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  Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) D <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> - 2025-05-19 09:43 -0400
    Re: Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-19 18:19 +0200
      Re: Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-05-19 18:04 +0000
        Re: Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-20 18:02 +0200
          Re: Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-20 18:50 +0200
            Re: Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-05-20 19:18 +0000
            Re: Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-20 22:53 +0200
              Re: Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-20 22:57 +0200
                Re: Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-20 23:35 +0200
              Re: Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-20 22:58 +0200
                Re: Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-20 23:38 +0200
                Re: Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-05-21 04:02 +0000
                  Re: Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-22 11:48 +0200
                    Re: Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-05-22 09:59 +0000
              Re: Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-21 17:52 +0000
                Re: Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-22 11:16 +0200
                  Re: Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-23 18:04 +0200
                  Re: Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-23 18:07 +0000

#148509 — Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18)

https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1452/  
>New Release: Tor Browser 14.5.2   
>by ma1 | May 18, 2025 
>Tor Browser 14.5.2 is now available from the Tor Browser download page  
>https://www.torproject.org/download/   
>and also from our distribution directory. 
>https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/14.5.2/ 
>This version includes important security updates to Firefox.
>Send us your feedback    
>If you find a bug or have a suggestion for how we could improve this release,  
>please let us know.   
>Full changelog  
>The full changelog since Tor Browser 14.5.1 is:  
>*All Platforms   
>   Bug tor-browser#43397: Click to play should override "Any capability   
>   blocked in the top document must be blocked in its subdocuments too"    
>   Bug tor-browser#43802: Rebase Tor Browser Stable onto Firefox 128.10.1esr
>   Bug tor-browser-build#41460: Add brizental to the list of people who can  
>   sign Tor Browser and Mullvad Browser tags 
>*Windows + macOS + Linux   
>   Updated Firefox to 128.10.1esr   
>   Bug tor-browser#43635: Console noise due to the x-load capability not
>   being localized    
>   Bug tor-browser#43738: Backport Bugzilla 1947157: Move linux security  
>   warning content into own page   
>*Android   
>   Updated GeckoView to 128.10.1esr 
>*Build System  
>   All Platforms   
>     Bug tor-browser#43777: Disable ./mach telemetry  
>     Bug tor-browser-build#41449: Add prefix to update-responses xml files  
>     Bug tor-browser-build#41451: When update-responses contains multiple
>     versions, .htaccess only has one no-update.xml redirect    
>     Bug tor-browser-build#41452: Skip update-responses xml files for   
>     versions which don't have incrementals  
>  Windows + Linux + Android  
>     Updated Go to 1.23.9      
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#148513

On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
> https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1452/  
>> New Release: Tor Browser 14.5.2   
>> by ma1 | May 18, 2025 
>> Tor Browser 14.5.2 is now available from the Tor Browser download page  
>> https://www.torproject.org/download/   
>> and also from our distribution directory. 
>> https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/14.5.2/ 
>> This version includes important security updates to Firefox.
>> Send us your feedback    
>> If you find a bug or have a suggestion for how we could improve this release,  
>> please let us know.   
>> Full changelog  
>> The full changelog since Tor Browser 14.5.1 is:  
>> *All Platforms   
>>   Bug tor-browser#43397: Click to play should override "Any capability   
>>   blocked in the top document must be blocked in its subdocuments too"    
>>   Bug tor-browser#43802: Rebase Tor Browser Stable onto Firefox 128.10.1esr
>>   Bug tor-browser-build#41460: Add brizental to the list of people who can  
>>   sign Tor Browser and Mullvad Browser tags 
>> *Windows + macOS + Linux   
>>   Updated Firefox to 128.10.1esr   
>>   Bug tor-browser#43635: Console noise due to the x-load capability not
>>   being localized    
>>   Bug tor-browser#43738: Backport Bugzilla 1947157: Move linux security  
>>   warning content into own page   
>> *Android   
>>   Updated GeckoView to 128.10.1esr 
>> *Build System  
>>   All Platforms   
>>     Bug tor-browser#43777: Disable ./mach telemetry  
>>     Bug tor-browser-build#41449: Add prefix to update-responses xml files  
>>     Bug tor-browser-build#41451: When update-responses contains multiple
>>     versions, .htaccess only has one no-update.xml redirect    
>>     Bug tor-browser-build#41452: Skip update-responses xml files for   
>>     versions which don't have incrementals  
>>  Windows + Linux + Android  
>>     Updated Go to 1.23.9      
> [end quoted plain text]     

*OT*


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#148520

On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
<<--deleted-->>
>
> *OT*

Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.

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#148524

On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
> On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
> <<--deleted-->>
>>
>> *OT*
> 
> Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.

I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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#148525

On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
>> <<--deleted-->>
>>>
>>> *OT*
>>
>> Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.
> 
> I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.
> 

But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had 
to say. That is not polite to us.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.

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#148532

On Tue, 20 May 2025 18:50:04 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote :


> But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had 
> to say. That is not polite to us.

Hi Carlos,

What's interesting is I think something like 95% of people posting to
Usenet invest about 10 to 20 seconds of effort adding value to their post.

The next 3% are like Joerg & Alan Baker who invest even less than that.
Joerg's average is about 3 to 4 seconds, per post, by my calculations.

What's mathematically interesting is Joerg provides, in those three
seconds, everything he will ever know about the topic he's posting on.

Back on topic, this is the original thread as far as I can tell.
 <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=59037&group=comp.mobile.android#59037>

What's possibly relevant isn't TOR blog article 1452 but 1302 (Android).
 <https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1302/>
 "This release is identical to our 13.0.1 release, but fixes an issue
  with the Android apk version-code which collided with our 13.0 releases. 
  This colliding version code prevented us from publishing to Google Play,
  so we have built 13.0.2 with an empty commit in order to generate a 
  new non-colliding version code."

Apparently the OP (not Joerg, but "D") was trying to inform us:

The Problem: 
The Tor Project released Tor Browser 13.0.1 for Android. 
However, the "version code" (a numerical identifier used by Google Play
to distinguish different app versions) for this release happened 
to be the same as a previous 13.0.x release.

The Consequence: 
This "colliding version code" prevented the Tor Project from 
publishing Tor Browser 13.0.1 to Google Play. Google Play requires
each new app update to have a unique and incrementing version code.

The Solution: 
To fix this, the Tor Project released Tor Browser 13.0.2. 
This new version is functionally identical to 13.0.1. 
The only change they made was an "empty commit" 
(a technical term for a commit in version control that doesn't
actually change any code) to generate a new, unique version code. 

The Result:
This allowed them to successfully publish the app to Google Play.

Only about 2% of the posters to Usenet actually add any value.

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#148534

On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
>>> On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
>>> <<--deleted-->>
>>>>
>>>> *OT*
>>>
>>> Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.
>>
>> I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.
>>
> 
> But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had 
> to say. That is not polite to us.

After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
Arrow".



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#148535

On 2025-05-20 22:53, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>> On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
>>>> <<--deleted-->>
>>>>>
>>>>> *OT*
>>>>
>>>> Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.
>>>
>>> I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.
>>>
>>
>> But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
>> to say. That is not polite to us.
> 
> After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
> Arrow".
> 
> 
> 
After so many years, you should have learned manners.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.

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#148538

On 20.05.25 22:57, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2025-05-20 22:53, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>>> On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
>>>>> <<--deleted-->>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *OT*
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.
>>>>
>>>> I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
>>> to say. That is not polite to us.
>>
>> After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
>> Arrow".
>>
>>
>>
> After so many years, you should have learned manners.

Mine are definitely more sophisticated than yours ... ;-)


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#148536

On 2025-05-20 22:53, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>> On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
>>>> <<--deleted-->>
>>>>>
>>>>> *OT*
>>>>
>>>> Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.
>>>
>>> I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.
>>>
>>
>> But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
>> to say. That is not polite to us.
> 
> After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
> Arrow".

I don't have any key labelled "Command"

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.

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#148539

On 20.05.25 22:58, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2025-05-20 22:53, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>>> On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
>>>>> <<--deleted-->>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *OT*
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.
>>>>
>>>> I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
>>> to say. That is not polite to us.
>>
>> After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
>> Arrow".
> 
> I don't have any key labelled "Command"

I obviously overestimated your sophistication in computing. Sorry for that!


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#148540

On Tue, 20 May 2025 22:58:57 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote :


>>>>> Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.
>>>>
>>>> I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
>>> to say. That is not polite to us.
>> 
>> After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
>> Arrow".
> 
> I don't have any key labelled "Command"

Hi Carlos,

To understand the esteemed Professor Lorenz, you have to realize how
incredibly ignorant he is. Only then can we possibly understand him.

I understood him. 
a. He's using an Apple Mac
b. Which has a command key on its keyboard
c. He's using Thunderbird

To understand Professor Lorenz, you have to realize he actually believes
everyone on the planet uses an Apple keyboard (which has a command key).

He's that shockingly stupid.

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#148569

On 2025-05-21 06:02, Marion wrote:
> On Tue, 20 May 2025 22:58:57 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote :
> 
> 
>>>>>> Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
>>>> to say. That is not polite to us.
>>>
>>> After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
>>> Arrow".
>>
>> I don't have any key labelled "Command"
> 
> Hi Carlos,
> 
> To understand the esteemed Professor Lorenz, you have to realize how
> incredibly ignorant he is. Only then can we possibly understand him.
> 
> I understood him.
> a. He's using an Apple Mac
> b. Which has a command key on its keyboard
> c. He's using Thunderbird
> 
> To understand Professor Lorenz, you have to realize he actually believes
> everyone on the planet uses an Apple keyboard (which has a command key).
> 
> He's that shockingly stupid.

Well, thank you.

But as Frank points out, one can not shortcut to the end of the post, 
because one doesn't know if there will be inserted text somewhere.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.

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#148570

On Thu, 22 May 2025 11:48:25 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote :


> But as Frank points out, one can not shortcut to the end of the post, 
> because one doesn't know if there will be inserted text somewhere.

Well, given the esteemed Professor Lorenz spends all of two seconds per
post, I'm sure each of us can find something different wrong with them.

It's a pain for me to plonk someone, given I have to write scripts to do
it, but I've gone to that trouble for Joerg as he's never added value.

His posts subtract value.

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#148550

Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> >> On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> >>>> On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
> >>> <<--deleted-->>
> >>>>
> >>>> *OT*
> >>>
> >>> Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.
> >>
> >> I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.
> > 
> > But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had 
> > to say. That is not polite to us.
> 
> After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
> Arrow".

  Non-'solution', because no one knows (read: *can* know) in advance
whether or not you did respond inline, i.e. somewhere in the quoted
part.

Q. What's worse than top-posting.
A. Bottom-posting.

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#148566

On 2025-05-21 19:52, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>> On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>>> On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
>>>>> <<--deleted-->>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *OT*
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.
>>>>
>>>> I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.
>>>
>>> But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
>>> to say. That is not polite to us.
>>
>> After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
>> Arrow".
> 
>    Non-'solution', because no one knows (read: *can* know) in advance
> whether or not you did respond inline, i.e. somewhere in the quoted
> part.

Indeed.

> 
> Q. What's worse than top-posting.
> A. Bottom-posting.


-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.

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#148602

On 22.05.25 11:16, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2025-05-21 19:52, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>> On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>> On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>>>> On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
>>>>>> <<--deleted-->>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *OT*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.
>>>>
>>>> But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
>>>> to say. That is not polite to us.
>>>
>>> After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
>>> Arrow".
>>
>>    Non-'solution', because no one knows (read: *can* know) in advance
>> whether or not you did respond inline, i.e. somewhere in the quoted
>> part.
> 
> Indeed.

The Troll Slootweg in his epic arrogance and stupidity does not
understand the message behind it. But that is no news.

Sad is that this also applies to you, Carlos.


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#148606

Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2025-05-21 19:52, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> >> On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> >>> On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> >>>> On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> >>>>>> On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
> >>>>> <<--deleted-->>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *OT*
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.
> >>>>
> >>>> I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.
> >>>
> >>> But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
> >>> to say. That is not polite to us.
> >>
> >> After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
> >> Arrow".
> > 
> >    Non-'solution', because no one knows (read: *can* know) in advance
> > whether or not you did respond inline, i.e. somewhere in the quoted
> > part.
> 
> Indeed.

  AFAICT, ""Command"+"Right Arrow" isn't listed in the list:

'Keyboard shortcuts - perform common Thunderbird tasks quickly'
<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-thunderbird>

  So it's anyone's guess what that key-combination is supposed to do,
not to mention - as 'Arlen' explained - that a normal keyboard doesn't
have a "Command" key and - adding insult to injury - that people like
'arrogant and stupid' "Troll Slootweg", don't use Thunderbird, but The
Ideal Newsreader.

> > Q. What's worse than top-posting.
> > A. Bottom-posting.

  And *that* is still true.

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