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  Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs?  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-15 11:17 -0400
    Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-04-15 17:29 +0200
      Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-15 11:38 -0400
        Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-04-16 08:28 +0200
    Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-15 11:34 -0400
      Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-15 16:06 +0000
        Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-04-15 11:42 -0600
          Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-16 10:58 +0000
            Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-16 18:52 +0200
              Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-16 22:25 +0000
                Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-17 09:03 +0200
                  Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-17 08:29 +0100
                    Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-17 12:44 +0200
                  Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-17 20:27 -0400
                    Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-18 07:05 +0100
                    Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-18 13:29 +0200
                      Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-18 23:49 -0400
                        Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-19 14:41 +0200
                    Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-04-19 17:39 +0200
                      Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-19 21:02 +0200
                        Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-19 19:43 +0000
                          Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-19 22:08 +0200
                        Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-04-23 12:46 +0200
                          [OT] Taps [Was: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-23 13:05 +0200
                      Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-25 19:47 -0400
                      Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-26 11:19 +0000
                        [OT] Taps [Was: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-26 14:23 +0200
                        Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-04-26 13:23 +0100
            Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-16 15:56 -0400
              Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-16 22:34 +0000
      Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-04-16 08:31 +0200
        Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-16 16:06 -0400
          Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-04-17 11:41 +0200
            Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-17 11:01 +0100
      Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-16 07:46 +0100
        Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-04-16 12:51 +0200
        Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-16 14:08 +0000
          Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-16 15:22 +0100
        Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-16 16:11 -0400
      Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-04-18 15:01 +0100
        Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-18 23:50 -0400
      Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-04-19 17:41 +0200
        Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-20 11:26 -0400
    Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-15 17:24 +0100
    Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs?  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-16 16:17 -0400
      Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-04-17 11:46 +0200
        Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-17 10:56 +0100
      Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs?  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-17 20:23 -0400
    Re: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-04-18 15:07 +0100

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#153547

Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2026-04-19 17:39, Arno Welzel wrote:
> > micky, 2026-04-18 02:27:
> > 
> >> In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 09:03:31 +0200, "Carlos
> >> E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> > [...]
> >>> One time I was looking for red polish and blue polish in Amazon. Found
> >>> them, but not cheap, so I desisted, also because it was not durable. I
> >>> wanted to paint a kitchen tap cold and hot water sides, which have
> >>> reversed marks (Germans do it in reverse than Spaniards, and the tap
> >>> (Grohe) is German).
> >>>
> >> So which of you has hot on the left and cold on the right.
> > 
> > In our place in Germany it is exactly this way - hot on the left and
> > cold on the right. Also see this product page - the blue dot is on the
> > right, and the red one on the left:
> > 
> > <https://www.saniweb.de/grohe-essence-new-s-grosse-1-loch-waschtischarmatur-ohne-ablaufgarnitur-chrom-34294001.html>
> > 
> 
> Look at this one. Same brand.
> 
> <https://www.grohe.com/es-ES/producto/essence-essence-monomando-de-fregadero-1-2-high-gold-30270GN0>
> 
> Red is on the right.

  Actually, red is towards the *back* and blue is towards the front. The
handle is on the side of the tap, not in front as in the other example.

  We personally do not have such a tap, but some family has one and I
think the orientation is a safety aspect, i.e. pushing *away* from you
is red/hot. (Google seems to agree with me on this.) I think
'joystick'-like speed controls work the same way, i.e. away is
'dangerous'.

  This another Grohe example in our country (The Netherlands). See the
fourth picture, which is very clear: push away for hot/red.

<https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/grohe-eurosmart-cosmopolitan-keukenkraan-hoge-draaibare-c-uitloop-chroom-32843002/9200000099683497/>

  N.B. bol.com is the Dutch 'Amazon' avant la lettre.

> The plumber asked me if I wanted to respect the colours, or the 
> tradition. I chose the tradition, I was not going to have the kitchen 
> reversed compared to the bathroom.
> 
> The plumber told us that Grohe puts the hot water reversed.

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#153548

On 2026-04-19 21:43, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2026-04-19 17:39, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> micky, 2026-04-18 02:27:
>>>
>>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 09:03:31 +0200, "Carlos
>>>> E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> One time I was looking for red polish and blue polish in Amazon. Found
>>>>> them, but not cheap, so I desisted, also because it was not durable. I
>>>>> wanted to paint a kitchen tap cold and hot water sides, which have
>>>>> reversed marks (Germans do it in reverse than Spaniards, and the tap
>>>>> (Grohe) is German).
>>>>>
>>>> So which of you has hot on the left and cold on the right.
>>>
>>> In our place in Germany it is exactly this way - hot on the left and
>>> cold on the right. Also see this product page - the blue dot is on the
>>> right, and the red one on the left:
>>>
>>> <https://www.saniweb.de/grohe-essence-new-s-grosse-1-loch-waschtischarmatur-ohne-ablaufgarnitur-chrom-34294001.html>
>>>
>>
>> Look at this one. Same brand.
>>
>> <https://www.grohe.com/es-ES/producto/essence-essence-monomando-de-fregadero-1-2-high-gold-30270GN0>
>>
>> Red is on the right.
> 
>    Actually, red is towards the *back* and blue is towards the front. The
> handle is on the side of the tap, not in front as in the other example.

Yes.

Nevertheless, the plumber, two tenants, and myself interpret that as 
cold=left.

> 
>    We personally do not have such a tap, but some family has one and I
> think the orientation is a safety aspect, i.e. pushing *away* from you
> is red/hot. (Google seems to agree with me on this.) I think
> 'joystick'-like speed controls work the same way, i.e. away is
> 'dangerous'.

Buff.

> 
>    This another Grohe example in our country (The Netherlands). See the
> fourth picture, which is very clear: push away for hot/red.
> 
> <https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/grohe-eurosmart-cosmopolitan-keukenkraan-hoge-draaibare-c-uitloop-chroom-32843002/9200000099683497/>

Well, here we read it as "red=right". Reverse compared to what it 
should. Stupid tap. So the plumber reverses the connections, and we 
paint over the colours.

> 
>    N.B. bol.com is the Dutch 'Amazon' avant la lettre.
> 
>> The plumber asked me if I wanted to respect the colours, or the
>> tradition. I chose the tradition, I was not going to have the kitchen
>> reversed compared to the bathroom.
>>
>> The plumber told us that Grohe puts the hot water reversed.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#153588

Carlos E.R., 2026-04-19 21:02:

> On 2026-04-19 17:39, Arno Welzel wrote:
>> micky, 2026-04-18 02:27:
>>
>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 09:03:31 +0200, "Carlos
>>> E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> One time I was looking for red polish and blue polish in Amazon. Found
>>>> them, but not cheap, so I desisted, also because it was not durable. I
>>>> wanted to paint a kitchen tap cold and hot water sides, which have
>>>> reversed marks (Germans do it in reverse than Spaniards, and the tap
>>>> (Grohe) is German).
>>>>
>>> So which of you has hot on the left and cold on the right.
>>
>> In our place in Germany it is exactly this way - hot on the left and
>> cold on the right. Also see this product page - the blue dot is on the
>> right, and the red one on the left:
>>
>> <https://www.saniweb.de/grohe-essence-new-s-grosse-1-loch-waschtischarmatur-ohne-ablaufgarnitur-chrom-34294001.html>
>>
> 
> Look at this one. Same brand.
> 
> <https://www.grohe.com/es-ES/producto/essence-essence-monomando-de-fregadero-1-2-high-gold-30270GN0>

But a different kind of tap. Look here - red on the left:

<https://www.grohe.com/es-ES/producto/costa-l-costa-l-bateria-de-fregadero-mural-1-2-high-chrome-31191001>

And here as well:

<https://www.grohe.com/es-ES/producto/bauedge-monomando-de-fregadero-1-2-medium-chrome-31693000>

> Red is on the right.

If the lever would be moved to sit on top of a base and not on the side,
red would be on the left not the right. See the other examples from Spain.

And in fact I have a similar thing like in the kitchen - with the lever
on the right side, where red is to the back and blue to the front.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#153590 — [OT] Taps [Was: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs?]

On 2026-04-23 12:46, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Carlos E.R., 2026-04-19 21:02:
>> On 2026-04-19 17:39, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> micky, 2026-04-18 02:27:
>>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 09:03:31 +0200, "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> One time I was looking for red polish and blue polish in Amazon. Found
>>>>> them, but not cheap, so I desisted, also because it was not durable. I
>>>>> wanted to paint a kitchen tap cold and hot water sides, which have
>>>>> reversed marks (Germans do it in reverse than Spaniards, and the tap
>>>>> (Grohe) is German).
>>>>>
>>>> So which of you has hot on the left and cold on the right.
>>>
>>> In our place in Germany it is exactly this way - hot on the left and
>>> cold on the right. Also see this product page - the blue dot is on the
>>> right, and the red one on the left:
>>>
>>> <https://www.saniweb.de/grohe-essence-new-s-grosse-1-loch-waschtischarmatur-ohne-ablaufgarnitur-chrom-34294001.html>
>>>
>>
>> Look at this one. Same brand.
>>
>> <https://www.grohe.com/es-ES/producto/essence-essence-monomando-de-fregadero-1-2-high-gold-30270GN0>
> 
> But a different kind of tap. Look here - red on the left:
> 
> <https://www.grohe.com/es-ES/producto/costa-l-costa-l-bateria-de-fregadero-mural-1-2-high-chrome-31191001>
> 
> And here as well:
> 
> <https://www.grohe.com/es-ES/producto/bauedge-monomando-de-fregadero-1-2-medium-chrome-31693000>
> 
>> Red is on the right.
> 
> If the lever would be moved to sit on top of a base and not on the side,
> red would be on the left not the right. See the other examples from Spain.
> 
> And in fact I have a similar thing like in the kitchen - with the lever
> on the right side, where red is to the back and blue to the front.
> 
> 


They say that red is forward, away from you, and blue is towards you. I 
don't see it that way, I see it left-blue, thus reversed. The plumber, 
who is supposed to be an expert witness, saw blue-left. Three people 
more (one was me), the same.

In fact, these fixtures can be rotated in the sink hole before 
tightening the nut beneath, so that the handle faces right, front or 
left. In fact, once I tried all three positions to find out which was 
the most confortable in use. Front is uncomfortable, you risk wetting 
your arm. Left is good for left handed people. But in all cases I see 
the red dot on the right.

Maybe psychologists will explain that there are two types of people 
depending on how we read those dots in kitchen taps. :-)

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#153670

In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 19 Apr 2026 17:39:36 +0200, Arno Welzel
<usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:

>micky, 2026-04-18 02:27:
>
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 09:03:31 +0200, "Carlos
>> E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>[...]
>>> One time I was looking for red polish and blue polish in Amazon. Found 
>>> them, but not cheap, so I desisted, also because it was not durable. I 
>>> wanted to paint a kitchen tap cold and hot water sides, which have 
>>> reversed marks (Germans do it in reverse than Spaniards, and the tap 
>>> (Grohe) is German).
>>>
>> So which of you has hot on the left and cold on the right.  
>
>In our place in Germany it is exactly this way - hot on the left and
>cold on the right. Also see this product page - the blue dot is on the
>right, and the red one on the left:
>
><https://www.saniweb.de/grohe-essence-new-s-grosse-1-loch-waschtischarmatur-ohne-ablaufgarnitur-chrom-34294001.html>

I have no idea how to use the one-handle faucets.  I think to get hot
you push the handle to the north pole and for south you push it to the
south pole, but what happens if you're facing east instead of west?
Usually I'm done washing before the hot water shows up. 

>Also this setup is quite common if there are still separate taps in use:
>
><https://toplicht.imgbolt.de/media/79/bf/cd/1730922408/4652500.jpg?ts=1769882852>

That style in particular, can't you just reverse it if you don't like
the way it is? 
>
>So I believe this is quite common in Germany.

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#153673

Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
> micky, 2026-04-18 02:27:
> 
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 09:03:31 +0200, "Carlos
>> E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
>>> One time I was looking for red polish and blue polish in Amazon. Found 
>>> them, but not cheap, so I desisted, also because it was not durable. I 
>>> wanted to paint a kitchen tap cold and hot water sides, which have 
>>> reversed marks (Germans do it in reverse than Spaniards, and the tap 
>>> (Grohe) is German).
>>> 
>> So which of you has hot on the left and cold on the right.  
> 
> In our place in Germany it is exactly this way - hot on the left and
> cold on the right. 

Same in the UK. In many houses people still like separate taps - I don't
know why either - and the hot one is usually on the left. 

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#153676 — [OT] Taps [Was: Do usb-C jacks work with prior plugs?]

On 2026-04-26 13:19, Chris wrote:
> Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
>> micky, 2026-04-18 02:27:
>>
>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 09:03:31 +0200, "Carlos
>>> E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> One time I was looking for red polish and blue polish in Amazon. Found
>>>> them, but not cheap, so I desisted, also because it was not durable. I
>>>> wanted to paint a kitchen tap cold and hot water sides, which have
>>>> reversed marks (Germans do it in reverse than Spaniards, and the tap
>>>> (Grohe) is German).
>>>>
>>> So which of you has hot on the left and cold on the right.
>>
>> In our place in Germany it is exactly this way - hot on the left and
>> cold on the right.
> 
> Same in the UK. In many houses people still like separate taps - I don't
> know why either - and the hot one is usually on the left.

They are separate taps, but of the modern ceramic type. Just a ¼ of a 
turn to open them fully.

My bath/shower still has old style taps with rubber tap shoes. I prefer 
them, I get a long gradation of the mixture.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#153677

Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> writes:

> Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
>> micky, 2026-04-18 02:27:
>> 
>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 17 Apr 2026 09:03:31 +0200, "Carlos
>>> E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> [...]  >> One time I was looking for red polish and blue polish in
>>Amazon. Found >> them, but not cheap, so I desisted, also because it
>>was not durable. I >> wanted to paint a kitchen tap cold and hot water
>>sides, which have >> reversed marks (Germans do it in reverse than
>>Spaniards, and the tap >> (Grohe) is German).
>>>> 
>>> So which of you has hot on the left and cold on the right.
>> 
>> In our place in Germany it is exactly this way - hot on the left and
>> cold on the right.
>
> Same in the UK. In many houses people still like separate taps - I
> don't know why either - and the hot one is usually on the left.

I am in the UK. In the kitchen cold is on the left. But on the bath,
cold is on the right. Mixer taps aren't so good for changing washers in
my experience.

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#153466

In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 16 Apr 2026 10:58:01 -0000 (UTC), AJL
<noemail@none.com> wrote:

>On 4/15/26 10:42 AM, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>AJL wrote:
>>> My low tech solution
>>>  was to paint a white dot with fingernail polish on the matching side of
>>>  each to quickly get it right. Avoided a lot of false tries and squinting...
>>
>>Heh heh heh... that's completely different from my low-tech solution, 'cuz
>>I used whiteout instead of fingernail polish to accomplish the same goal!
>>
>>:)
>>
>>Before that, it took three tries, on average, to figure out which way. :)
>
>Fingernail polish does have one advantage over whiteout though. It comes in
> various colors so that you could use a tablet's matching color to cover
> it's camera lenses and plug its mike hole. Course that would likely only be
> done by someone with severe paranoia. Me? Nah...

I've used fingernail polish for some similar things, and lipstick where
I want to transfer color, to show what touches. 

And you can buy them both at the dollar store. 

(My whiteout dried up long ago.) 

But no, I didn't mean a bump on the cable I meant something on the plug
itself that made it wider with another section, but yet they call them
both Micro-B.   I'll try to post a picture later. 

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#153474

On 4/16/26 12:56 PM, micky wrote:
>In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 16 Apr 2026 10:58:01 -0000 (UTC), AJL
><noemail@none.com> wrote:
>
>>On 4/15/26 10:42 AM, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>>AJL wrote:
>>>> My low tech solution
>>>>  was to paint a white dot with fingernail polish on the matching side of
>>>>  each to quickly get it right. Avoided a lot of false tries and squinting...
>>>
>>>Heh heh heh... that's completely different from my low-tech solution, 'cuz
>>>I used whiteout instead of fingernail polish to accomplish the same goal!
>>>
>>>:)
>>>
>>>Before that, it took three tries, on average, to figure out which way. :)
>>
>>Fingernail polish does have one advantage over whiteout though. It comes in
>> various colors so that you could use a tablet's matching color to cover
>> it's camera lenses and plug its mike hole. Course that would likely only be
>> done by someone with severe paranoia. Me? Nah...



>I've used fingernail polish for some similar things, and lipstick where
>I want to transfer color, to show what touches. 



>And you can buy them both at the dollar store.

Yup. That's where I got mine. Back when it was an actual 'dollar' store.
 Nowadays my Dollar Store sells stuff for up to 5 dollars. Inflation
 sucks...

 

>(My whiteout dried up long ago.) 
>
>But no, I didn't mean a bump on the cable I meant something on the plug
>itself that made it wider with another section, but yet they call them
>both Micro-B.   I'll try to post a picture later. 

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#153450

micky, 2026-04-15 17:34:

> In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 15 Apr 2026 11:17:37 -0400, micky
> <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
[...]
>>  _____
>> /     \
>> |_____|             )
> 
> Definitely Micro-B
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MicroB_USB_Plug.jpg
> 
> but how can there be two kinds of Micro?  Why isn't there a different
> name for the one with a side-car? 

Except for USB-C there is alwas "A" and "B". The "A" side is the host
and the "B" side is for the client:

<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/USB_2.0_connectors.svg/1920px-USB_2.0_connectors.svg.png>

However usually you have cables using USB-A for the host side and
MiniUSB-B or MicroUSB-B for the client side.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#153467

In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 16 Apr 2026 08:31:53 +0200, Arno Welzel
<usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:

>micky, 2026-04-15 17:34:
>
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 15 Apr 2026 11:17:37 -0400, micky
>> <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>[...]
>>>  _____
>>> /     \
>>> |_____|             )
>> 
>> Definitely Micro-B
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MicroB_USB_Plug.jpg
>> 
>> but how can there be two kinds of Micro?  Why isn't there a different
>> name for the one with a side-car? 
>
>Except for USB-C there is alwas "A" and "B". The "A" side is the host
>and the "B" side is for the client:

That makes sense, 

><https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/USB_2.0_connectors.svg/1920px-USB_2.0_connectors.svg.png>

But this drawing doesn't show the other type of micro-B.

This one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USB_3.0_Micro-B_receptacle.svg
Here they have another name, .... superspeed, but the other picture I
saw showed both of them with the same name. 

I've never heard superspeed used.   Have any of you?

>However usually you have cables using USB-A for the host side and
>MiniUSB-B or MicroUSB-B for the client side.

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#153480

micky, 2026-04-16 22:06:

> In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 16 Apr 2026 08:31:53 +0200, Arno Welzel
> <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
[...]
>> <https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/USB_2.0_connectors.svg/1920px-USB_2.0_connectors.svg.png>
> 
> But this drawing doesn't show the other type of micro-B.
> 
> This one:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USB_3.0_Micro-B_receptacle.svg
> Here they have another name, .... superspeed, but the other picture I
> saw showed both of them with the same name. 
> 
> I've never heard superspeed used.   Have any of you?

Yes, I have an older external 2.5" hard disc which uses this connection
on the client side and for the host side a USB-A plug with the
additional connections for USB 3:

<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Connector_USB_3_IMGP6024_wp.jpg>

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Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#153483

Arno Welzel wrote:

> the host side a USB-A plug with the
> additional connections for USB 3:
> 
> <https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Connector_USB_3_IMGP6024_wp.jpg>

I think a lot of people are unaware of those additional pins 'hidden' 
within the (usually blue) USB3 A plug, the corresponding extra pins on 
micro-B are the reason for what micky calls the 'side car'

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#153451

micky wrote:

>> (SCAII think it's micro-usb but it's shaped like the original part of
>> Micro-B, before it had 2 parts.
>>
>>  _____
>> /     \
>> |_____|             )
> 
> Definitely Micro-B
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MicroB_USB_Plug.jpg
> 
> but how can there be two kinds of Micro?  
There is a relatively uncommon type of USB 3.0 micro-B plug, I only have 
two or three of them.

<https://startech.com/en-us/cables/usb3aub15cms>

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#153454

Andy Burns, 2026-04-16 08:46:

> micky wrote:
> 
>>> (SCAII think it's micro-usb but it's shaped like the original part of
>>> Micro-B, before it had 2 parts.
>>>
>>>  _____
>>> /     \
>>> |_____|             )
>>
>> Definitely Micro-B
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MicroB_USB_Plug.jpg
>>
>> but how can there be two kinds of Micro?  
> There is a relatively uncommon type of USB 3.0 micro-B plug, I only have 
> two or three of them.
> 
> <https://startech.com/en-us/cables/usb3aub15cms>

It may be uncommon today. But before there was USB-C this was a quite
common connection for external 2.5" portable hard discs when you want to
have USB 3. I also have a bunch of these.


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Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#153458

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> micky wrote:
> 
> >> (SCAII think it's micro-usb but it's shaped like the original part of
> >> Micro-B, before it had 2 parts.
> >>
> >>  _____
> >> /     \
> >> |_____|             )
> > 
> > Definitely Micro-B
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MicroB_USB_Plug.jpg
> > 
> > but how can there be two kinds of Micro?  
> There is a relatively uncommon type of USB 3.0 micro-B plug, I only have 
> two or three of them.
> 
> <https://startech.com/en-us/cables/usb3aub15cms>

  Western Digital's WD Elements external HDDs (and other WD HDDs?) use
these (on the HDD side). I have three of them, two 1TB ones and a 2TB
one.

  The connection is a bit akward and IME not very reliable, but it isn't
that bad either.

  Probably more modern drives use a USB-C plug/receptacle.

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#153459

Frank Slootweg wrote:

>> <https://startech.com/en-us/cables/usb3aub15cms>
>    Western Digital's WD Elements external HDDs (and other WD HDDs?) use
> these (on the HDD side). I have three of them, two 1TB ones and a 2TB
> one.
> 
>    The connection is a bit akward and IME not very reliable, but it isn't
> that bad either.

Yep, I have a western dig HDD, and a couple of generic 2.5" SATA housings.

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#153468

In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 16 Apr 2026 07:46:30 +0100, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

>micky wrote:
>
>>> (SCAII think it's micro-usb but it's shaped like the original part of
>>> Micro-B, before it had 2 parts.
>>>
>>>  _____
>>> /     \
>>> |_____|             )
>> 
>> Definitely Micro-B
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MicroB_USB_Plug.jpg
>> 
>> but how can there be two kinds of Micro?  
>There is a relatively uncommon type of USB 3.0 micro-B plug, I only have 
>two or three of them.
>
><https://startech.com/en-us/cables/usb3aub15cms>
>

Yes, that's the one I mean.  I don't mind there being two kinds, but I
wonder why they use the same name for both.  they are certainly not
interchangeable, at least not in both directions, so they should be
referred to by different names.  (not like the TV show Newhardt, where
he introduced his brother Earl and his other brother Earl.) 

I have one that came with iirc my WD Elements external drive. 

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#153511

On 15/04/2026 16:34, micky wrote:
> but how can there be two kinds of Micro?  Why isn't there a different
> name for the one with a side-car?

The one with the "side car" is the USB3 version of micro USB.
You can plug a USB2 micro USB into the bigger side of a USB3 micro USB 
socket and it works but with slower data transfer.

-- 
Brian Gregory (in England).

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