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| Started by | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| First post | 2024-07-06 22:35 +0200 |
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Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-06 22:35 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-06 21:40 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-06 23:47 +0100
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-06 23:34 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-07 13:02 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-07 13:43 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-07 09:23 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-07-07 20:51 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-07 11:55 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-07 18:58 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-07 12:02 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-08 20:38 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-12 15:41 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-12 21:48 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-12 15:39 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-14 15:25 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-15 13:03 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-15 08:35 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-20 16:38 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-20 16:26 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-20 11:29 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-21 13:53 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-21 13:49 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-23 09:46 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-23 17:26 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-26 17:23 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-26 08:34 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-26 18:11 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-27 03:21 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-27 14:53 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-27 11:46 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-27 19:12 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-27 12:51 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-27 18:46 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-27 18:51 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-27 20:33 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-27 22:24 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-28 19:34 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2024-07-28 22:01 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-29 07:07 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2024-07-29 08:48 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-29 11:47 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-29 13:12 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-29 21:26 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-29 21:48 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-07-29 21:52 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-29 22:15 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-06 19:59 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-08-06 12:11 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-10 10:09 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-08-10 10:49 +0100
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-08-12 12:27 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-08-13 17:18 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-08-13 21:14 +0100
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-08-14 00:29 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-08-14 07:46 +0100
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-08-14 07:54 +0100
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-17 13:18 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-08-19 07:33 +0100
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-19 10:05 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-08-19 16:04 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-19 22:06 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-08-20 01:03 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-20 09:29 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-08-20 16:54 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-21 17:47 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-17 13:14 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-08-12 12:27 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-08-10 14:03 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-08-13 17:15 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-28 08:42 +0100
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-29 11:40 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-29 12:47 +0100
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-06 19:57 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-08-06 19:53 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-08-10 14:07 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-27 11:46 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-07-20 22:29 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-21 00:02 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-20 17:39 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-21 13:55 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-07-21 13:54 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-08 20:44 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-08 13:50 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-09 13:07 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-09 13:16 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-09 09:16 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2024-07-09 18:38 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-09 17:46 +0100
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2024-07-09 18:51 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-09 10:52 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2024-07-10 09:10 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-10 11:41 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2024-07-10 21:05 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-10 13:07 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-09 10:51 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2024-07-10 09:06 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-10 11:44 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-09 22:07 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-10 19:46 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-10 13:09 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-12 15:52 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-12 21:46 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-12 15:37 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-07 18:02 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-08 02:58 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-08 02:08 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-08 12:42 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-08 09:05 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-08 22:10 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-08 19:55 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-08 13:49 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-08 09:04 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-08 20:48 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-08 11:48 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-07 20:09 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-07 19:12 +0100
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-07 18:51 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-07 11:56 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-07-07 21:04 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-07 20:31 +0000
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-07 14:17 -0700
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-07-07 22:43 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-07-08 16:33 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-07-08 17:35 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Nick Cine <nickcine@is.invalid> - 2024-07-10 12:26 -0600
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-07-08 16:49 +0200
Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-07-08 17:25 +0200
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| From | Andrew <andrew@spam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-07-07 20:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <v6etuh$2k3h$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #142555 |
s|b wrote on Sun, 07 Jul 2024 21:04:22 +0200 : > It's all show. The European Union wants access to our encrypted > messages, supposedly in the fight against kiddie porn. A proposition was > called and they needed 65% for it to vote. 62,3% thought it was a good > idea, so no vote, not yet. They've been talking about this for years and > it's going to happen. > > Signal already said they will leave Europe if this happens, because the > EU's software will break the end-to-end encryption. But Meta and Google? > They'll stay and collect you (meta)data. This is good to know 'cuz the instant you log into an account on Internet servers, your metadata will throw your privacy under the bus.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2024-07-07 14:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <v6f0kn$gac2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #142556 |
On 2024-07-07 13:31, Andrew wrote: > s|b wrote on Sun, 07 Jul 2024 21:04:22 +0200 : > >> It's all show. The European Union wants access to our encrypted >> messages, supposedly in the fight against kiddie porn. A proposition was >> called and they needed 65% for it to vote. 62,3% thought it was a good >> idea, so no vote, not yet. They've been talking about this for years and >> it's going to happen. >> >> Signal already said they will leave Europe if this happens, because the >> EU's software will break the end-to-end encryption. But Meta and Google? >> They'll stay and collect you (meta)data. > > This is good to know 'cuz the instant you log into an account on Internet > servers, your metadata will throw your privacy under the bus. That would depend on what data the account has about you.
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| From | Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2024-07-07 22:43 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <v6eul3$a8jf$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #142555 |
Am 07.07.24 um 21:04 schrieb s|b: > On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:35:26 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > >> * Evidence suggests Google Messages will soon add Messaging Layer >> Security (MLS) support for end-to-end encryption. > > It's all show. The European Union wants access to our encrypted > messages, supposedly in the fight against kiddie porn. A proposition was > called and they needed 65% for it to vote. 62,3% thought it was a good > idea, so no vote, not yet. They've been talking about this for years and > it's going to happen. > > Signal already said they will leave Europe if this happens, because the > EU's software will break the end-to-end encryption. But Meta and Google? > They'll stay and collect you (meta)data. *Everything* utter nonsense. -- "Manus manum lavat."
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-07-08 16:33 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <lf2blbF6mslU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #142557 |
On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 22:43:15 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote: > *Everything* utter nonsense. Don't just throw a one liner at it, debunk it. <https://netzpolitik.org/2024/etappensieg-belgien-scheitert-mit-abstimmung-zur-chatkontrolle/> <https://www.security.nl/posting/846765/EU-voorzitter+Belgi%C3%AB+schrapt+stemming+chatcontrole+wegens+te+weinig+steun> -- s|b
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| From | Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2024-07-08 17:35 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <v6h109$bdf3$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #142568 |
Am 08.07.24 um 17:25 schrieb s|b: > On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 16:49:12 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote: > >> France killed it:They made clear that they only support the legislation >> as long as it does not brake the E2E-encryption. But exactly this would >> happen if the "Chatkontrolle" would be passed. Belgium did not dare to >> hold a vote. It would have killed the legislation forever. And the >> Germans make/made it clear that they will not and cannot for >> constitutional reasons support such a law. > > According to this article Germany killed it; France changed its mind > before. > > <https://tuta.com/blog/germany-stop-chat-control> Wrong. That was before a spokes-person corrected the Swedish Monster https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ylva_Johansson and made clear that Johansson lied about the breakup of the E2E-encryption the whole time. >> And more important: This vote if passed had only started the legislation >> process. > > But you can see it coming from miles away: this is going to happen. Perhaps. -- "Manus manum lavat."
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| From | Nick Cine <nickcine@is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-07-10 12:26 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <v6mjoi$e8sk$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #142579 |
On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 17:35:37 +0200, J�rg Lorenz wrote: > That was before a spokes-person corrected the Swedish Monster Shut up Arlen. Say something useful for once, you fucking moron.
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| From | Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2024-07-08 16:49 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <v6gu99$bdf3$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #142568 |
Am 08.07.24 um 16:33 schrieb s|b: > On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 22:43:15 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote: > >> *Everything* utter nonsense. > > Don't just throw a one liner at it, debunk it. > > <https://netzpolitik.org/2024/etappensieg-belgien-scheitert-mit-abstimmung-zur-chatkontrolle/> > <https://www.security.nl/posting/846765/EU-voorzitter+Belgi%C3%AB+schrapt+stemming+chatcontrole+wegens+te+weinig+steun> France killed it: They made clear that they only support the legislation as long as it does not brake the E2E-encryption. But exactly this would happen if the "Chatkontrolle" would be passed. Belgium did not dare to hold a vote. It would have killed the legislation forever. And the Germans make/made it clear that they will not and cannot for constitutional reasons support such a law. And more important: This vote if passed had only started the legislation process. -- "Manus manum lavat."
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-07-08 17:25 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <lf2emvF75fmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #142580 |
On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 16:49:12 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote: > France killed it:They made clear that they only support the legislation > as long as it does not brake the E2E-encryption. But exactly this would > happen if the "Chatkontrolle" would be passed. Belgium did not dare to > hold a vote. It would have killed the legislation forever. And the > Germans make/made it clear that they will not and cannot for > constitutional reasons support such a law. According to this article Germany killed it; France changed its mind before. <https://tuta.com/blog/germany-stop-chat-control> > And more important: This vote if passed had only started the legislation > process. But you can see it coming from miles away: this is going to happen. -- s|b
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