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  Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal NY <me@privacy.net> - 2025-07-25 22:17 +0100
    Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2025-07-25 22:49 +0100
    Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-07-25 14:57 -0700
    Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-26 04:30 +0200
    Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-26 08:24 +0100
      Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-26 09:29 +0200
        Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-26 09:55 +0200
          Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-26 09:37 +0100
          Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2025-07-27 09:10 +0100
          Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-27 09:25 +0100
            Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-27 09:29 +0100
              Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-27 16:39 +0200
                Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-27 19:58 +0200
                  Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-27 21:18 +0000
                  Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal NY <me@privacy.net> - 2025-07-30 19:21 +0100
                    Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal NY <me@privacy.net> - 2025-07-30 19:26 +0100
                    Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-30 22:35 +0200
            Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-27 16:37 +0200
              Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-07-27 15:28 +0000
                Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-27 17:20 +0000
                Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-27 18:34 +0000
                  Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-30 08:53 +0200
                Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-27 23:02 +0200
                  Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal NY <me@privacy.net> - 2025-07-30 19:45 +0100
        Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-26 08:55 +0100
          Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-07-26 11:42 +0100
          Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-26 17:35 +0000
        Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-07-26 13:37 +0200
          Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-26 15:24 +0200
          Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-26 14:48 +0100
            Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-26 16:09 +0200
            Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-07-26 16:29 +0200
              Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-26 17:57 +0100
                Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-26 17:47 +0000
            Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-26 17:36 +0000
              Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-26 18:34 +0000
            Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-07-26 20:57 +0100
              Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-07-26 21:45 +0100
          Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-07-26 21:45 -0400
    Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-07-26 21:34 -0400
    Re: Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal Bob Henson <bob.henson@outlook.com> - 2025-07-28 09:33 +0100

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#150033 — Wifi Calling - does it turn off calls/texts by mobile phone signal

If I turn on Wifi Calling on a Samsung phone (Android 15) does it allow 
calls to be received *either* by mobile (first preference) or wifi 
(second preference if there is no mobile signal)? Or does it mean *only* 
wifi? I'm got Wifi Calling enabled on my account.

I want to know whether I can leave it turned on permanently, and receive 
calls/texts both at home and when I'm out and about. My mobile signal at 
home is rather variable, even though Vodafone's coverage map says "Good 
Indoors and Outdoors" for 2G and 4G.

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#150035

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          NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> If I turn on Wifi Calling on a Samsung phone (Android 15) does it allow 
> calls to be received *either* by mobile (first preference) or wifi  (second
> preference if there is no mobile signal)? Or does it mean *only*  wifi? I'm
> got Wifi Calling enabled on my account.
> 
> I want to know whether I can leave it turned on permanently, and receive 
> calls/texts both at home and when I'm out and about. My mobile signal at 
> home is rather variable, even though Vodafone's coverage map says "Good 
> Indoors and Outdoors" for 2G and 4G.

I leave it permanently on, and I can make and receive calls and texts
in three situations: at home via wifi calling; out and about via the
mobile network when I'm not using wifi (which is the usual situation
when I'm out and about); and when I'm out and logged into a wifi
network that is not my own.

David

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#150036

On 7/25/2025 2:17 PM, NY wrote:

> If I turn on Wifi Calling on a Samsung phone (Android 15) does it
> allow calls to be received *either* by mobile (first preference) or
> wifi (second preference if there is no mobile signal)? Or does it
> mean *only* wifi? I'm got Wifi Calling enabled on my account. I want
> to know whether I can leave it turned on permanently, and receive
> calls/texts both at home and when I'm out and about. My mobile
> signal at home is rather variable, even though Vodafone's coverage
> map says "Good Indoors and Outdoors" for 2G and 4G.

I've left my Samsung Galaxy S10+ (Android 12) WiFi calling on
permanently now for several years. It works great and I've never had a
problem. But it may depend on your phone and WiFi/internet connection. I
suggest you try it and see...

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#150039

On 25.07.25 23:17, NY wrote:
> If I turn on Wifi Calling on a Samsung phone (Android 15) does it allow
> calls to be received *either* by mobile (first preference) or wifi
> (second preference if there is no mobile signal)? Or does it mean *only*
> wifi? I'm got Wifi Calling enabled on my account.
> 
> I want to know whether I can leave it turned on permanently, and receive
> calls/texts both at home and when I'm out and about. My mobile signal at
> home is rather variable, even though Vodafone's coverage map says "Good
> Indoors and Outdoors" for 2G and 4G.

You can leave it permanently on. The phone decides which is signal is 
stronger and uses it. Your intervention is not needed. And the phone is 
even switching during a call if needed.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)

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#150042

NY wrote:

> If I turn on Wifi Calling on a Samsung phone (Android 15) does it allow 
> calls to be received *either* by mobile (first preference) or wifi 
> (second preference if there is no mobile signal)? Or does it mean *only* 
> wifi? I'm got Wifi Calling enabled on my account.
> 
> I want to know whether I can leave it turned on permanently, and receive 
> calls/texts both at home and when I'm out and about. My mobile signal at 
> home is rather variable, even though Vodafone's coverage map says "Good 
> Indoors and Outdoors" for 2G and 4G.

I have my Pixel configured to prefer* wifi calling when I'm at home or a 
customer's site, anywhere else it automatically drops back to 2/3/4/5G.


[*] not everyone seems to have the option to set preferred wifi/mobile 
connection.

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#150043

On 26.07.2025 09:24, Andy Burns wrote:
> NY wrote:
> 
>> If I turn on Wifi Calling on a Samsung phone (Android 15) does it allow 
>> calls to be received *either* by mobile (first preference) or wifi 
>> (second preference if there is no mobile signal)? Or does it mean *only* 
>> wifi? I'm got Wifi Calling enabled on my account.
>>
>> I want to know whether I can leave it turned on permanently, and receive 
>> calls/texts both at home and when I'm out and about. My mobile signal at 
>> home is rather variable, even though Vodafone's coverage map says "Good 
>> Indoors and Outdoors" for 2G and 4G.
> 
> I have my Pixel configured to prefer* wifi calling when I'm at home or a 
> customer's site, anywhere else it automatically drops back to 2/3/4/5G.
> 
> 
> [*] not everyone seems to have the option to set preferred wifi/mobile 
> connection.

Correct. Does not work on my Pixel7 with Android 16.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)

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#150044

On 26.07.2025 09:29, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 26.07.2025 09:24, Andy Burns wrote:
>> NY wrote:
>>
>>> If I turn on Wifi Calling on a Samsung phone (Android 15) does it allow 
>>> calls to be received *either* by mobile (first preference) or wifi 
>>> (second preference if there is no mobile signal)? Or does it mean *only* 
>>> wifi? I'm got Wifi Calling enabled on my account.
>>>
>>> I want to know whether I can leave it turned on permanently, and receive 
>>> calls/texts both at home and when I'm out and about. My mobile signal at 
>>> home is rather variable, even though Vodafone's coverage map says "Good 
>>> Indoors and Outdoors" for 2G and 4G.
>>
>> I have my Pixel configured to prefer* wifi calling when I'm at home or a 
>> customer's site, anywhere else it automatically drops back to 2/3/4/5G.
>>
>>
>> [*] not everyone seems to have the option to set preferred wifi/mobile 
>> connection.
> 
> Correct. Does not work on my Pixel7 with Android 16.

BTW: It is not relevant for what telecom providers charges for a call
here in Switzerland. With that in mind it is clever to leave the choice
to the phone based on technical criterias.


-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)

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#150046

Jörg Lorenz wrote:

> It is not relevant for what telecom providers charges for a call
> here in Switzerland.

Almost all of my calls are included in my contract, so charges aren't an 
issue either way.

> With that in mind it is clever to leave the choice
> to the phone based on technical criterias.

My wifi+broadband provides a better signal than O2's network does at my 
house.

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#150067

On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 09:55:11 +0200, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
wrote:

>On 26.07.2025 09:29, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 26.07.2025 09:24, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> NY wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I turn on Wifi Calling on a Samsung phone (Android 15) does it allow 
>>>> calls to be received *either* by mobile (first preference) or wifi 
>>>> (second preference if there is no mobile signal)? Or does it mean *only* 
>>>> wifi? I'm got Wifi Calling enabled on my account.
>>>>
>>>> I want to know whether I can leave it turned on permanently, and receive 
>>>> calls/texts both at home and when I'm out and about. My mobile signal at 
>>>> home is rather variable, even though Vodafone's coverage map says "Good 
>>>> Indoors and Outdoors" for 2G and 4G.
>>>
>>> I have my Pixel configured to prefer* wifi calling when I'm at home or a 
>>> customer's site, anywhere else it automatically drops back to 2/3/4/5G.
>>>
>>>
>>> [*] not everyone seems to have the option to set preferred wifi/mobile 
>>> connection.
>> 
>> Correct. Does not work on my Pixel7 with Android 16.
>
>BTW: It is not relevant for what telecom providers charges for a call
>here in Switzerland. With that in mind it is clever to leave the choice
>to the phone based on technical criterias.

It's the same here in the UK. Call charges are the same whether your
phone is connecting via the mobile network itself or via Wi-Fi
Calling.

I believe many of the US networks charge for Wi-Fi Calling calls
differently, even when overseas. So if you travel outside the US and
call home while your phone is connected via Wi-Fi Calling you get
charged the same rate as if you were in the US.

Chris

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#150068

Jörg Lorenz wrote:

>  it is clever to leave the choice
> to the phone based on technical criterias.

I don't have an option "no preference",
just "prefer wifi" or "prefer mobile".

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#150069

Andy Burns wrote:

> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> 
>>  it is clever to leave the choice
>> to the phone based on technical criterias.
> 
> I don't have an option "no preference",
> just "prefer wifi" or "prefer mobile".

Alternatively I can disable wifi-calling altogether, of course.

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#150071

On 27.07.25 10:29, Andy Burns wrote:
> Andy Burns wrote:
> 
>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>
>>>   it is clever to leave the choice
>>> to the phone based on technical criterias.
>>
>> I don't have an option "no preference",
>> just "prefer wifi" or "prefer mobile".
> 
> Alternatively I can disable wifi-calling altogether, of course.

You would be losing comfort and stability in a big way. I use the 
function for over 10 years now and I'm more than happy.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)

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#150074

On 2025-07-27 16:39, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 27.07.25 10:29, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>
>>>>   it is clever to leave the choice
>>>> to the phone based on technical criterias.
>>>
>>> I don't have an option "no preference",
>>> just "prefer wifi" or "prefer mobile".
>>
>> Alternatively I can disable wifi-calling altogether, of course.
> 
> You would be losing comfort and stability in a big way. I use the 
> function for over 10 years now and I'm more than happy.

I have never used it and never missed it. My mobile phones work 
perfectly inside my home.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#150077

On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 19:58:33 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote :


>>>>>   it is clever to leave the choice
>>>>> to the phone based on technical criterias.
>>>>
>>>> I don't have an option "no preference",
>>>> just "prefer wifi" or "prefer mobile".
>>>
>>> Alternatively I can disable wifi-calling altogether, of course.
>> 
>> You would be losing comfort and stability in a big way. I use the 
>> function for over 10 years now and I'm more than happy.
> 
> I have never used it and never missed it. My mobile phones work 
> perfectly inside my home.

Hi Carlos,

It's great that you have good signal strength where wi-fi calling isn't
needed. I live in the boonies above Silicon Valley where it is needed.

It's needed less and less each year as 5GHz Wi-Fi takes over, but ten or
fifteen years ago we all had to ask our carriers for "tiny home towers".

Oh, I don't know, maybe about fifteen years ago the carrier used to give
us, for free, a wi-fi capable router so we could do Wi-Fi calling at home.

Then, oh, I don't know, maybe about ten years ago, the carrier would give
us a free cellular repeater pair (one receiver & one transmitter).

The cellular repeater is a purely analog receiver transmitter, where you
put the receiver in an upstairs window & the transmitter somewhere else.

That picks up a signal from miles away and amplifies it (repeats it).
About five or ten years ago they started giving us femtocell microtowers.

The micro/femto tower is a tiny little cellular tower connected to your
router which acts like an extra tiny cellular tower for the carrier.

Now that 5GHz is all the rage, they don't give us anything anymore. :)
 <https://i.postimg.cc/zf9w1tGZ/speedtest07.jpg> *255Mbps* 5G home speed 

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#150099

On 27/07/2025 18:58, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-07-27 16:39, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 27.07.25 10:29, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Alternatively I can disable wifi-calling altogether, of course.
>>
>> You would be losing comfort and stability in a big way. I use the 
>> function for over 10 years now and I'm more than happy.
> 
> I have never used it and never missed it. My mobile phones work 
> perfectly inside my home.

Then you are lucky. Vodafone's coverage map predicts good signal even 
indoors for our house, but it has been lousy since 3G stopped a few 
years ago. And that's even for voice calls and not for the more 
demanding mobile internet.

I've noticed that incoming calls often don't ring the phone, but 
Vodafone's voicemail does a few minutes later if the caller has left a 
message. And it's not that my phone's ringer volume is too low to hear 
because the ringer for Voicemail is loud enough to hear. And I've not 
done anything fancy like different ring tones for different callers in 
my phone's address book.

As a matter of interest, is WiFi calling (where the phone uses its wifi 
signal to contact the router and hence the internet) regarded as better 
or worse than a picocell (which transmits a mobile signal from an 
Ethernet connection to the router and hence the internet)? Two different 
solutions, provided by different mobile phone carriers.

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#150100

On 30/07/2025 19:21, NY wrote:
> On 27/07/2025 18:58, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-07-27 16:39, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> On 27.07.25 10:29, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>> Alternatively I can disable wifi-calling altogether, of course.
>>>
>>> You would be losing comfort and stability in a big way. I use the 
>>> function for over 10 years now and I'm more than happy.
>>
>> I have never used it and never missed it. My mobile phones work 
>> perfectly inside my home.
> 
> Then you are lucky. Vodafone's coverage map predicts good signal even 
> indoors for our house, but it has been lousy since 3G stopped a few 
> years ago. And that's even for voice calls and not for the more 
> demanding mobile internet.

And that's from a mast which is about 1/4 mile away on a hill that gives 
clear line of sight to the house - assuming that is the mast that 
Vodafone use. Certainly there have been cases when most of our village 
has experienced loss of mobile phone (as reported on out village's 
Facebook group) which tends to point to a single point of failure (that 
mast) for Vodafone, EE, Orange etc.

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#150102

On 2025-07-30 20:21, NY wrote:
> On 27/07/2025 18:58, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-07-27 16:39, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> On 27.07.25 10:29, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>> Alternatively I can disable wifi-calling altogether, of course.
>>>
>>> You would be losing comfort and stability in a big way. I use the 
>>> function for over 10 years now and I'm more than happy.
>>
>> I have never used it and never missed it. My mobile phones work 
>> perfectly inside my home.
> 
> Then you are lucky. Vodafone's coverage map predicts good signal even 
> indoors for our house, but it has been lousy since 3G stopped a few 
> years ago. And that's even for voice calls and not for the more 
> demanding mobile internet.
> 
> I've noticed that incoming calls often don't ring the phone, but 
> Vodafone's voicemail does a few minutes later if the caller has left a 
> message. And it's not that my phone's ringer volume is too low to hear 
> because the ringer for Voicemail is loud enough to hear. And I've not 
> done anything fancy like different ring tones for different callers in 
> my phone's address book.
> 
> As a matter of interest, is WiFi calling (where the phone uses its wifi 
> signal to contact the router and hence the internet) regarded as better 
> or worse than a picocell (which transmits a mobile signal from an 
> Ethernet connection to the router and hence the internet)? Two different 
> solutions, provided by different mobile phone carriers.

It is cheaper for the provider. And possibly for you, if they charge for 
the installation of the picocell. In any case, it is less hardware.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#150070

On 27.07.25 10:25, Andy Burns wrote:
> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> 
>>   it is clever to leave the choice
>> to the phone based on technical criterias.
> 
> I don't have an option "no preference",
> just "prefer wifi" or "prefer mobile".

"Prefer Wifi" is/seems to be default. My Pixel 7 is still set to the 
default value.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)

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#150072

On 7/27/25 7:37 AM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>On 27.07.25 10:25, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> 
>>>   it is clever to leave the choice
>>> to the phone based on technical criterias.
>> 
>> I don't have an option "no preference",
>> just "prefer wifi" or "prefer mobile".
>
>"Prefer Wifi" is/seems to be default. My Pixel 7 is still set to the 
>default value.

Likewise my Samsung Galaxy S10+. Years ago I walked around outside my house
 to see where WiFi calling switched to a tower. I got all my yard plus about
 30 ft down the street. I'm not sure if that meant I had a good WiFi or a
 poor or busy tower. It didn't prove anything but was an interesting test.
 Bottom line: I got rid of my landline years ago and never noticed a
 difference...

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#150073

On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 15:28:20 -0000 (UTC), AJL wrote :


>>"Prefer Wifi" is/seems to be default. My Pixel 7 is still set to the 
>>default value.
> 
> Likewise my Samsung Galaxy S10+. Years ago I walked around outside my house
>  to see where WiFi calling switched to a tower. I got all my yard plus about
>  30 ft down the street. I'm not sure if that meant I had a good WiFi or a
>  poor or busy tower. It didn't prove anything but was an interesting test.
>  Bottom line: I got rid of my landline years ago and never noticed a
>  difference...

On that topic, any good free no ad no registration cellular debugger will
provide your current signal strength where, oh, more than -100dBm is good.

When you switch the debugger to Wi-Fi, more than, oh, about -60dBm is good.

For those interested, there are "heat map" apps which map out your signal.
I didn't read this article (as I've tested them all) but this may help:
 *The Top 5 Best Apps to Measure Wi-Fi Signal Strength on Android*
 <https://www.netspotapp.com/wifi-signal-strength/best-apps-to-measure-wifi-signal-strength-android.html>
 
There's also Android Network Cell Analyzer on GitHub, which is a
customizable signal-strength tracker which syncs data to a backend server.
 <https://github.com/sargonradiyeh/Android-Network-Cell-Analyzer>

For cellular signal, again, I tested them all years ago, but this may help.
 *Best Apps To Test Cell Phone Signal Strength*
 <https://www.signalboosters.com/blog/best-smartphone-apps-to-find-your-cell-signal-strength/>

Funny thing, Apple forbids these kinds of useful graphical debugging tools
on iOS, but even the brain-dead iOS can do what Android can do textually.
 Settings > About Phone > SIM Status > look for signal strength readings

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