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How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?

Started byMarion <marion@facts.com>
First post2025-04-16 06:12 +0000
Last post2025-08-20 14:37 +0000
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  How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-16 06:12 +0000
    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 06:35 +0000
      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-16 07:44 +0000
        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-16 12:58 +0100
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-16 13:02 +0100
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 11:25 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 19:38 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-17 21:47 +0200
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 19:58 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:28 -0700
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 22:44 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 22:53 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:55 -0700
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-18 01:16 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-24 23:14 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-24 18:47 -0700
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-25 05:50 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 06:42 +0000
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-25 15:25 +0000
                            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 16:52 +0000
                              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 18:34 +0000
                                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 19:28 +0000
                                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 20:35 +0000
                                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 21:57 +0000
                                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 22:23 +0000
                                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-25 17:30 -0500
                                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 22:35 +0000
                                            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-25 18:15 -0500
                                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-25 17:32 -0500
                                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-25 22:53 -0700
                              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-26 08:36 +0000
                                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-26 09:22 +0000
                                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-26 20:37 +0000
                                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-26 22:20 +0000
                                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 22:51 +0000
                                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-28 00:15 +0000
                                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 11:03 +0000
                                            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-28 12:36 +0000
                                              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-28 09:32 -0400
                                                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-28 20:11 +0000
                                              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 20:59 +0000
                                                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-29 02:16 +0000
                                                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-29 03:33 +0000
                                                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-29 09:48 -0700
                                                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 07:37 +0000
                                                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-29 17:54 +0000
                                                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-29 11:34 -0700
                                                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 22:14 +0000
                                                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:53 -0500
                                                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-30 01:01 +0000
                                                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-30 00:48 +0000
                                                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-30 07:56 +0000
                                                            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-30 11:16 -0700
                                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-29 09:43 -0700
                                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2025-04-29 20:28 +0200
                                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-29 12:11 -0700
                                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2025-04-30 01:09 +0200
                                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-29 16:56 -0700
                                            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2025-04-30 03:07 +0200
                                              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-29 18:10 -0700
                                                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2025-04-30 06:12 +0200
                                                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-29 21:40 -0700
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 18:16 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 13:20 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:42 -0700
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 18:21 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 12:46 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 17:07 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:31 -0700
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 11:12 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:32 -0700
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:29 -0700
        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 10:52 -0700
        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 18:58 +0000
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 19:08 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 12:19 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 17:03 +0000
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 15:15 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 19:29 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-18 00:34 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 17:48 -0700
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-18 02:17 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:35 -0700
      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-16 14:22 +0000
        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 10:54 -0700
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-16 19:11 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 19:43 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 13:11 -0700
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-16 22:51 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 00:44 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 10:52 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 17:02 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 15:38 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 15:46 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-22 16:05 +0000
        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 22:00 +0000
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-16 23:19 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 00:57 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 06:04 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 23:45 -0700
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 12:43 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 12:43 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 15:26 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 15:26 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-24 18:57 +0200
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-24 10:18 -0700
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-25 17:10 +0200
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-25 15:38 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 17:06 +0000
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-27 20:14 +0200
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 16:00 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-27 20:15 +0200
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-25 19:18 -0700
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-24 17:45 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-25 17:11 +0200
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 16:02 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-16 18:56 -0700
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 05:58 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 11:05 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?  They use standard SMB of course.   (was: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 13:45 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?  They use standard SMB of course. Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 14:34 +0000
                    Video showing Arlen is an ignorant liar (was Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? They use standard SMB of course. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:05 -0700
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 01:16 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 01:31 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-19 01:39 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-19 22:38 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-19 16:53 -0700
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-19 22:54 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-20 18:10 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 02:21 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-17 07:49 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 13:48 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 14:27 +0000
        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-17 17:57 +0000
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 18:03 +0000
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-18 04:25 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-18 10:20 -0700
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-18 18:35 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-18 16:16 -0700
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-19 01:21 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-18 19:27 -0700
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-22 03:44 +0200
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 02:06 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-24 19:00 +0200
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-24 10:04 -0700
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-25 17:13 +0200
                            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-25 19:19 -0700
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-24 17:47 +0000
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-25 17:14 +0200
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-24 23:54 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? John  Gardner <usenet@gardner.host> - 2025-05-14 11:01 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-22 07:25 +0200
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 15:27 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-24 19:02 +0200
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-24 10:16 -0700
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 18:52 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-24 23:54 +0000
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-25 15:13 +0000
                            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-25 17:33 +0200
                              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 20:11 +0200
                                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-25 18:41 +0000
                                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-27 20:18 +0200
                                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-27 19:56 +0000
                                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-27 20:28 +0000
                                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-25 19:20 -0700
                                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-26 04:23 +0000
                                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-26 19:41 +0200
                                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-26 19:16 +0000
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-25 17:15 +0200
                            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-25 19:21 -0700
                              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-27 20:19 +0200
                                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-29 09:49 -0700
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-19 10:22 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 02:05 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-22 18:01 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-22 12:47 -0700
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-22 20:13 +0000
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-22 18:05 -0500
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-23 13:33 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-23 13:51 +0000
          Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank... (was: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 20:39 +0000
            Re: Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank... (was: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 21:12 +0000
              Re: Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank... Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-17 21:35 +0000
                Re: Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 21:47 +0000
                  Re: Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank... Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-17 15:05 -0700
                    Re: Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-17 22:11 +0000
    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-18 11:56 +0200
      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-18 12:04 +0200
        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 02:08 +0000
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-24 19:04 +0200
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-24 17:35 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-24 14:59 -0500
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-24 21:03 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-24 17:13 -0500
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 05:29 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-24 14:29 -0700
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-24 17:09 -0500
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-24 15:53 -0700
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-24 18:32 -0500
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-24 18:48 -0700
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 05:29 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> - 2025-04-25 06:47 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-25 07:03 -0700
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 15:56 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-25 17:17 +0200
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-25 15:50 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 17:16 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-25 18:11 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 19:45 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-26 19:48 +0200
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-26 18:51 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-27 20:21 +0200
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-27 19:31 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-27 20:45 +0000
                        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-27 22:01 +0000
                          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-27 22:55 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-27 23:58 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 16:11 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-25 18:29 +0000
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-26 09:40 +0000
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-26 14:36 +0000
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-25 22:51 -0700
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-04-24 21:31 +0200
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-24 22:34 +0200
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-24 23:39 +0200
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-04-25 00:01 +0200
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 02:09 +0200
                    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-04-25 10:37 +0200
                      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 13:21 +0200
                        Re: ftp or sftp server [Was: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 15:43 +0200
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 00:21 +0000
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-04-25 10:18 +0200
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-25 07:05 -0700
                  Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 18:10 +0000
    Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-22 16:14 +0000
      Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-25 17:20 +0200
        Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 18:51 +0000
          Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-27 20:23 +0200
            Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-15 03:16 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-08-20 15:36 +0200
                Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-22 02:23 +0000
              Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-20 14:37 +0000

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#148143

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2025-04-25 18:41 +0000
Message-ID<vugs1m.11m4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#148140
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2025-04-25 17:33, Arno Welzel wrote:
[...]
> > I stand corrected, if iOS allows user installable apps without any
> > special permission using ports below 1024 as server. I was just not
> > aware of that and did not expect this, since Android does not allow that
> > like any Linux based systems. But iOS is not Linux based and of course
> > it may be that Apple decided to handle that in a different way.
> 
> iOS an unixoid system inside. It is based on Darwin, which is an 
> open-source Unix-like operating system developed by Apple. It should 
> have the same limitation binding to ports below 1024 for user apps. That 
> it doesn't is interesting.

  Indeed both iOS and Android are an unixoid system inside. But as both
don't have a root-user concept available for the user, they have to
handle root-capability in some way. Apparently Apple has chosen to give
the user *this* (binding to ports below 1024) root-capability, while
Google has chosen not to do so.

  IMO, the 'no-root' philosophy of Android (and iOS?) is broken from the
start. I can't access my files in Android\data etc.? I can't run a
server on a <1024 port? Etc., etc.. But I *can* (f.e. Samsung) unlock
the bootloader and blow everything to bits!?

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#148192

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2025-04-27 20:18 +0200
Message-ID<m77ankFkbe1U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#148143
Frank Slootweg, 2025-04-25 20:41:

[...]
>   IMO, the 'no-root' philosophy of Android (and iOS?) is broken from the
> start. I can't access my files in Android\data etc.? I can't run a
> server on a <1024 port? Etc., etc.. But I *can* (f.e. Samsung) unlock
> the bootloader and blow everything to bits!?

Yes - because unlocking the bootlader is not possible without wiping the
device. So no risk of getting access to data for an attacker. Also this
requires understanding how to install ADB and how to enter fast boot
mode on the device and so on...


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#148197

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2025-04-27 19:56 +0000
Message-ID<vum96d.lfc.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#148192
Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg, 2025-04-25 20:41:
> 
> [...]
> >   IMO, the 'no-root' philosophy of Android (and iOS?) is broken from the
> > start. I can't access my files in Android\data etc.? I can't run a
> > server on a <1024 port? Etc., etc.. But I *can* (f.e. Samsung) unlock
> > the bootloader and blow everything to bits!?
> 
> Yes - because unlocking the bootlader is not possible without wiping the
> device. So no risk of getting access to data for an attacker. Also this
> requires understanding how to install ADB and how to enter fast boot
> mode on the device and so on...

  Yes, I thought the same, unlocking bootloader wipes the device,
because that was for example the case for my Huawei phone (in
preparation of installing TWRP and later Lineage OS).

  However, someone in comp.mobile.android pointed out that (non-US)
Samsung phones have a bootloader unlock switch in the 'Developer
options' and indeed my Samsung (Galaxy A51) has such a switch, without
any comments that it will wipe the device.

  However, now I'm reading it again, the wording of the off/on switch is
a bit vague:

"OEM unlocking
 Allow the bootloader to be unlocked	<off/on switch>"

  It says it *allows* the bootloader *to be* unlocked, not that
switching the switch to on will *actually unlock* the bootloader.

  So in hindsight, I think the switch only allows the bootloader to be
unlocked (by whatever additional means/process) and will not actually
unlock it.

  Anyway, I'm not going to set the switch to on to see what will happen
or/and there will be further information/warnings.

  Bottom line: I withdraw the last sentence of my criticism, but the
rest, especially the "Etc., etc.." bit :-), still stands.

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#148198

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-04-27 20:28 +0000
Message-ID<vum40r$1jat$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#148197
On 27 Apr 2025 19:56:36 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote :


>   However, someone in comp.mobile.android pointed out that (non-US)
> Samsung phones have a bootloader unlock switch in the 'Developer
> options' and indeed my Samsung (Galaxy A51) has such a switch, without
> any comments that it will wipe the device.

Again I agree that Frank brings up a good point, in that I ran SuperSU (as
I recall) many moons ago on my Samsung Galaxy S3, and, I do think I've seen
that non-US A325G versions (mine is a US version) can unlock the booloader.

Even my bootloader version would have been able to be rooted had it
remained at subversions below around 3 or 4 or 5 (I don't recall the exact
cutoff), but mine have steadily been updated from that to 6,7,8,9,A,B...
until it's now at H.

Note I have a thread on XDA Developers will all the gory details; but my
point is even USA bootloaders used to be unlockable - but, alas no more.

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#148156

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-04-25 19:20 -0700
Message-ID<vuhftv$1ebij$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#148140
On 2025-04-25 11:11, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-04-25 17:33, Arno Welzel wrote:
>> Frank Slootweg, 2025-04-25 17:13:
>>
>>> Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 24, 2025 at 1:02:33?PM EDT, "Arno Welzel" 
>>>> <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> Correct - iOS also does not allow using ports below 1024 for *servers*
>>>>> implemented in user installable apps without privileged access.
>>>>
>>>> Oh look.  Arlen has Y.A.S.P.  That's so cute.
>>>
>>>    Arno Welzel isn't 'Arlen'. As Chris also mentioned, Arno came (too)
>>> late to the thread and apparently has not been following the thread, so
>>> he was not aware that iOS *can* use servers on ports below 1024.
>>>
>>>    AFAICT from the comments from You Guys (TM), Arno's comment on "user
>>> installable apps" is incorrect, because AFAIK the iOS SMB server used
>>> ('LAN Drive Samba server') *is* an user-installable app. Correct?
>>> What about his "apps without privileged access" comment?
>>
>> I stand corrected, if iOS allows user installable apps without any
>> special permission using ports below 1024 as server. I was just not
>> aware of that and did not expect this, since Android does not allow that
>> like any Linux based systems. But iOS is not Linux based and of course
>> it may be that Apple decided to handle that in a different way.
> 
> iOS an unixoid system inside. It is based on Darwin, which is an open- 
> source Unix-like operating system developed by Apple. It should have the 
> same limitation binding to ports below 1024 for user apps. That it 
> doesn't is interesting.
> 

Not really.

It's not like the restriction on "privileged ports" is baked into the 
kernel...

...and even if it were, it could be unbaked.

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#148158

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2025-04-26 04:23 +0000
Message-ID<m735d6FufctU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#148156
On 2025-04-26, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2025-04-25 11:11, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-04-25 17:33, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> Frank Slootweg, 2025-04-25 17:13:
>>>
>>>> Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 24, 2025 at 1:02:33?PM EDT, "Arno Welzel" 
>>>>> <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>>>> Correct - iOS also does not allow using ports below 1024 for *servers*
>>>>>> implemented in user installable apps without privileged access.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh look.  Arlen has Y.A.S.P.  That's so cute.
>>>>
>>>>    Arno Welzel isn't 'Arlen'. As Chris also mentioned, Arno came (too)
>>>> late to the thread and apparently has not been following the thread, so
>>>> he was not aware that iOS *can* use servers on ports below 1024.
>>>>
>>>>    AFAICT from the comments from You Guys (TM), Arno's comment on "user
>>>> installable apps" is incorrect, because AFAIK the iOS SMB server used
>>>> ('LAN Drive Samba server') *is* an user-installable app. Correct?
>>>> What about his "apps without privileged access" comment?
>>>
>>> I stand corrected, if iOS allows user installable apps without any
>>> special permission using ports below 1024 as server. I was just not
>>> aware of that and did not expect this, since Android does not allow that
>>> like any Linux based systems. But iOS is not Linux based and of course
>>> it may be that Apple decided to handle that in a different way.
>> 
>> iOS an unixoid system inside. It is based on Darwin, which is an open- 
>> source Unix-like operating system developed by Apple. It should have the 
>> same limitation binding to ports below 1024 for user apps. That it 
>> doesn't is interesting.
>
> Not really.
>
> It's not like the restriction on "privileged ports" is baked into the 
> kernel...
>
> ...and even if it were, it could be unbaked.

Exactly. It's really not the big deal they think it is.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#148166

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-04-26 19:41 +0200
Message-ID<8fivdlxbkj.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#148158
On 2025-04-26 06:23, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2025-04-26, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2025-04-25 11:11, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-04-25 17:33, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>>> Frank Slootweg, 2025-04-25 17:13:
>>>>
>>>>> Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2025 at 1:02:33?PM EDT, "Arno Welzel"
>>>>>> <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> Correct - iOS also does not allow using ports below 1024 for *servers*
>>>>>>> implemented in user installable apps without privileged access.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh look.  Arlen has Y.A.S.P.  That's so cute.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Arno Welzel isn't 'Arlen'. As Chris also mentioned, Arno came (too)
>>>>> late to the thread and apparently has not been following the thread, so
>>>>> he was not aware that iOS *can* use servers on ports below 1024.
>>>>>
>>>>>     AFAICT from the comments from You Guys (TM), Arno's comment on "user
>>>>> installable apps" is incorrect, because AFAIK the iOS SMB server used
>>>>> ('LAN Drive Samba server') *is* an user-installable app. Correct?
>>>>> What about his "apps without privileged access" comment?
>>>>
>>>> I stand corrected, if iOS allows user installable apps without any
>>>> special permission using ports below 1024 as server. I was just not
>>>> aware of that and did not expect this, since Android does not allow that
>>>> like any Linux based systems. But iOS is not Linux based and of course
>>>> it may be that Apple decided to handle that in a different way.
>>>
>>> iOS an unixoid system inside. It is based on Darwin, which is an open-
>>> source Unix-like operating system developed by Apple. It should have the
>>> same limitation binding to ports below 1024 for user apps. That it
>>> doesn't is interesting.
>>
>> Not really.
>>
>> It's not like the restriction on "privileged ports" is baked into the
>> kernel...
>>
>> ...and even if it were, it could be unbaked.
> 
> Exactly. It's really not the big deal they think it is.

To me, it is interesting that it was unbaked, or however it was done.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#148169

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2025-04-26 19:16 +0000
Message-ID<m74pnhF82s1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#148166
On 2025-04-26, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2025-04-26 06:23, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2025-04-26, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2025-04-25 11:11, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-04-25 17:33, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>>>> Frank Slootweg, 2025-04-25 17:13:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2025 at 1:02:33?PM EDT, "Arno Welzel"
>>>>>>> <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>> Correct - iOS also does not allow using ports below 1024 for *servers*
>>>>>>>> implemented in user installable apps without privileged access.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh look.  Arlen has Y.A.S.P.  That's so cute.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Arno Welzel isn't 'Arlen'. As Chris also mentioned, Arno came (too)
>>>>>> late to the thread and apparently has not been following the thread, so
>>>>>> he was not aware that iOS *can* use servers on ports below 1024.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     AFAICT from the comments from You Guys (TM), Arno's comment on "user
>>>>>> installable apps" is incorrect, because AFAIK the iOS SMB server used
>>>>>> ('LAN Drive Samba server') *is* an user-installable app. Correct?
>>>>>> What about his "apps without privileged access" comment?
>>>>>
>>>>> I stand corrected, if iOS allows user installable apps without any
>>>>> special permission using ports below 1024 as server. I was just not
>>>>> aware of that and did not expect this, since Android does not allow that
>>>>> like any Linux based systems. But iOS is not Linux based and of course
>>>>> it may be that Apple decided to handle that in a different way.
>>>>
>>>> iOS an unixoid system inside. It is based on Darwin, which is an open-
>>>> source Unix-like operating system developed by Apple. It should have the
>>>> same limitation binding to ports below 1024 for user apps. That it
>>>> doesn't is interesting.
>>>
>>> Not really.
>>>
>>> It's not like the restriction on "privileged ports" is baked into the
>>> kernel...
>>>
>>> ...and even if it were, it could be unbaked.
>> 
>> Exactly. It's really not the big deal they think it is.
>
> To me, it is interesting that it was unbaked, or however it was done.

There's nothing to "unbake". There's no magic involved. It's just a policy.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#148123

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2025-04-25 17:15 +0200
Message-ID<m71n8jFneshU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#148096
Tyrone, 2025-04-25 01:54:

> On Apr 24, 2025 at 1:02:33 PM EDT, "Arno Welzel" <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
[...]
>> Correct - iOS also does not allow using ports below 1024 for *servers*
>> implemented in user installable apps without privileged access.
> 
> Oh look.  Arlen has Y.A.S.P.  That's so cute.

What is a "Y.A.S.P."?

Well - I stand corrected - so what?


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#148157

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-04-25 19:21 -0700
Message-ID<vuhfvm$1ebij$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#148123
On 2025-04-25 08:15, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Tyrone, 2025-04-25 01:54:
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2025 at 1:02:33 PM EDT, "Arno Welzel" <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
> [...]
>>> Correct - iOS also does not allow using ports below 1024 for *servers*
>>> implemented in user installable apps without privileged access.
>>
>> Oh look.  Arlen has Y.A.S.P.  That's so cute.
> 
> What is a "Y.A.S.P."?
> 
> Well - I stand corrected - so what?
> 
> 

So you acted like an ass before finally realizing you were wrong.

Try a little more humility next time.

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#148193

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2025-04-27 20:19 +0200
Message-ID<m77aptFkbe1U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#148157
Alan, 2025-04-26 04:21:

> On 2025-04-25 08:15, Arno Welzel wrote:
>> Tyrone, 2025-04-25 01:54:
>>
>>> On Apr 24, 2025 at 1:02:33 PM EDT, "Arno Welzel" <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> Correct - iOS also does not allow using ports below 1024 for *servers*
>>>> implemented in user installable apps without privileged access.
>>>
>>> Oh look.  Arlen has Y.A.S.P.  That's so cute.
>>
>> What is a "Y.A.S.P."?
>>
>> Well - I stand corrected - so what?
>>
>>
> 
> So you acted like an ass before finally realizing you were wrong.

Huh? Why do you say that I "acted like an ass"?

> Try a little more humility next time.

I do - all the time. I never call anyone an idiot or a troll.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#148244

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-04-29 09:49 -0700
Message-ID<vuqvv9$2763q$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#148193
On 2025-04-27 11:19, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Alan, 2025-04-26 04:21:
> 
>> On 2025-04-25 08:15, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> Tyrone, 2025-04-25 01:54:
>>>
>>>> On Apr 24, 2025 at 1:02:33 PM EDT, "Arno Welzel" <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> Correct - iOS also does not allow using ports below 1024 for *servers*
>>>>> implemented in user installable apps without privileged access.
>>>>
>>>> Oh look.  Arlen has Y.A.S.P.  That's so cute.
>>>
>>> What is a "Y.A.S.P."?
>>>
>>> Well - I stand corrected - so what?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> So you acted like an ass before finally realizing you were wrong.
> 
> Huh? Why do you say that I "acted like an ass"?

Because you came in in the middle of a thread and didn't read.

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#147963

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2025-04-19 10:22 +0000
Message-ID<vu04gr.ocg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#147955
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
> On Apr 18, 2025 at 12:25:07?AM EDT, "Marion" <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> 
> > If someone can explain why "net use Z:" mounts Android as a Windows drive
> > letter when I use a WebDav server on Android, but the same command doesn't
> > mount Android as a drive letter when I use SMB, I'd love to know why.
> 
> Because there is no SMB (port 445) server running on Android. Android does not
> allow anyone to use port 445 for servers.  iOS does. WebDav is using port
> 8080.  That's why it works on Android.

['Arlen' messed up his References:, which caused his post to get
filtered. Probably for the best, considering his insults and phoney
compliments, but al.howardknight.net came to the 'rescue'.]

  I have little experience with 'net use', but can't 'Arlen' just use
the '/tcpport:NNNN' option and set it to the - 1024 or higher - port
number of the Android SMB server?

  That way, the Android SMB server would not be a Network *Share* that
Windows could see/use, but it would be a Network *Drive* for Windows.

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#148004

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-04-22 02:05 +0000
Message-ID<vu6ti0$cqn$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#147963
On 19 Apr 2025 10:22:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote :


>  just use the '/tcpport:NNNN' option and set it to the 
> 1024 or higher port number of the Android SMB server?
> 
>   That way, the Android SMB server would not be a Network *Share* that
> Windows could see/use, but it would be a Network *Drive* for Windows.

I'm not a networking expert, but from what Tyrone told me... that's a
Windows 11-only command (to set the port at the time of using "net use").

Most of my Windows PC's are Windows 10, which does not have the
'/tcpport:NNNN' option for 'net use' that Tyrone kindly had suggested.

Tyrone is aware of this limitation, so if it does work, it can only work on
Windows 11 mounts, & not Windows 10 (at least not using "net use" for it).

Still, if the SMB share shows up as a drive letter in the Windows command
line, why can't it show up as a drive letter in the Windows file explorer?

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#148029

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2025-04-22 18:01 +0000
Message-ID<vu8sif.10a0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#148004
Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On 19 Apr 2025 10:22:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote :
> 
> 
> >  just use the '/tcpport:NNNN' option and set it to the 
> > 1024 or higher port number of the Android SMB server?
> > 
> >   That way, the Android SMB server would not be a Network *Share* that
> > Windows could see/use, but it would be a Network *Drive* for Windows.
> 
> I'm not a networking expert, but from what Tyrone told me... that's a
> Windows 11-only command (to set the port at the time of using "net use").

  Yes, I saw that later. I checked only on my Windows 11 system. But
indeed, my wife's Windows 10 system doesn't have the '/tcpport:NNNN'
option. Well, after October 14, Windows 10 is no longer supported
anyway!  (Just kidding.)

> Most of my Windows PC's are Windows 10, which does not have the
> '/tcpport:NNNN' option for 'net use' that Tyrone kindly had suggested.
>
> Tyrone is aware of this limitation, so if it does work, it can only work on
> Windows 11 mounts, & not Windows 10 (at least not using "net use" for it).

  Long shot: You might try to copy the net.exe executable from a Windows
11 system to a Windows 10 system (while giving it another name) and see
if the '/tcpport:NNNN' option works on Windows 10, i.e. that the Windows
10 limitation is in the net.exe, not in the underlying OS.
N.B. net.exe is in %windir%\system32. 

> Still, if the SMB share shows up as a drive letter in the Windows command
> line, why can't it show up as a drive letter in the Windows file explorer?

  No idea. It should show in both. Try to get a full path to some folder
on the network drive and paste that path into the path field of File
Explorer, i.e. something like  Z:\topfolder\subfolder. Even if File
Explorer does not *show* Z: for some strange reason, it should be able
to *use* it (if it can be used in a Command Prompt window).

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#148030

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-04-22 12:47 -0700
Message-ID<vu8rp5$196cb$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#148029
On 2025-04-22 11:01, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
>> On 19 Apr 2025 10:22:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote :
>>
>>
>>>   just use the '/tcpport:NNNN' option and set it to the
>>> 1024 or higher port number of the Android SMB server?
>>>
>>>    That way, the Android SMB server would not be a Network *Share* that
>>> Windows could see/use, but it would be a Network *Drive* for Windows.
>>
>> I'm not a networking expert, but from what Tyrone told me... that's a
>> Windows 11-only command (to set the port at the time of using "net use").
> 
>    Yes, I saw that later. I checked only on my Windows 11 system. But
> indeed, my wife's Windows 10 system doesn't have the '/tcpport:NNNN'
> option. Well, after October 14, Windows 10 is no longer supported
> anyway!  (Just kidding.)
> 
>> Most of my Windows PC's are Windows 10, which does not have the
>> '/tcpport:NNNN' option for 'net use' that Tyrone kindly had suggested.
>>
>> Tyrone is aware of this limitation, so if it does work, it can only work on
>> Windows 11 mounts, & not Windows 10 (at least not using "net use" for it).
> 
>    Long shot: You might try to copy the net.exe executable from a Windows
> 11 system to a Windows 10 system (while giving it another name) and see
> if the '/tcpport:NNNN' option works on Windows 10, i.e. that the Windows
> 10 limitation is in the net.exe, not in the underlying OS.
> N.B. net.exe is in %windir%\system32.
> 
>> Still, if the SMB share shows up as a drive letter in the Windows command
>> line, why can't it show up as a drive letter in the Windows file explorer?
> 
>    No idea. It should show in both. Try to get a full path to some folder
> on the network drive and paste that path into the path field of File
> Explorer, i.e. something like  Z:\topfolder\subfolder. Even if File
> Explorer does not *show* Z: for some strange reason, it should be able
> to *use* it (if it can be used in a Command Prompt window).

He's either lying or utterly incompetent...

..because it DOES show in File Explorer.

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#148031

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-04-22 20:13 +0000
Message-ID<n4WdnRUJQ9PkZZr1nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#148030
On Apr 22, 2025 at 3:47:49 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> He's either lying or utterly incompetent...

My money is on "lying AND utterly incompetent". 

> ..because it DOES show in File Explorer.

Of course it does.  It always has.  For over 30 years. 

I think he simply can not accept that iOS can do something that Android can't
do.  So he is saying that connecting to Android creates a drive letter but
connecting to iOS does not. 

Which is the lying part.

As if the Server you are connecting to has any bearing on how the Client
displays the share. 

Which is the utterly incompetent part.

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#148040

FromHank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
Date2025-04-22 18:05 -0500
Message-ID<vu97bc$1k3ok$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#148031
Tyrone wrote on 4/22/2025 3:13 PM:
> On Apr 22, 2025 at 3:47:49 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>> He's either lying or utterly incompetent...
> 
> My money is on "lying AND utterly incompetent".
> 
>> ..because it DOES show in File Explorer.
> 
> Of course it does.  It always has.  For over 30 years.
> 
> I think he simply can not accept that iOS can do something that Android can't
> do.  So he is saying that connecting to Android creates a drive letter but
> connecting to iOS does not.
> 
> Which is the lying part.
> 
> As if the Server you are connecting to has any bearing on how the Client
> displays the share.
> 
> Which is the utterly incompetent part.
> 

Indeed.  Why do so many people tell outrageous lies about apple software?

It's a damn shame.  They should all be deported!

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#148042

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2025-04-23 13:33 +0000
Message-ID<vub18s.uik.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#148031
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
> On Apr 22, 2025 at 3:47:49?PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
> > He's either lying or utterly incompetent...
> 
> My money is on "lying AND utterly incompetent". 
> 
> > ..because it DOES show in File Explorer.
> 
> Of course it does.  It always has.  For over 30 years. 
> 
> I think he simply can not accept that iOS can do something that Android can't
> do.  So he is saying that connecting to Android creates a drive letter but
> connecting to iOS does not. 
> 
> Which is the lying part.

  Well, the jury is still out on that one.

  Considering the context, he's saying the *opposite*:

<quote>
Still, if the SMB share shows up as a drive letter in the Windows command
line, why can't it show up as a drive letter in the Windows file explorer?
</quote>

  That was is response to my *Android* context:

<quote>
  just use the '/tcpport:NNNN' option and set it to the
1024 or higher port number of the Android SMB server?
</quote>

  For the full context, see

Message-ID: <vu6ti0$cqn$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

  In that post, there's no mention of iOS, etc., just Android.

  Also note that he says there *is* "a drive letter in the Windows command
line", but not in "Windows file explorer".

> As if the Server you are connecting to has any bearing on how the Client
> displays the share. 
> 
> Which is the utterly incompetent part.

  <firmly sitting on hands>

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#148043

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2025-04-23 13:51 +0000
Message-ID<vub2aa.1010.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#148030
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2025-04-22 11:01, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> >> On 19 Apr 2025 10:22:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote :
> >>
> >>>   just use the '/tcpport:NNNN' option and set it to the
> >>> 1024 or higher port number of the Android SMB server?

  Note *Android*, not iOS.

[...]

> >> Still, if the SMB share shows up as a drive letter in the Windows command
> >> line, why can't it show up as a drive letter in the Windows file explorer?
> > 
> >    No idea. It should show in both. Try to get a full path to some folder
> > on the network drive and paste that path into the path field of File
> > Explorer, i.e. something like  Z:\topfolder\subfolder. Even if File
> > Explorer does not *show* Z: for some strange reason, it should be able
> > to *use* it (if it can be used in a Command Prompt window).
> 
> He's either lying or utterly incompetent...
> 
> ..because it DOES show in File Explorer.

  Perhaps he has some weird File Explorer setting.
  
  For kicks I had a look at the Folder Options 'View' settings (on
Windows 11) and there is a 'Show drive letters' setting. If that's
unticked, it indeed doesn't show drive letters, but should display
*something else* about the drive.  For example 'c(\\COMPUTER)' instead
of c(\\COMPUTER) (Z:)'.

  There's also a (default ticked) 'Hide empty drives' settings, but I
don't see how a Network Drive could be considered 'empty' (unless it
exists, but is not connected?).

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