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Phone usually doesn't' work

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First post2025-06-05 23:37 -0400
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  Phone usually doesn't' work  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-06-05 23:37 -0400
    Re: Phone usually doesn't' work "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-06 10:15 +0200
      Re: Phone usually doesn't' work Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-06-06 10:07 +0100
      Re: Phone usually doesn't' work Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-06-06 12:17 +0200
      Re: Phone usually doesn't' work "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-06 12:54 +0200
        Re: Phone usually doesn't' work "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-06-06 22:18 +0200
          Re: Phone usually doesn't' work "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-06 22:50 +0200
    Phone usually doesn't' work Oleg Nazaroff <Oleg_Nazaroff@p700.f700.n50.z2.fidonet.org.ru> - 2025-06-06 12:22 +0300
      Re: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-06-06 22:19 +0200
        Re: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-06 21:29 +0100
          Re: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-06 22:53 +0200
          Re: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-06-07 13:22 +0200
            Re: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-07 14:38 +0200
              Re: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT] Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-06-08 11:44 +0200
                Re: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-09 21:13 +0200
            Re: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT] micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-06-07 19:14 -0400
              Re: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-06-08 18:14 +0200
            Re: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT] Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-08 04:08 +0100
        Re: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT] Oleg Nazaroff <Oleg_Nazaroff@p700.f700.n50.z2.fidonet.org.ru> - 2025-06-07 00:58 +0300
          Re: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT] Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-06-07 02:51 +0200
          Re: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-07 03:08 +0200
          Re: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-06-07 13:23 +0200
    Re: Phone usually doesn't' work knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-06 06:47 -0400
      Re: Phone usually doesn't' work micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-06-06 12:24 -0400
        Re: Phone usually doesn't' work knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-06 12:46 -0400
    Re: Phone usually doesn't' work Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-06-07 15:19 +0100
      Re: Phone usually doesn't' work "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-07 18:53 +0200
      Re: Phone usually doesn't' work micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-06-07 14:22 -0400
        Re: Phone usually doesn't' work "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-06-08 21:51 +0200
          Re: Phone usually doesn't' work micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-06-09 00:39 -0400
            Re: Phone usually doesn't' work micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-06-11 07:14 -0400
              Re: Phone usually doesn't' work "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-12 10:11 +0200
                Re: Phone usually doesn't' work micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-06-12 13:20 -0400

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#148703 — Re: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT]

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-06-07 03:08 +0200
SubjectRe: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT]
Message-ID<t1gchlx9nf.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#148701
On 2025-06-06 23:58, Oleg Nazaroff wrote:
> Hello, s|b.
> On 06.06.2025 22:19 you wrote:
> 
>   S> Please turn that off. A normal quote marker like > will do.
> 
> Dear sir, would you be so kind as to go to the ass? Since I'm writing from fidonet, I definitely don't give a fuck about your inconvenience.

Please be polite, and respect Fidonet rules. By those rules, your link 
would kick you out immediately for bad manners.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#148705 — Re: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT]

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2025-06-07 13:23 +0200
SubjectRe: Phone usually doesn't' work [OT]
Message-ID<mailp4Fabu8U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#148701
On Sat, 07 Jun 2025 00:58:47 +0300, Oleg Nazaroff wrote:

>  S> Please turn that off. A normal quote marker like > will do.
 
> Dear sir, would you be so kind as to go to the ass? Since I'm writing from fidonet, I definitely don't give a fuck about your inconvenience.

Not a problem.

*plonk*

-- 
s|b

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#148692

Fromknuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com>
Date2025-06-06 06:47 -0400
Message-ID<101uh14$276eg$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#148687
On 06/05/2025 11:37 PM, micky wrote:
> Any idea what's going on here? A Xiaomi phone with Android 14 iirc.  I
> picked a friend up at National Airport.  She had called me yesterday on
> her cell.  She had called me today to my cell to tell me she had landed.
> But then her phone stopped working.  She had to get some stranger to
> call me the next time.   Later her son called her and that worked fine
> for 10 minutes, and then she called her friend to tell her she landed
> and would be coming soon and that worked fine, but then her phone
> stopped working again.
> 
> When we got to the friend's, I saw that she had 5 bars, but when I
> tapped on any of the people she had previously called, it immediately
> displayed the dialing page and immediately reverted to the list of prior
> calls page.  I called the other 2 numbers, the same thing happened.
> 
> This was probably when I noticed she had no bars, though I hadn't moved
> from my chair.
> 
> I reset the bluetooth, wifi, and mobile connections.  The bars did not
> come back.
> 
> I rebooted the phone, the bars did not come back.
> 
> I turned on airplane mode, then turned it off.  The bars came back.
> 
> I made a phone call and instead of revering immediately, it took about a
> minute before her phone hung up.
> 
> I called someone else.  The bars were gone and It reverted immediately.
> 
> I turned airplane mode on and off. the bars came back.  Repeated 2 steps
> before this with same results.
> 
> Used airplane mode to bring the bars back again and tried to bring up a
> webpage.  Got a negative message about not being online, or something.
> 
> Connected her to her hostess's wifi, web browser worked fine.
> 
> I called her cell from my phone. Got some negative message about her
> being unreachable.
> 
> Called again just now from my phone.  Displays message immediately "Call
> ended" and reverted to contact list after 7 seconds, each time.
> 
> What's wrong.  How do I fix it?
It sounds like the battery is low, and on standing slightly recovers.

If it were mine I would charge it and see what happens.   If possible I 
would use a different charger, as the connection on that charger may be 
damaged, or the charger burned out.

Once Charged I would do a reset, and if that fails I would do a factory 
reset.  Be aware a Factory reset will loose local data in the internal 
storage.  If all that failed I would set it in the garbage can.

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#148694

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
Date2025-06-06 12:24 -0400
Message-ID<7c564kdg9bsfk5odbbumcm9k5v1svr9gub@4ax.com>
In reply to#148692
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 6 Jun 2025 06:47:52 -0400, knuttle
<keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 06/05/2025 11:37 PM, micky wrote:
>> Any idea what's going on here? A Xiaomi phone with Android 14 iirc.  I
>> picked a friend up at National Airport.  She had called me yesterday on
>> her cell.  She had called me today to my cell to tell me she had landed.
>> But then her phone stopped working.  She had to get some stranger to
>> call me the next time.   Later her son called her and that worked fine
>> for 10 minutes, and then she called her friend to tell her she landed
>> and would be coming soon and that worked fine, but then her phone
>> stopped working again.
>> 
>> When we got to the friend's, I saw that she had 5 bars, but when I
>> tapped on any of the people she had previously called, it immediately
>> displayed the dialing page and immediately reverted to the list of prior
>> calls page.  I called the other 2 numbers, the same thing happened.
>> 
>> This was probably when I noticed she had no bars, though I hadn't moved
>> from my chair.
>> 
>> I reset the bluetooth, wifi, and mobile connections.  The bars did not
>> come back.
>> 
>> I rebooted the phone, the bars did not come back.
>> 
>> I turned on airplane mode, then turned it off.  The bars came back.
>> 
>> I made a phone call and instead of revering immediately, it took about a
>> minute before her phone hung up.
>> 
>> I called someone else.  The bars were gone and It reverted immediately.
>> 
>> I turned airplane mode on and off. the bars came back.  Repeated 2 steps
>> before this with same results.
>> 
>> Used airplane mode to bring the bars back again and tried to bring up a
>> webpage.  Got a negative message about not being online, or something.
>> 
>> Connected her to her hostess's wifi, web browser worked fine.
>> 
>> I called her cell from my phone. Got some negative message about her
>> being unreachable.
>> 
>> Called again just now from my phone.  Displays message immediately "Call
>> ended" and reverted to contact list after 7 seconds, each time.
>> 
>> What's wrong.  How do I fix it?
>It sounds like the battery is low, and on standing slightly recovers.

You're right.  The battery is low, 24 to 20%.  She should have charged
it last night.  I'm going to go over there in a while. 
>
>If it were mine I would charge it and see what happens.   If possible I 
>would use a different charger, as the connection on that charger may be 
>damaged, or the charger burned out.

Maybe so.  She had the phone on all day but I would think she charged it
the night before a flight.  

>Once Charged I would do a reset, 

You mean a connection reset, right?  Okay. 

>and if that fails I would do a factory 
>reset.  

>Be aware a Factory reset will loose local data in the internal 
>storage.  If all that failed I would set it in the garbage can.

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#148695

Fromknuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com>
Date2025-06-06 12:46 -0400
Message-ID<101v614$2cisb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#148694
On 06/06/2025 12:24 PM, micky wrote:
>> Once Charged I would do a reset,
> You mean a connection reset, right?  Okay.
On my Motorola, there are two resets.  One just resets the software, and 
the other returns the phnoe to original factory conditions.

I was referring to the software reset.

WHile I don't see what a connection reset (I assume a reset with the 
carrier) I don't see how that would affect the problem you are 
experiencing.  As the commericial many years age "Try it you will like 
it"    It can not hurt any thing.

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#148707

FromBrian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid>
Date2025-06-07 15:19 +0100
Message-ID<maj03bFbu6cU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#148687
On 06/06/2025 04:37, micky wrote:
> Any idea what's going on here? A Xiaomi phone with Android 14 iirc.  I
> picked a friend up at National Airport.  She had called me yesterday on
> her cell.  She had called me today to my cell to tell me she had landed.
> But then her phone stopped working.  She had to get some stranger to
> call me the next time.   Later her son called her and that worked fine
> for 10 minutes, and then she called her friend to tell her she landed
> and would be coming soon and that worked fine, but then her phone
> stopped working again.
> 
> When we got to the friend's, I saw that she had 5 bars, but when I
> tapped on any of the people she had previously called, it immediately
> displayed the dialing page and immediately reverted to the list of prior
> calls page.  I called the other 2 numbers, the same thing happened.
> 
> This was probably when I noticed she had no bars, though I hadn't moved
> from my chair.
> 
> I reset the bluetooth, wifi, and mobile connections.  The bars did not
> come back.
> 
> I rebooted the phone, the bars did not come back.
> 
> I turned on airplane mode, then turned it off.  The bars came back.
> 
> I made a phone call and instead of revering immediately, it took about a
> minute before her phone hung up.
> 
> I called someone else.  The bars were gone and It reverted immediately.
> 
> I turned airplane mode on and off. the bars came back.  Repeated 2 steps
> before this with same results.
> 
> Used airplane mode to bring the bars back again and tried to bring up a
> webpage.  Got a negative message about not being online, or something.
> 
> Connected her to her hostess's wifi, web browser worked fine.
> 
> I called her cell from my phone. Got some negative message about her
> being unreachable.
> 
> Called again just now from my phone.  Displays message immediately "Call
> ended" and reverted to contact list after 7 seconds, each time.
> 
> What's wrong.  How do I fix it?

You should consider reverting to factory settings and re-setting up the 
phone again leaving off any dodgy looking apps. Which can be a real 
PITA, especially if you don't use a Google account. But it also might be 
a hardware fault.

-- 
Brian Gregory (in England).

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#148708

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-06-07 18:53 +0200
Message-ID<vc7ehlxt3h.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#148707
On 2025-06-07 16:19, Brian Gregory wrote:
> On 06/06/2025 04:37, micky wrote:
>> Any idea what's going on here? A Xiaomi phone with Android 14 iirc.  I
>> picked a friend up at National Airport.  She had called me yesterday on
>> her cell.  She had called me today to my cell to tell me she had landed.
>> But then her phone stopped working.  She had to get some stranger to
>> call me the next time.   Later her son called her and that worked fine
>> for 10 minutes, and then she called her friend to tell her she landed
>> and would be coming soon and that worked fine, but then her phone
>> stopped working again.
>>
>> When we got to the friend's, I saw that she had 5 bars, but when I
>> tapped on any of the people she had previously called, it immediately
>> displayed the dialing page and immediately reverted to the list of prior
>> calls page.  I called the other 2 numbers, the same thing happened.
>>
>> This was probably when I noticed she had no bars, though I hadn't moved
>> from my chair.
>>
>> I reset the bluetooth, wifi, and mobile connections.  The bars did not
>> come back.
>>
>> I rebooted the phone, the bars did not come back.
>>
>> I turned on airplane mode, then turned it off.  The bars came back.
>>
>> I made a phone call and instead of revering immediately, it took about a
>> minute before her phone hung up.
>>
>> I called someone else.  The bars were gone and It reverted immediately.
>>
>> I turned airplane mode on and off. the bars came back.  Repeated 2 steps
>> before this with same results.
>>
>> Used airplane mode to bring the bars back again and tried to bring up a
>> webpage.  Got a negative message about not being online, or something.
>>
>> Connected her to her hostess's wifi, web browser worked fine.
>>
>> I called her cell from my phone. Got some negative message about her
>> being unreachable.
>>
>> Called again just now from my phone.  Displays message immediately "Call
>> ended" and reverted to contact list after 7 seconds, each time.
>>
>> What's wrong.  How do I fix it?
> 
> You should consider reverting to factory settings and re-setting up the 
> phone again leaving off any dodgy looking apps. Which can be a real 
> PITA, especially if you don't use a Google account. But it also might be 
> a hardware fault.

Maybe a non default dialing app. But that would not affect the number of 
bars.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#148709

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
Date2025-06-07 14:22 -0400
Message-ID<8ov84kpis1uol4nl8ntdr50e43o7kpsd87@4ax.com>
In reply to#148707
In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 7 Jun 2025 15:19:24 +0100, Brian Gregory
<void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:

>On 06/06/2025 04:37, micky wrote:
>> Any idea what's going on here? A Xiaomi phone with Android 14 iirc.  I
>> picked a friend up at National Airport.  She had called me yesterday on
>> her cell.  She had called me today to my cell to tell me she had landed.
>> But then her phone stopped working.  She had to get some stranger to
>> call me the next time.   Later her son called her and that worked fine
>> for 10 minutes, and then she called her friend to tell her she landed
>> and would be coming soon and that worked fine, but then her phone
>> stopped working again.
>> 
>> When we got to the friend's, I saw that she had 5 bars, but when I
>> tapped on any of the people she had previously called, it immediately
>> displayed the dialing page and immediately reverted to the list of prior
>> calls page.  I called the other 2 numbers, the same thing happened.
>> 
>> This was probably when I noticed she had no bars, though I hadn't moved
>> from my chair.
>> 
>> I reset the bluetooth, wifi, and mobile connections.  The bars did not
>> come back.
>> 
>> I rebooted the phone, the bars did not come back.
>> 
>> I turned on airplane mode, then turned it off.  The bars came back.
>> 
>> I made a phone call and instead of revering immediately, it took about a
>> minute before her phone hung up.
>> 
>> I called someone else.  The bars were gone and It reverted immediately.
>> 
>> I turned airplane mode on and off. the bars came back.  Repeated 2 steps
>> before this with same results.
>> 
>> Used airplane mode to bring the bars back again and tried to bring up a
>> webpage.  Got a negative message about not being online, or something.
>> 
>> Connected her to her hostess's wifi, web browser worked fine.
>> 
>> I called her cell from my phone. Got some negative message about her
>> being unreachable.
>> 
>> Called again just now from my phone.  Displays message immediately "Call
>> ended" and reverted to contact list after 7 seconds, each time.
>> 
>> What's wrong.  How do I fix it?
>
>You should consider reverting to factory settings and re-setting up the 
>phone again leaving off any dodgy looking apps. Which can be a real 
>PITA, especially if you don't use a Google account.

Yes, she has lots of stuff in her phone, a long contact list and I don't
know what else but she only has 2 gigs empty out of 64 or 48 iirc. 

She'd have to backup all this stuff, and I'd have to show her,  And I
don't remember how either.   That would be a separate thread, but I'm
tired of this.  

She's sick. She's an American covered by medicare but living abroad and
she's here for medical treatment. I picked her up at National Airport in
rush hour Thurdsay to take her to Baltmore, 1:30 each way. 

That night I learned about wifi-calling (which would help when she could
connect to wifi) and that she had to implement it, and learned about
VoLTE**.  I did talk to her on the phone and she couldn't find that
option and her phone is newer than mine so maybe on her phone it's
always on. Is that typical for newer phones, VoLTE is always on? 

the description on my phone is "Use VoLTE to improve the quality of
voice calls" because, I think, at the time the phone was made, 5 or so
years ago, 3G was everywhere, and now it's nowhere, and now the phone
doesn't work at all unless you turn on VoLTE.  Did I get that right? 

She'd pressured me to take her to the Boost Mobile store, but we didn't
agree on when, and I went over Friday and she and her hostess were on
their way out and she wouldn't even let me look at the phone during the
5 or 10 minutes when they weren't leaving yet.  I like her and she's in
her 80's, but she gets on my nerves sometimes.  

Now I have to take her to a doctor in Rockville on Monday and a doctor
in Baltimore on Tuesday.  She did say she'd take me out to dinner on
Monday evening but I don't have time to go. 

> But it also might be 
>a hardware fault.

Yes, a bad connection that goes in and out, maybe. 

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#148734

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2025-06-08 21:51 +0200
Message-ID<mam7umFsl2eU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#148709
On Sat, 07 Jun 2025 14:22:55 -0400, micky wrote:

> Yes, she has lots of stuff in her phone, a long contact list and I don't
> know what else but she only has 2 gigs empty out of 64 or 48 iirc. 

It's going to be 64, not 48 (it's 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, ...)
I work as a volunteer helping people with digital stuff like
smartphones. Past week I've encountered a woman with a malfunctioning
phone with 62 GB of her 64 GB filled. That's just asking for problems.

If her phone has the option of a microSD card I'd advise to buy one and
move data to it. Don't buy too big. You should be able to see on
gsmarena.com what cards are supported.

You can backup pictures to Google Drive and delete them on the phone.
There's a setting to not backup the original size, but smaller. Not too
worry; they will still be big enough. Contact list is on Google Drive as
well.
 
> That night I learned about wifi-calling (which would help when she could
> connect to wifi) and that she had to implement it,

Her carrier needs to support her device as well for it to work.

> and learned about
> VoLTE**.  I did talk to her on the phone and she couldn't find that
> option and her phone is newer than mine so maybe on her phone it's
> always on. Is that typical for newer phones, VoLTE is always on? 

IIRC you can check this with:

*#*#4636#*#*

As for VoWiFi, if the phone supports it I advise to set it to always use
VoWiFi if possible.
 
> the description on my phone is "Use VoLTE to improve the quality of
> voice calls" because, I think, at the time the phone was made, 5 or so
> years ago, 3G was everywhere, and now it's nowhere, and now the phone
> doesn't work at all unless you turn on VoLTE.  Did I get that right? 

I value VoWiFi over VoLTE. In my history, I can see when VoLTE is being
used, so it's active. To my knowledge, there's no setting for this, but
the device needs to be supported by the carrier.

-- 
s|b

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#148735

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
Date2025-06-09 00:39 -0400
Message-ID<a3pc4kp68sn2k4s7jtup8b6b3329vt2gc3@4ax.com>
In reply to#148734
In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 08 Jun 2025 21:51:51 +0200, "s|b"
<me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>On Sat, 07 Jun 2025 14:22:55 -0400, micky wrote:
>
>> Yes, she has lots of stuff in her phone, a long contact list and I don't
>> know what else but she only has 2 gigs empty out of 64 or 48 iirc. 
>
>It's going to be 64, not 48 (it's 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, ...)
>I work as a volunteer helping people with digital stuff like
>smartphones. Past week I've encountered a woman with a malfunctioning
>phone with 62 GB of her 64 GB filled. That's just asking for problems.
>
>If her phone has the option of a microSD card I'd advise to buy one and
>move data to it. Don't buy too big. You should be able to see on
>gsmarena.com what cards are supported.
>
>You can backup pictures to Google Drive and delete them on the phone.
>There's a setting to not backup the original size, but smaller. Not too
>worry; they will still be big enough. Contact list is on Google Drive as
>well.
> 
>> That night I learned about wifi-calling (which would help when she could
>> connect to wifi) and that she had to implement it,
>
>Her carrier needs to support her device as well for it to work.
>
>> and learned about
>> VoLTE**.  I did talk to her on the phone and she couldn't find that
>> option and her phone is newer than mine so maybe on her phone it's
>> always on. Is that typical for newer phones, VoLTE is always on? 
>
>IIRC you can check this with:
>
>*#*#4636#*#*
>
>As for VoWiFi, if the phone supports it I advise to set it to always use
>VoWiFi if possible.
> 
>> the description on my phone is "Use VoLTE to improve the quality of
>> voice calls" because, I think, at the time the phone was made, 5 or so
>> years ago, 3G was everywhere, and now it's nowhere, and now the phone
>> doesn't work at all unless you turn on VoLTE.  Did I get that right? 
>
>I value VoWiFi over VoLTE. In my history, I can see when VoLTE is being
>used, so it's active. To my knowledge, there's no setting for this, but
>the device needs to be supported by the carrier.

Maybe she'll let me fiddle with the phone when she's seeing the doctor
tomorrow.  Little point in replying in detail before then. So I'll have
a more detailed answer afterwards. 

In a few days she'd going to her sister near Philadelphia and going to
the Wilmer Eye Clinic there. (She's already had 3 or 4 eye surgeries
after being injured, the last one to replace a lens, that did not go
well enough.  But the previous doctors agreed she should try again. Hate
to say it but I'll have a lot more spare3 time when she's gone. 

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#148756

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
Date2025-06-11 07:14 -0400
Message-ID<hqoi4kt526ut9ti1csne6v081qvf85efhq@4ax.com>
In reply to#148735
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 09 Jun 2025 00:39:15 -0400, micky
<NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

>In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 08 Jun 2025 21:51:51 +0200, "s|b"
><me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 07 Jun 2025 14:22:55 -0400, micky wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, she has lots of stuff in her phone, a long contact list and I don't
>>> know what else but she only has 2 gigs empty out of 64 or 48 iirc. 
>>
>>It's going to be 64, not 48 (it's 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, ...)
>>I work as a volunteer helping people with digital stuff like
>>smartphones. Past week I've encountered a woman with a malfunctioning
>>phone with 62 GB of her 64 GB filled. That's just asking for problems.
>>
>>If her phone has the option of a microSD card I'd advise to buy one and
>>move data to it. Don't buy too big. You should be able to see on
>>gsmarena.com what cards are supported.
>>
>>You can backup pictures to Google Drive and delete them on the phone.
>>There's a setting to not backup the original size, but smaller. Not too
>>worry; they will still be big enough. Contact list is on Google Drive as
>>well.
>> 
>>> That night I learned about wifi-calling (which would help when she could
>>> connect to wifi) and that she had to implement it,
>>
>>Her carrier needs to support her device as well for it to work.
>>
>>> and learned about
>>> VoLTE**.  I did talk to her on the phone and she couldn't find that
>>> option and her phone is newer than mine so maybe on her phone it's
>>> always on. Is that typical for newer phones, VoLTE is always on? 
>>
>>IIRC you can check this with:
>>
>>*#*#4636#*#*
>>
>>As for VoWiFi, if the phone supports it I advise to set it to always use
>>VoWiFi if possible.
>> 
>>> the description on my phone is "Use VoLTE to improve the quality of
>>> voice calls" because, I think, at the time the phone was made, 5 or so
>>> years ago, 3G was everywhere, and now it's nowhere, and now the phone
>>> doesn't work at all unless you turn on VoLTE.  Did I get that right? 
>>
>>I value VoWiFi over VoLTE. In my history, I can see when VoLTE is being
>>used, so it's active. To my knowledge, there's no setting for this, but
>>the device needs to be supported by the carrier.
>
>Maybe she'll let me fiddle with the phone when she's seeing the doctor
>tomorrow.  Little point in replying in detail before then. So I'll have
>a more detailed answer afterwards. 

She or her son talked to Boost Mobile and they said it was a
compatibility issue and they would have to change something at their
end, or so I hear. By yeterday, Tuesday, it still wasn't working.  She's
relying on Whatsapp, and her friends in the USA all have it, or they
couldnt' talk to her when she's abroad. 
>
>In a few days she'd going to her sister near Philadelphia and going to
>the Wilmer Eye Clinic there. (She's already had 3 or 4 eye surgeries
>after being injured, the last one to replace a lens, that did not go
>well enough.  But the previous doctors agreed she should try again. Hate
>to say it but I'll have a lot more spare3 time when she's gone. 

They eye doctor said the previous doctors did a good job, by saving her
eye. Others might have taken it out.  But he wouldn't do more surgery
and warned against it becuase it could make things worse.  Cause her to
lose the eye.  AFAICT the injury -- someone shot at her and part of her
glasses went into her eye-- went beyond the lens and to the cornea. This
guy specializes not just in eyes but in corneas.   And her good eye is
not all that good either, because of age. Things are distorted with only
one eye. For examples, she can't see curbs and is afraid she'll trip,
and she sees the trees along the road as closer than they are and about
to hit her.  And she's afraid she'll be totally blind.  I didn't know
what to say to make her feel better. 

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#148776

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-06-12 10:11 +0200
Message-ID<5meqhlxg92.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#148756
On 2025-06-11 13:14, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 09 Jun 2025 00:39:15 -0400, micky
> <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

...

> They eye doctor said the previous doctors did a good job, by saving her
> eye. Others might have taken it out.  But he wouldn't do more surgery
> and warned against it becuase it could make things worse.  Cause her to
> lose the eye.  AFAICT the injury -- someone shot at her and part of her
> glasses went into her eye-- went beyond the lens and to the cornea. This
> guy specializes not just in eyes but in corneas.   And her good eye is
> not all that good either, because of age. Things are distorted with only
> one eye. For examples, she can't see curbs and is afraid she'll trip,
> and she sees the trees along the road as closer than they are and about
> to hit her.  And she's afraid she'll be totally blind.  I didn't know
> what to say to make her feel better.

Sorry.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#148779

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
Date2025-06-12 13:20 -0400
Message-ID<j23m4kplqbf1d7opflhplo69v7ns01a5me@4ax.com>
In reply to#148776
In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 12 Jun 2025 10:11:17 +0200, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 2025-06-11 13:14, micky wrote:
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 09 Jun 2025 00:39:15 -0400, micky
>> <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>
>...
>
>> They eye doctor said the previous doctors did a good job, by saving her
>> eye. Others might have taken it out.  But he wouldn't do more surgery
>> and warned against it becuase it could make things worse.  Cause her to
>> lose the eye.  AFAICT the injury -- someone shot at her and part of her
>> glasses went into her eye-- went beyond the lens and to the cornea. This
>> guy specializes not just in eyes but in corneas.   And her good eye is
>> not all that good either, because of age. Things are distorted with only
>> one eye. For examples, she can't see curbs and is afraid she'll trip,
>> and she sees the trees along the road as closer than they are and about
>> to hit her.  And she's afraid she'll be totally blind.  I didn't know
>> what to say to make her feel better.
>
>Sorry.

Exactly.  I think I said that. 

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