Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device?

From	"Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no>
Newsgroups	alt.internet.wireless, comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject	Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device?
Date	2015-07-01 04:48 +0000
Organization	albasani.net
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Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device?

My daughter is traveling in Europe with a friend, where my 
daughter has the Nexus 5 while her friend has one of the 
newer iPhones (I don't know which one). Both have iPads also, 
but neither iPad (AFAIK) is picking up cellular. Both 
traveled with a single carryon, so, they have no PCs.

The grandparents are on dialup (they're in their 80's) but
my brother in law lives next door, through thick walls, where
my daughter is reading -90dBM signal strength on InSSIDer 
freeware (installed before InSSIDer started costing $10) 
for the brother-in-laws access point.

They can't connect to WiFi, and it's driving them (typical
American kids) crazy. What I would like to know is the 
headroom over the SNR (signal to noise ratio) so I need to 
have them measure the noise level (at either 2.4GHz or 5GHz).

Do you know an app that provides the SNR or the noise level?

They're currently "surviving" on the fact that my daughter
is on T-Mobile so the personal hotspot feature allows her
(unlimited but slow 3G at best) cellular data to be shared 
with the AT&T iPhone and to both iPads.

My daughter called the free T-Mobile international phone
number 611-equivalent (+1-505-998-3793) and they had her 
turn on roaming, which gave her 3G (at best) cellular 
data (where the T-Mobile plan is unlimited data when in
Europe, but only something like 2.5GB/month in the USA).

I know less about the AT&T iPhone but the friend seems to
have only an 800MB/month plan but she can't connect for 
cellular data for some reason, so she's glomming off my
daughter's signal for the moment (until we sort this out).

I don't know the situation with the AT&T iPad, but the 
T-Mobile iPad only has the free 200Mb/month for life
SIM card, which doesn't work in Europe, so it's a "dumb"
iPad with respect to cellular data (it should work fine
on WiFi though).

Since the T-Mobile Android cellular data is slow (3G at
best according to T-Mobile) and has to be shared with
the AT&T iPhone, I really want both of them on the 
next-door brother-in-law's home broadband router WiFi.

Jeff Liebermann kindly suggested the freeware WiFi
Analyzer, which is as good as InSSIDer so, we have 
both installed now, and that tells us the signal strength
in decibels (my daughter is getting -90dBm but can't
connect to the WiFi access point for some reason).

The reason they can't connect is almost certainly that
the signal to noise ratio doesn't give them the 10 to
12 decibels they need of headroom.

But, that brings up this question because I have no 
idea what the noise level is at their location.

Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for any of
these three types of mobile devices?

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Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-01 04:48 +0000
  Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-06-30 22:52 -0700
    Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 09:56 +0100
      Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-01 18:52 +0000
        Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2015-07-01 22:48 -0500
          Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-02 05:51 +0000
            Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 09:08 +0100
              Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-02 23:03 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-02 23:08 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 10:11 +1000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 05:01 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 10:16 +1000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 05:02 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 05:06 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 16:29 +1000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 07:08 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 17:22 +1000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 07:33 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 18:02 +1000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 07:35 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 19:48 +1000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-04 13:16 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-04 11:05 -0700
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-07-04 20:25 +0100
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-04 21:16 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-04 14:17 -0700
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-04 20:51 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-04 14:49 -0700
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-05 00:37 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-05 02:20 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2015-07-05 11:03 -0500
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-05 16:25 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2015-07-05 10:59 -0500
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-05 16:16 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 09:25 +1000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-04 10:48 -0700
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-04 20:57 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-04 14:58 -0700
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-05 02:16 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2015-07-05 11:00 -0500
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-05 16:13 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2015-07-06 01:55 -0500
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-06 07:27 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-04 21:01 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-04 21:22 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-04 15:05 -0700
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-05 00:47 +0000
              Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 04:59 +0000
    Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 06:03 +1000
      Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-01 21:59 -0700
        Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 06:46 +1000
          Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 07:00 +1000
            Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-02 22:00 +0000
          Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-02 21:59 +0000
            Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 09:23 +1000
              Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 04:37 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 15:31 +1000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 05:47 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 05:51 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 06:58 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 05:58 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 16:49 +1000
              Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 04:44 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 15:32 +1000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 06:01 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 17:10 +1000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 07:21 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 17:45 +1000
              Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 04:48 +0000
              Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 04:49 +0000
              Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 04:51 +0000
              Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 04:55 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 16:18 +1000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 06:52 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 17:17 +1000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 07:25 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 17:59 +1000
        Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 07:21 +1000
          Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-02 14:58 -0700
            Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-02 22:14 +0000
              Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 09:32 +1000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 10:16 +1000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 04:24 +0000
                Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-03 04:22 +0000
            Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 09:03 +1000
    Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Allodoxaphobia <knock_yourself_out@example.net> - 2015-07-01 21:17 +0000
      Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-01 21:38 +0000
        Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2015-07-01 22:40 -0500
          Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-02 05:37 +0000
            Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-02 06:00 +0000
          Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-02 05:58 +0000
    Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-01 22:24 -0700
      Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-01 22:33 -0700
      Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? "Paul B. Andersen" <somebody@somewhere.no> - 2015-07-02 05:50 +0000
      Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 00:01 -0700

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