Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device?

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	alt.internet.wireless, comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject	Re: Is there a way to get WiFi NOISE levels for a mobile device?
Date	2015-07-03 15:31 +1000
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Paul B. Andersen <somebody@somewhere.no> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>> But WiFi SNR doesn't allow me to see the wifi
>> extender separately which is a real downside for me.

> Wow. RodSpeed, that was a great observation.
> You're only slightly wrong in that observation,

Turns out I am completely wrong. The wifi extender isn't
actually working at all. The neighbour has gone away and
I didn't notice that the wifi extender isn't working until I
ran WiFi Analyser to see if I got the same detail you said
you saw with it and discovered its been turned off. It gets
its power from a long extension cord which she normally
has plugged into a power point in the laundry which has
a door to the outside. I've just been there and discovered
that she has unplugged that end so she can lock the door.
She usually tells me when she is going away to get me to
keep an eye on her place while she is away but must have
forgotten to tell me or is out of credit on her phone or
something. She's got pretty bad arthritis so she normally
rings me rather than walking round to tell me when going
away.

That brings up another problem with WiFi SNR tho. WiFi
Analyser shows me 5-6 of the neighbours'' wifis, WiFi SNR
has only ever shown me just the one, my router which is
only a couple of feet away from the tablet.

> but, I only know that because I just tested it.

> I'm glad I did test what you said because I was wondering if we
> even needed Wifi Analyzer anymore, but, clearly WiFi Analyzer
> does a MUCH BETTER JOB of showing you *both* signal strengths
> of both SSIDs when they're the same using a WiFi extender.

Yeah, that's what I use for a quick check if the wifi extender is still 
working.

> What I did was walk next to my router1, and then walk over to
> router2, both of which have the same SSID but are on different
> frequencies.

> Bearing in mind that at the top of the WiFi SNR
> page you see the frequency and the SSID,

You can't see that on mine, because the setting
don't work so you can't turn that text display on.
And mine are on the same frequency.

> I was hoping that I would see the frequency change as
> the cellphone switched over from one router to the other.

> THE GOOD of WiFi SNR:
> WiFi SNR did show the *different* frequency at the top, but,
> THE BAD of WiFi SNR:
> It didn't switch the readout automatically. I had to restart
> WiFi SNR and only *then* did it show the different frequency
> at the top.

> The good news is that WiFi Analyzer showed both SSIDs
> perfectly the entire time, and it shows the signal strength
> of both, where you can see one parabola shrink as you get
> further away and the other parabola grow at the same time.

Yeah, that was quite handy when working out where to put the
wifi extender. I'd normally prefer to not have it outside, but she
doesn't get a good enough signal inside her house to put the
wifi extender there, that's why I use a wifi extender at all.

The signal isn't too bad with the Galaxy Tab 3 7.0 that she uses,
but not good enough for more than very intermittent use.

> The bad news of WiFi Analyzer is that you can't tell which SSID
> is the one being used, since they're both the same name.

> The good news with InSSIDer is that it gives you the BSSID at
> the same time, and, most importantly, it puts an asterisk next
> to the one parabola that the phone is connected to.

I don't use InSSIDer because it isn't free anymore and doesn't
provide enough extra functionality to make it worth paying for.

> So, I watched the asterisk start at the tall parabola, and then,
> as I walked away from that router toward another router, I saw
> the parabola shrink and the other parabola grow but it didn't
> switch then. Only when the second parabola grew appreciably
> bigger than the first did the asterisk switch over to the new
> parabola.

> So, in summary *all three* programs do something useful that
> the others dont.

> 1. WiFi SNR gives you the signal to noise ratio.
> 2. WiFi Analyzer gives you a really nice signal meter (with beeps)
> 3. InSSIDer let's you debug when you have a router extension
>   with the same SSID.

> I feel sorry for the people who haven't downloaded these
> wonderful tools yet! :)

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