Client", the Windows machine.

>   
>> Of course, after proving that claim to be wrong, you moved the goal posts by
>> stating "No, I meant that I want to do all file moves FROM Windows. But that
>> is impossible".
> 
> I operate my entire Android interactions over Windows, not on the phone
> itself. That's well known. Why would that have to be crippled on iOS?
> 
>> And here we are, proving that it IS possible by using an SMB Server app on
>> iOS. And yet you are still claiming it is "impossible", only because you say
>> it is "impossible".
> 
> heh heh heh... I wonder if you'll apologize as vehemently as you attack
> when you finally realize you mixed up what a server does versus a client.
>   \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)
>   C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd

Sixth time, and you're still dumb as a stump.

> 
> Note that Bonjour or mDNS can make the discovery hidden so expressly state
> the port so that we're sure of exactly which port is being used please.
> 
>> Now, you are AGAIN changing the "issue" into "What port can this app be using?
>>   It CAN'T be port 445 because I say so".
> 
> A non-rooted/jailbroken iOS/Android device can't bind to port 445 (AFAIK).
> You can pick any reason you like.

False.

> 
> Don't blame me for your inability to like what happens to be how it works.
> 
>> Which is just more deflection away from you being wrong twice about moving
>> files between Windows and iOS. But keep on digging that hole. In a couple more
>> days you will have been proven wrong 3 times.
> 
> heh heh heh... Let's see how many (if any) of you Apple trolls will
> publicly apologize for not understanding an SMB server versus the client.
>   \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)
>   C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd

Seven times, and you're dumber than dirt.

> 
>> What will your next deflection be?  "What I REALLY want is to pretend it is
>> 2005 and do all of this over a USB cable"?
> 
> Simply copying a file from iOS to Windows and back is NOT exercising an SMB
> server even though you "think" that's what it's doing. It's not.

When you use the second command below, you are connect a Window system 
to an SMB server, idiot.

>   \\192.168.1.24:445 (on iOS is using the iOS SMB client)
>   C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd
Seven times, and you're dumber than dirt.


> Since you bought a "Networking Expert" placard from Costco, let's test it
> out by having you run the simple "net use" command with your iOS server.
> 
>   C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.1.24:445\SharedFiles /user:tyrone mypasswd
>    If you are correct, then that command should report it succeeded. Right?
>    Show us a screenshot of: "The command completed successfully."
>    You would then be able to access the files and folders within
>    \\192.168.1.24\SharedFiles through File Explorer or by using the
>    assigned drive letter.
> 
> If I'm correct, then I predict you'll get a Connection Timeout or Refusal
> with some kind of typical Windows networking error message such as
> 
> a. "No network provider accepted the given network path."
> b. "The network path was not found."
> c. "The remote computer refused the network connection."
> d.  A timeout error might also occur as Windows waits for a response
> 
> In summary, when you run the "net use" command above, specifying the port
> you claim is being bound by iOS, it will either work - or it won't work.

While that is correct, you're an idiot for stating the utterly obvious.

> 
> You tell me since you insist it works.
> (I already assume it will fail based on my understanding of how iOS works.)
> 
> Prove me wrong if you're so sure non-jailbroken iOS binds to port 445.

Let's do it!

First, me launching and configuring "LAN drive SAMBA Server Client" on 
my iPhone 16:

<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Wd_XBpwaMan3ApHGVF7eQT88GMsA7FaS/view?usp=share_link>

Note the IP address AND hostname (which isn't "localhost" because I 
changed it)

Next, on my Windows 10 machine across my living room accessed via 
"Windows App" (formerly "Windows Remote Desktop"; a much more accurately 
descriptive name; typical Microsoft), I first browse the available 
devices in Network:

<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Wm5MN3jOwyWSPjKz1PrVPWKBp9XT0f2p/view?usp=share_link>


And then after opening "iPhone16", I see:

<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MS3PgV68Rl8YllgzE4qtWmr-rqJYX_Np/view?usp=share_link>

Golly, gee!

Who could have imagined that Arlen would have it all wrong...

...again...

...aside from EVERYONE...

...(except BGM of course)?

:-)

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#147871

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-04-17 01:16 +0000
Message-ID<bDCdnQ666PLLy531nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#147865
On Apr 16, 2025 at 6:00:00 PM EDT, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
>> On Apr 16, 2025 at 2:35:09 AM EDT, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
>>>> Frank Slootweg and I discussed this years ago and the problem with Android
>>>> running an SMB server is the ports are 139 (SMB over NetBIOS) and 445 (SMB
>>>> directly over TCP/IP) both of which are below 1024 and hence impossible on
>>>> a non-rooted Android. Since 139 is deprecated, let's just talk about 445.
>>>> 
>>>> It's my understanding non jailbroken iOS has the exact same restrictions.
>>>> Windows expects SMB to be on port 445.
>>> 
>>> As per usual your understanding of iOS is lacking. There is no such
>>> restriction.
>>> 
>>> I use "LAN Drive Samba server" and these are the server settings:
>>> https://i.postimg.cc/8CK3h4bT/IMG-6999.jpg
>>> 
>>> Works just fine.
>> 
>> That is one of the apps I looked at yesterday.
>> 
>> So I installed it today. The free version works fine, but is sort of slow.
> 
> Yeah, it's restricted to get you to buy the full version.

Yes, I get that.  BTW what is the cost?   I don't see it mentioned anywhere. 

>> was able to start the server on an iPad and create a user account with
>> read/write access. The folder it creates is a folder in the Files app.
>> 
>> BTW the "localhost" in the picture above is just the default name used for the
>> iPad/iPhone.  I changed that to "ipad1'.
>> 
>> I then did a standard "Map Network Drive" in Windows 11. I connected to
>> \\ipad1\LANDrive". I entered my name and password (that I setup on the iPad
>> SMB Server).  All very standard Windows networking stuff. So it clearly IS
>> using port 445.
> 
> But it can't be. lol.

I know.  Hilarious, sad and pathetic all at the same time. 

> I can guarantee you Arlen will now go quiet for a few days and completely
> ignore this topic. He'll start something else.

He NEVER goes quiet.  He is already back claiming that it is now SO VERY
important that we figure out what port this is using. 

But it clearly IS using 445 since (1) it shows that it is using 445 and (2)
the standard Windows "Map Network Drive" dialog works fine.

But it CAN'T be 445 because Arlen KNOWS it can't be. "His understanding" is
the way all things work. 

> Because he will *never accept he's wrong* from people he's labelled as
> being trolls.

Yup. Never.

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#147872

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2025-04-17 01:31 +0000
Message-ID<m6b3v4F39gmU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#147871
On 2025-04-17, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
> On Apr 16, 2025 at 6:00:00 PM EDT, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
>>> On Apr 16, 2025 at 2:35:09 AM EDT, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I use "LAN Drive Samba server" and these are the server settings:
>>>>
>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/8CK3h4bT/IMG-6999.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> Works just fine.
>>> 
>>> That is one of the apps I looked at yesterday.
>>> 
>>> So I installed it today. The free version works fine, but is sort of
>>> slow.
>> 
>> Yeah, it's restricted to get you to buy the full version.
>
> Yes, I get that.  BTW what is the cost?   I don't see it mentioned
> anywhere. 

It shows a banner at the top when you launch the app. On my device, the
price displayed was actually "$0.00". So I went ahead and purchased it
at $0 without issue and now have the full version. 🙂👍🏼

One of Arlen's lame trolling tactics is to add a "it must be free"
restriction when someone shows an app that does what he claims isn't
possible. He can't do that here. 🤣

>> But it can't be. lol.
>
> I know.  Hilarious, sad and pathetic all at the same time. 
>
>> I can guarantee you Arlen will now go quiet for a few days and
>> completely ignore this topic. He'll start something else.
>
> He NEVER goes quiet.  He is already back claiming that it is now SO
> VERY important that we figure out what port this is using. 
>
> But it clearly IS using 445 since (1) it shows that it is using 445
> and (2) the standard Windows "Map Network Drive" dialog works fine.

It's using port 445:

# nc -z rogersiphone 1-65535
Connection to rogersiphone port 445 [tcp/microsoft-ds] succeeded!
Connection to rogersiphone port 853 [tcp/domain-s] succeeded!

> But it CAN'T be 445 because Arlen KNOWS it can't be. "His understanding" is
> the way all things work. 
>
>> Because he will *never accept he's wrong* from people he's labelled as
>> being trolls.
>
> Yup. Never.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#147959

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-04-19 01:39 +0000
Message-ID<vtuurp$ps2$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#147872
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 14:27:40 +0000, Tyrone wrote :


> net use F: \\10.0.0.149\LANDrive /tcpport:445 /USER:Test Test-905
> The command completed successfully.

Hi Tyrone,
I just saw your post and I thank you for that knowledge & agree with you.
We learned a lot from those people who contributed valuable knowledge.

And learning about the operating systems is what these ngs are all about!

For the benefit of the Windows users, apparently Win11 is smarter'n Win10
in that Windows 11 'net use' can specify the port but not Windows 10.
 Windows 11:
 C:\> net use \\192.168.1.2\DCIM /tcpport:445 /USER:foo passwd
 Windows 10:
 C:\> net use \\192.168.1.2\DCIM /USER:foo passwd

Here's a summary of what we learned in this thread on how things work.

1. Anyone can sit at a Windows PC with an iOS device on the LAN to 
   copy files back & forth to iOS SMB shares using the Windows SMB
   client; but so far, they have to do so in the Windows command line.

2. With Android, anyone can mount Android as a Windows drive letter 
   to use the Windows GUI to copy files bidir while sitting at the PC. 

3. So the only thing we can't replicate (yet) with a person sitting 
   at the PC is using the Windows file system GUI to bidir with iOS.

4. For any platform, if people are willing to install LocalSend, they
   cat sit at any platform an initiate bidir file xfer with that GUI.

5. Android SMB servers exist, most require root, some don't require root, 
   but they do the ports in ways which are nonstandard to make it work.

6. iOS SMB servers exist, but they don't require jailbreaking since they
   use port 445 which is the standard way of working together with Windows.

Basically, we learned a ton which makes it easier to sit at the PC and copy
files bidirectionally between any device we have connected on the LAN.

The *one* thing I haven't figured out yet is to do sit at the PC to copy
files bidirectionally with iOS using the Windows file explorer GUI.

If anyone knows how to sit at the Windows PC to use the Windows file
explorer GUI to copy files bidirectionally with iOS over the LAN, please
let the rest of us know as that seems to be the only hurdle left to solve.

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#147972

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-04-19 22:38 +0000
Message-ID<F66dnbfLr_JRuJn1nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#147959
On Apr 18, 2025 at 9:39:06 PM EDT, "Marion" <marion@facts.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 14:27:40 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
> 
> 
>> net use F: \\10.0.0.149\LANDrive /tcpport:445 /USER:Test Test-905
>> The command completed successfully.
> 
> Hi Tyrone,
> I just saw your post and I thank you for that knowledge & agree with you.
> We learned a lot from those people who contributed valuable knowledge.
> 
> And learning about the operating systems is what these ngs are all about!
> 
> For the benefit of the Windows users, apparently Win11 is smarter'n Win10
> in that Windows 11 'net use' can specify the port but not Windows 10.
>  Windows 11:
>  C:\> net use \\192.168.1.2\DCIM /tcpport:445 /USER:foo passwd
>  Windows 10:
>  C:\> net use \\192.168.1.2\DCIM /USER:foo passwd

Again, your syntax is wrong.  You should be using:
net use D: \\192.168.1.2\DCIM /USER:foo passwd

Where D is whatever drive letter you want to use. That assigns the drive
letter, which then appears in Windows File Explorer. 

> Here's a summary of what we learned in this thread on how things work.
> 
> 1. Anyone can sit at a Windows PC with an iOS device on the LAN to
>    copy files back & forth to iOS SMB shares using the Windows SMB
>    client; but so far, they have to do so in the Windows command line.

The command line? I never used it. It shows as a mapped drive in Windows File
Explorer. In fact, you can connect to any SMB server without using the command
line.  Again, in Windows File Explorer. Or use the "net use" syntax above to
assign a drive letter. With no drive letter assigned, there is nothing to
mount in Windows File Explorer. 

> 2. With Android, anyone can mount Android as a Windows drive letter
>    to use the Windows GUI to copy files bidir while sitting at the PC.

Same with iOS. 

> 3. So the only thing we can't replicate (yet) with a person sitting
>    at the PC is using the Windows file system GUI to bidir with iOS.

Yes we can.


> 4. For any platform, if people are willing to install LocalSend, they
>    cat sit at any platform an initiate bidir file xfer with that GUI.

Dunno about that.  Never used it.  No need for it. 

> 5. Android SMB servers exist, most require root, some don't require root,
>    but they do the ports in ways which are nonstandard to make it work.

Yes, due to the port limitations of Android. 

> 6. iOS SMB servers exist, but they don't require jailbreaking since they
>    use port 445 which is the standard way of working together with Windows.

Yes. 

> Basically, we learned a ton which makes it easier to sit at the PC and copy
> files bidirectionally between any device we have connected on the LAN.
> 
> The *one* thing I haven't figured out yet is to do sit at the PC to copy
> files bidirectionally with iOS using the Windows file explorer GUI.

There is nothing to figure out.   It Just Works. 

> If anyone knows how to sit at the Windows PC to use the Windows file
> explorer GUI to copy files bidirectionally with iOS over the LAN, please
> let the rest of us know as that seems to be the only hurdle left to solve.

In all of my Windows networking experience, it has never occurred to me to use
the command line.

Again, net use D: \\192.168.1.2\DCIM /USER:foo passwd
will assign the network share as drive D. 

Also, you can rename the SMB computer, so you don't even need the IP address.
 I use this:

net use F: \\ipad1\LANdrive /user:Test Test-905

Ipad1 is the name I gave to my iOS SMB server. The default is localhost, which
you cannot use because "localhost" has a distinct use in Windows (and Linux
and Unix I believe). You change this name on the iOS SMB Server under
settings, Device Name. Then stop and restart the SMB server.

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#147974

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-04-19 16:53 -0700
Message-ID<vu1d1t$2hbsn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#147972
On 2025-04-19 15:38, Tyrone wrote:
> On Apr 18, 2025 at 9:39:06 PM EDT, "Marion" <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 14:27:40 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
>>
>>
>>> net use F: \\10.0.0.149\LANDrive /tcpport:445 /USER:Test Test-905
>>> The command completed successfully.
>>
>> Hi Tyrone,
>> I just saw your post and I thank you for that knowledge & agree with you.
>> We learned a lot from those people who contributed valuable knowledge.
>>
>> And learning about the operating systems is what these ngs are all about!
>>
>> For the benefit of the Windows users, apparently Win11 is smarter'n Win10
>> in that Windows 11 'net use' can specify the port but not Windows 10.
>>   Windows 11:
>>   C:\> net use \\192.168.1.2\DCIM /tcpport:445 /USER:foo passwd
>>   Windows 10:
>>   C:\> net use \\192.168.1.2\DCIM /USER:foo passwd
> 
> Again, your syntax is wrong.  You should be using:
> net use D: \\192.168.1.2\DCIM /USER:foo passwd
> 
> Where D is whatever drive letter you want to use. That assigns the drive
> letter, which then appears in Windows File Explorer.
> 
>> Here's a summary of what we learned in this thread on how things work.
>>
>> 1. Anyone can sit at a Windows PC with an iOS device on the LAN to
>>     copy files back & forth to iOS SMB shares using the Windows SMB
>>     client; but so far, they have to do so in the Windows command line.
> 
> The command line? I never used it. It shows as a mapped drive in Windows File
> Explorer. In fact, you can connect to any SMB server without using the command
> line.  Again, in Windows File Explorer. Or use the "net use" syntax above to
> assign a drive letter. With no drive letter assigned, there is nothing to
> mount in Windows File Explorer.
> 
>> 2. With Android, anyone can mount Android as a Windows drive letter
>>     to use the Windows GUI to copy files bidir while sitting at the PC.
> 
> Same with iOS.
> 
>> 3. So the only thing we can't replicate (yet) with a person sitting
>>     at the PC is using the Windows file system GUI to bidir with iOS.
> 
> Yes we can.
> 
> 
>> 4. For any platform, if people are willing to install LocalSend, they
>>     cat sit at any platform an initiate bidir file xfer with that GUI.
> 
> Dunno about that.  Never used it.  No need for it.
> 
>> 5. Android SMB servers exist, most require root, some don't require root,
>>     but they do the ports in ways which are nonstandard to make it work.
> 
> Yes, due to the port limitations of Android.
> 
>> 6. iOS SMB servers exist, but they don't require jailbreaking since they
>>     use port 445 which is the standard way of working together with Windows.
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> Basically, we learned a ton which makes it easier to sit at the PC and copy
>> files bidirectionally between any device we have connected on the LAN.
>>
>> The *one* thing I haven't figured out yet is to do sit at the PC to copy
>> files bidirectionally with iOS using the Windows file explorer GUI.
> 
> There is nothing to figure out.   It Just Works.
> 
>> If anyone knows how to sit at the Windows PC to use the Windows file
>> explorer GUI to copy files bidirectionally with iOS over the LAN, please
>> let the rest of us know as that seems to be the only hurdle left to solve.
> 
> In all of my Windows networking experience, it has never occurred to me to use
> the command line.
> 
> Again, net use D: \\192.168.1.2\DCIM /USER:foo passwd
> will assign the network share as drive D.
> 
> Also, you can rename the SMB computer, so you don't even need the IP address.
>   I use this:
> 
> net use F: \\ipad1\LANdrive /user:Test Test-905
> 
> Ipad1 is the name I gave to my iOS SMB server. The default is localhost, which
> you cannot use because "localhost" has a distinct use in Windows (and Linux
> and Unix I believe). You change this name on the iOS SMB Server under
> settings, Device Name. Then stop and restart the SMB server.

Arlen continuing to state "facts"...

...that ain't.

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#147973

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-04-19 22:54 +0000
Message-ID<2EadnaD3tKcOtJn1nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#147959
On Apr 18, 2025 at 9:39:06 PM EDT, "Marion" <marion@facts.com> wrote:

> Here's a summary of what we learned in this thread on how things work.


You forgot:

7. With an iPhone/Pad you can use the Files app to connect to a Windows SMB
server, to copy files back and forth between the iPad/iPhone and Windows.

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#147982

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2025-04-20 18:10 +0000
Message-ID<m6krk2Flo40U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#147973
On 2025-04-19, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
> On Apr 18, 2025 at 9:39:06 PM EDT, "Marion" <marion@facts.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's a summary of what we learned in this thread on how things work.
>
> You forgot:
>
> 7. With an iPhone/Pad you can use the Files app to connect to a Windows SMB
> server, to copy files back and forth between the iPad/iPhone and Windows.

Especially since he is on record saying that's not possible, and
insulting everyone who corrected him on it.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#148007

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-04-22 02:21 +0000
Message-ID<vu6ufu$11o8$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#147982
On 20 Apr 2025 18:10:10 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :


>> 7. With an iPhone/Pad you can use the Files app to connect to a Windows SMB
>> server, to copy files back and forth between the iPad/iPhone and Windows.
> 
> Especially since he is on record saying that's not possible, and
> insulting everyone who corrected him on it.

First, let's state I never once claimed to be a networking expert.

In fact, I asked the question because I'm expressly on record for NOT being
a networking expert - as I would have written the tutorial on how to sit at
the PC and copy files both ways between Android/iOS & Windows if I were.

:)

Let's also be clear that what was stated at the beginning of this thread,
isn't the same as what we all proved works, which is, after all, progress.

You'll never see me disagree with a proven fact (once proved, of course).
a. Only fools disagree with facts.
b. That's why they're fools after all.

Hence, let's state, that at the moment, we have each tested SMB protocol
servers, on normal Android & iOS, where the following can be safely said.

In my tests... 
1. On Windows 11, you can set the 'net use' port; but not on Windows 10.
2. Non-rooted Android SMB server apps can not bind to privileged ports.
3. Yet, non-jailbroken iOS SMB server apps can bind to privileged ports.
4. The result, in my iOS tests, is a drive letter, on the PC command line.
5. But in my tests, the drive letter did not show up in the Windows GUI.

Since I'm NOT a networking expert, I'm still a bit confused why I could CD
to a drive letter on Windows & copy files using the Windows command line.

Yet I couldn't see that drive letter in the Windows 10 file explorer GUI.

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#147881

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-04-17 07:49 +0000
Message-ID<vtqbph$hvl$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#147871
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 01:16:06 +0000, Tyrone wrote :


> But it clearly IS using 445 since (1) it shows that it is using 445 and (2)
> the standard Windows "Map Network Drive" dialog works fine.

I use "Map Network Drive" all day, every day, with Android/Windows Tyrone.
My entire Android phone is mounted as a Windows drive letter using it.
  <https://i.postimg.cc/BvJdKWzt/webdav06.jpg> Both sdcards mounted

The fact I can "Map Network Drive" doesn't prove anything about the port.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/k5F8sLbc/filesys01.jpg> Starting WebDAV servers
 <https://i.postimg.cc/RZtw6WC2/filesys02.jpg> Mount Android system filesys
 <https://i.postimg.cc/Zngy0SGT/filesys03.jpg> Look at /etc/resolv.conf

Since you map network drive also, what is it you claim it's telling us
about the port that was used by the server?

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#147899

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-04-17 13:48 +0000
Message-ID<-8mcnQseu-tam5z1nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#147881
On Apr 17, 2025 at 3:49:06 AM EDT, "Marion" <marion@facts.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 01:16:06 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
> 
> 
>> But it clearly IS using 445 since (1) it shows that it is using 445 and (2)
>> the standard Windows "Map Network Drive" dialog works fine.
> 
> I use "Map Network Drive" all day, every day, with Android/Windows Tyrone.
> My entire Android phone is mounted as a Windows drive letter using it.
>   <https://i.postimg.cc/BvJdKWzt/webdav06.jpg> Both sdcards mounted
> 
> The fact I can "Map Network Drive" doesn't prove anything about the port.
>  <https://i.postimg.cc/k5F8sLbc/filesys01.jpg> Starting WebDAV servers
>  <https://i.postimg.cc/RZtw6WC2/filesys02.jpg> Mount Android system filesys
>  <https://i.postimg.cc/Zngy0SGT/filesys03.jpg> Look at /etc/resolv.conf
> 
> Since you map network drive also, what is it you claim it's telling us
> about the port that was used by the server?

Jolly Roger just answered that.  Try again.

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#147900

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-04-17 14:27 +0000
Message-ID<3rKdnfVa27BBkpz1nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#147881
On Apr 17, 2025 at 3:49:06 AM EDT, "Marion" <marion@facts.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 01:16:06 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
> 
> 
>> But it clearly IS using 445 since (1) it shows that it is using 445 and (2)
>> the standard Windows "Map Network Drive" dialog works fine.
> 
> I use "Map Network Drive" all day, every day, with Android/Windows Tyrone.
> My entire Android phone is mounted as a Windows drive letter using it.
>   <https://i.postimg.cc/BvJdKWzt/webdav06.jpg> Both sdcards mounted
> 
> The fact I can "Map Network Drive" doesn't prove anything about the port.
>  <https://i.postimg.cc/k5F8sLbc/filesys01.jpg> Starting WebDAV servers
>  <https://i.postimg.cc/RZtw6WC2/filesys02.jpg> Mount Android system filesys
>  <https://i.postimg.cc/Zngy0SGT/filesys03.jpg> Look at /etc/resolv.conf
> 
> Since you map network drive also, what is it you claim it's telling us
> about the port that was used by the server?

I know because this works in Windows Powershell:

net use F: \\10.0.0.149\LANDrive /tcpport:445 /USER:Test Test-905
The command completed successfully.

AGAIN, stop arguing with zero knowledge. DL the app and try it.  BTW you
showing how you map drives using port 8080 on Android does not prove that port
445 on iOS does not work. 

Also, this app is free.

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#147908

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2025-04-17 17:57 +0000
Message-ID<vtrmep.dds.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#147849
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
[...]

[About "LAN Drive Samba server" on iOS:]

> That is one of the apps I looked at yesterday.
> 
> So I installed it today. The free version works fine, but is sort of slow.  I
> was able to start the server on an iPad and create a user account with
> read/write access. The folder it creates is a folder in the Files app. 
> 
> BTW the "localhost" in the picture above is just the default name used for the
> iPad/iPhone.  I changed that to "ipad1'.  
> 
> I then did a standard "Map Network Drive" in Windows 11. I connected to
> \\ipad1\LANDrive". I entered my name and password (that I setup on the iPad
> SMB Server).  All very standard Windows networking stuff. So it clearly IS
> using port 445. 
> 
> I then transferred a random PDF file from Windows to the iPad. Worked fine. 
> LAN Drive Samba Server also gives you access to DCIM on the iPad. Yes, you can
> copy photos from the iPad to Windows.  Note that the iPad appears as a mapped
> drive on Windows. I used drive letter X. 
> 
> I then moved a file in the Files app on the iPad into the LANDrive folder.  
> On Windows 11, I was able to see and copy this file over to Windows.  Just
> like any network drive.
> 
> The DCIM access appears to be read only. At least, in 30 minutes of testing
> this app, I don't see a way to get write access. But you DO have access to it.
> 
> So, the Apple-hating trolls can lose more sleep. Yet ANOTHER thing that they
> were absolutely SURE could not be done (because "iOS is a toy") CAN BE DONE. 
>  Direct transfers between iOS and Android is possible. You can access the DCIM
> folder. You CAN map an iPad/iPhone as a drive letter on Windows, so you can
> move files back and forth FROM Windows instead of FROM iOS.  Certainly such
> apps are available for Android as well.

  No, such apps (SMB servers which can use port 445) are *not* available
on Android!
 
  That's why 'Arlen' can't handle your facts, because in this case, iOS
can do something which (non-rooted) Android can not.

  Android servers (of any type) can not use ports below 1024.

> As I said yesterday, all that is needed is an SMB Server.

  Which also closes another open question (control a Windows<->iOS copy
*from* Windows).

  What was the thing with birds and a stone again!? :-)

-- 
Frank Slootweg, Android (and Windows) *user*.

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#147909

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-04-17 18:03 +0000
Message-ID<u2WdnVPdyarF35z1nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#147908
On Apr 17, 2025 at 1:57:20 PM EDT, "Frank Slootweg" <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:

> Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
> [...]
> 
> [About "LAN Drive Samba server" on iOS:]
> 
>> That is one of the apps I looked at yesterday.
>> 
>> So I installed it today. The free version works fine, but is sort of slow.  I
>> was able to start the server on an iPad and create a user account with
>> read/write access. The folder it creates is a folder in the Files app.
>> 
>> BTW the "localhost" in the picture above is just the default name used for the
>> iPad/iPhone.  I changed that to "ipad1'.
>> 
>> I then did a standard "Map Network Drive" in Windows 11. I connected to
>> \\ipad1\LANDrive". I entered my name and password (that I setup on the iPad
>> SMB Server).  All very standard Windows networking stuff. So it clearly IS
>> using port 445.
>> 
>> I then transferred a random PDF file from Windows to the iPad. Worked fine.
>> LAN Drive Samba Server also gives you access to DCIM on the iPad. Yes, you can
>> copy photos from the iPad to Windows.  Note that the iPad appears as a mapped
>> drive on Windows. I used drive letter X.
>> 
>> I then moved a file in the Files app on the iPad into the LANDrive folder.
>> On Windows 11, I was able to see and copy this file over to Windows.  Just
>> like any network drive.
>> 
>> The DCIM access appears to be read only. At least, in 30 minutes of testing
>> this app, I don't see a way to get write access. But you DO have access to it.
>> 
>> So, the Apple-hating trolls can lose more sleep. Yet ANOTHER thing that they
>> were absolutely SURE could not be done (because "iOS is a toy") CAN BE DONE.
>>  Direct transfers between iOS and Android is possible. You can access the DCIM
>> folder. You CAN map an iPad/iPhone as a drive letter on Windows, so you can
>> move files back and forth FROM Windows instead of FROM iOS.  Certainly such
>> apps are available for Android as well.
> 
>   No, such apps (SMB servers which can use port 445) are *not* available
> on Android!
> 
>   That's why 'Arlen' can't handle your facts, because in this case, iOS
> can do something which (non-rooted) Android can not.
> 
>   Android servers (of any type) can not use ports below 1024.
> 
>> As I said yesterday, all that is needed is an SMB Server.
> 
>   Which also closes another open question (control a Windows<->iOS copy
> *from* Windows).
> 
>   What was the thing with birds and a stone again!? :-)

Thank you SO much for the verification.  Arlen had dropped your name somewhere
in this tangled mess of threads as "proof" that iOS could not do this.  All
the while claiming that I was making all of this up.  He claimed "Imaginary
Functionality".

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#147938

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-04-18 04:25 +0000
Message-ID<vtsk72$1c63$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#147909
On 17 Apr 2025 17:57:20 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote :


>   No, such apps (SMB servers which can use port 445) are *not* available
> on Android!
>  
>   That's why 'Arlen' can't handle your facts, because in this case, iOS
> can do something which (non-rooted) Android can not.
> 
>   Android servers (of any type) can not use ports below 1024.

Hi Frank,

The only thing that matters to me is that my beliefs are based on facts.

You peg me wrong as I can handle the truth - which is all that matters.
In fact, I *love* that finally we can sit at Windows and control iOS.

Yes, you are a truly despicable unprepossessing human being, almost devoid
of personable traits, but, you know some things & you've taught me them.

For that, I respect your knowledge, in that it was you who first taught me
about unrooted Android apps not being able to bind to ports below 1024. 

For that knowledge, I thank you.

>> As I said yesterday, all that is needed is an SMB Server.
> 
>   Which also closes another open question (control a Windows<->iOS copy
> *from* Windows).

You probably saw my extensive tests which proved beyond any doubt in my
mind, although I still could be wrong, that iOS LAN drive binds to 445.

I think that's FANTASTIC, and I issued multiple apologies on the Apple
newsgroup for doubting that iOS does do this BETTER'n Android does it.

You don't understand me, mainly due to your idiotic belief systems, but
nonetheless, what matters to me only is to know what the facts are.

And the facts clearly are, with respect to SMB, so far anyway (as things
can change with more knowledge) that Lan drive does bind to port 445.

The only thing that matters to me is that my beliefs are based on facts.
So far, these two facts appear to be backed up in my tests with Windows.

a. iOS does allow Lan drive to bind to port 445
b. This means I can copy bidirectionally while sitting at Windows
c. However, I can't "mount" the drive letter like I do with WebDav

If someone can explain why "net use Z:" mounts Android as a Windows drive
letter when I use a WebDav server on Android, but the same command doesn't
mount Android as a drive letter when I use SMB, I'd love to know why.

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#147952

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-04-18 10:20 -0700
Message-ID<vtu1kl$3fcb0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#147938
On 2025-04-17 21:25, Marion wrote:
> On 17 Apr 2025 17:57:20 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote :
> 
> 
>>    No, such apps (SMB servers which can use port 445) are *not* available
>> on Android!
>>   
>>    That's why 'Arlen' can't handle your facts, because in this case, iOS
>> can do something which (non-rooted) Android can not.
>>
>>    Android servers (of any type) can not use ports below 1024.
> 
> Hi Frank,
> 
> The only thing that matters to me is that my beliefs are based on facts.

Your belief that iOS couldn't allow an app to use port 445 was 
definitely NOT based on fact.

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#147955

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-04-18 18:35 +0000
Message-ID<bYqdnVTWW6TpBp_1nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#147938
On Apr 18, 2025 at 12:25:07 AM EDT, "Marion" <marion@facts.com> wrote:

> If someone can explain why "net use Z:" mounts Android as a Windows drive
> letter when I use a WebDav server on Android, but the same command doesn't
> mount Android as a drive letter when I use SMB, I'd love to know why.

Because there is no SMB (port 445) server running on Android. Android does not
allow anyone to use port 445 for servers.  iOS does. WebDav is using port
8080.  That's why it works on Android.

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#147957

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-04-18 16:16 -0700
Message-ID<vtumgi$23lt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#147955
On 2025-04-18 11:35, Tyrone wrote:
> On Apr 18, 2025 at 12:25:07 AM EDT, "Marion" <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> 
>> If someone can explain why "net use Z:" mounts Android as a Windows drive
>> letter when I use a WebDav server on Android, but the same command doesn't
>> mount Android as a drive letter when I use SMB, I'd love to know why.
> 
> Because there is no SMB (port 445) server running on Android. Android does not
> allow anyone to use port 445 for servers.  iOS does. WebDav is using port
> 8080.  That's why it works on Android.

Now, now...

Arlen's going to come back and tell you that it is a "fact" that the 
http protocol uses port 80!

😜

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#147958

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-04-19 01:21 +0000
Message-ID<vtutr5$nd$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#147955
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 18:35:32 +0000, Tyrone wrote :


>> If someone can explain why "net use Z:" mounts Android as a Windows drive
>> letter when I use a WebDav server on Android, but the same command doesn't
>> mount Android as a drive letter when I use SMB, I'd love to know why.
> 
> Because there is no SMB (port 445) server running on Android. Android does not
> allow anyone to use port 445 for servers.  iOS does. WebDav is using port
> 8080.  That's why it works on Android.

Hi Tyrone,

Thanks for helping out on this thread, where you and Crhis were the only
people, other than me, who did any work to solve teh question being asked.

As a result of our efforts, the rest of the group has learned a ton.
Which is exactly how Uenet is supposed to work as a team.

So I thank you very much for all your effort & patience in testing SMB.

I'm not a network expert by any stretch of the imagination, so I will defer
to your greater knowledge level, but just to add value to this
conversation, I had long ago compiled a listing of the available free SMB
servers on Android with information from Frank Slootweg and others, oh,
maybe five years ago.

Here is that listing. 
But I do not know how many of these are still developed.

Free Android SMB Servers:

SimbaDroid (Open Source)
https://github.com/buttercookie42/SimbaDroid
SMB Version(s): SMBv1, SMBv2, SMBv3
Note: This app does not require root.
Notes: No user authentication; intended for trusted networks.
Source:
https://xdaforums.com/t/app-4-0-3-no-root-lan-drive-samba-filesharing-server-smb1-and-smb2.3790945/page-12#post-90056889

Samba Server for Android (deprecated)
SMB Version(s): SMBv1, SMBv2 (no SMBv3 support)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.j4velin.samba
Note: Root not required.

Droid NAS
SMB Version(s): SMBv1 only
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ragingdev.droidnas
Note: This app likely requires root.

SMB Server for Android (by AL-SULTAN)
Free and Pro versions available
SMB Version(s): SMBv3
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=alsultan.smbserver
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=alsultan.smbserver.pro
Note: This app uses a non-standard port (4445 instead of 445).

SambaDroid (deprecated)
SMB Version(s): SMBv1 only
https://github.com/SambaDroid
Note: Currently only available as source, no GitHub APK anymore.

Samba Server Pro by Ice Cold Apps
SMB Version(s): SMBv1, SMBv2
Note: Likely requires root.
Availability: Available on APK sites.

File Server (by The Olive Tree) (deprecated)
SMB Version(s): SMBv2 only (no SMBv3 support)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.olive.file.server
Note: This app likely requires root.

LAN drive - SAMBA Server by Webrox
https://download.cnet.com/lan-drive-samba-server/3000-20432_4-77826371.html
SMB Version(s): SMBv1 and SMBv2
Note: Requires root access.
Additional Information:

In addition, it's worth noting that Android itself has had a built-in SMB
client (as of Android 8.0 Oreo, supporting SMBv2 and SMBv3). This is
typically accessible through file explorer apps and doesn't turn your
Android device into a server but allows it to connect to other SMB servers
as a client.

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