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Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?
Date 2025-06-13 20:55 +0200
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On 2025-06-13 18:43, VanguardLH wrote:
> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Gelato wrote:
>>
>>> The EU replaceable battery rules go into effect February 18, 2027.
>>> https://prodlaw.eu/2025/02/eu-battery-regulation-removability-and-
>>> replaceability-requirements-explained/
>>
>> Which probably means most phones on the EU/UK market around Autumn 2026
>> will have replaceable batteries, and the remnants of the fixed-battery
>> stock will get shipped to Africa shortly afterwards ...
> 
> Just because the EU comes up with regulations, and then assigns councils
> or committees to establish guidelines, doesn't mean the rest of the
> world has to comply.  There are already differences in manufacturer
> regarding whether a phone is for US or global.  Nothing the EU mandates
> is enforceable elsewhere, so phone makers could make phones with
> replaceable batteries to distribute in the EU, and continue making and
> distributing phones elsewhere with non-removable batteries.  The EU is
> just 5.6% of the world's population.  No one else has to comply.
> 
> Manufacturers often streamline their production by making a product the
> same no matter where it gets distributed, but there can be differences
> based on region.  I've seen assembly lines where the head of the line
> makes everything the same, but the line splits up to produce variations.

It is possible.

> Has the USA, India, Japan, or anywhere else asserted they will implement
> regulations to the EU regarding replaceable batteries?  The EU enforces
> their rules against importer and retailers, because those are within
> their jurisdiction.  They can't force the phone makers to do anything,
> because the phone makers are not in the EU.
> 
> Because batteries are chemical, so they wane in capacity and eventually
> die (or are so low on recharge to be nearly unusable), and because smart
> phone makers are only required to supply batteries for 5 years for a
> particular phone, they would just change the physical layout for
> batteries in new models.  You couldn't use a common battery across all
> models, or even outside a particular model, but have to buy their
> proprietary configuration.  Keep moving the target, and the target is
> gone after 5 years.
> 
> I'd take replaceable batteries over water resistence in a heartbeat.
> Swapping out a spare full charged battery in a few seconds sure beats
> having to wait for a full charge taking hours.

I like waterproof, even if it is for a limited time and depth. 
Rainwater, accidental fall to a pail... I lost one phone because I took 
a swim and forgot. I noticed instantly, but it was already too late. 
Salty water, too.

...

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-11 02:53 -0500
  Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-06-11 11:22 +0100
    Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-11 08:46 -0500
      Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-11 15:27 +0000
      Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-12 10:20 +0200
        Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-12 17:27 +0000
        Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-12 13:58 -0500
          Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-13 01:06 +0200
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-06-13 00:57 +0000
              Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-13 02:09 +0000
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-06-13 02:44 +0000
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-13 08:29 +0100
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-13 13:51 +0000
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-12 20:42 -0500
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-12 21:28 -0500
              Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-13 13:26 +0200
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-13 02:35 +0000
          Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Gelato <gelato@.is.invalid> - 2025-06-12 22:14 -0400
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-13 04:21 -0500
              Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-13 11:18 +0100
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Gelato <gelato@.is.invalid> - 2025-06-13 10:06 -0400
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-13 15:17 +0100
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-13 11:43 -0500
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-13 20:55 +0200
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-15 03:50 +0000
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-16 19:54 +0200
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-13 20:46 +0100
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-15 03:53 +0000
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-06-16 08:50 +0200
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-13 11:01 -0500
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-06-13 17:18 +0100
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-13 20:57 +0200
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-15 03:59 +0000
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-15 07:23 +0100
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-15 16:18 +0000
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-16 19:58 +0200
          Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-06-13 16:48 +0100
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-13 12:00 -0500
              Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-06-13 17:40 +0000
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-13 18:13 +0000
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-06-13 14:07 -0400
    Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-11 15:07 +0000
  Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-11 11:35 +0100
    Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-06-11 11:43 +0100
      Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-11 09:07 -0500
        Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-06-11 15:31 +0100
          Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Oscar <oscar@invalid.net> - 2025-06-11 11:11 -0400
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-06-11 22:02 +0100
              Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Oscar <oscar@invalid.net> - 2025-06-12 14:51 -0400
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-06-13 16:59 +0100
          Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-12 14:10 -0500
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-06-12 21:48 +0000
              Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-12 18:08 -0500
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-06-13 00:42 +0000

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