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Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?

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On 2025-06-13 04:28, VanguardLH wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-06-12 20:58, VanguardLH wrote:
>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-06-11 15:46, VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> While I will use my old phone a little longer, I am looking at new
>>> phones with new batteries will get updated many years into the future.
>>> I'm not buying an old phone, and then realizing I've reached its end of
>>> lifespan prematurely.  The Moto G52 and G62 came out 3 years ago.
>>> Improvement in hardware has been incremental, and disappointing.
>>> Meanwhile the door keeps moving with new OS versions.
>>
>> Sure, if I were purchasing now I would look at the most recent successor
>> of the G62. I personally like Motorola, and the G62 has all the features
>> I need. But I would choose a newer version. The newer the better, for
>> longer support.
>>
>> Soon the mandate to have replaceable batteries should come into effect
>> in the EU, and that should change things.
> 
> Yeah, I read about that a little while ago, and also hoped that phone
> makers would be required to provide user-serviceable batteries.  After
> all, for a phone to be water resistent does not mandate the battery
> cannot be removable, just that the seal be more than just 2 plastic
> shell halves that snap together.  The past argument was that
> non-removable batteries afforded larger-sized batteries for longer
> up-time.  Really?  Has anyone contested or verified that premise?
> Versus, say, making the dimensions of the battery bigger, but thinner,
> and attaching to the back plate to have a battery almost as big?  I've
> even seen where you could buy a new back plate with an integral and much
> bigger battery to significantly increase up-time.  Of course, that was
> back in the heyday of smart phones that had replaceable batteries.
> 
> I think the EU's deadline is April 2027 for smart phone makers to come
> up with new designs that permit user-serviceable batteries.  However,
> I'm sure the definition of user-serviceable may not necessitate easy to
> replace, just possible to replace.  "Easy" depends on expertise and
> equipment.  It's easy to replace BGA chips if you have the equipment.

I remember that we could replace batteries on submersible watches. But 
you had to have it done at a repair shop if you wanted the watch to 
remain water tight. That's fine with me, if applied to phones.

...

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-11 02:53 -0500
  Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-06-11 11:22 +0100
    Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-11 08:46 -0500
      Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-11 15:27 +0000
      Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-12 10:20 +0200
        Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-12 17:27 +0000
        Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-12 13:58 -0500
          Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-13 01:06 +0200
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-06-13 00:57 +0000
              Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-13 02:09 +0000
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-06-13 02:44 +0000
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-13 08:29 +0100
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-13 13:51 +0000
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-12 20:42 -0500
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-12 21:28 -0500
              Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-13 13:26 +0200
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-13 02:35 +0000
          Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Gelato <gelato@.is.invalid> - 2025-06-12 22:14 -0400
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-13 04:21 -0500
              Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-13 11:18 +0100
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Gelato <gelato@.is.invalid> - 2025-06-13 10:06 -0400
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-13 15:17 +0100
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-13 11:43 -0500
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-13 20:55 +0200
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-15 03:50 +0000
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-16 19:54 +0200
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-13 20:46 +0100
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-15 03:53 +0000
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-06-16 08:50 +0200
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-13 11:01 -0500
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-06-13 17:18 +0100
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-13 20:57 +0200
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-15 03:59 +0000
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-15 07:23 +0100
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-15 16:18 +0000
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-16 19:58 +0200
          Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-06-13 16:48 +0100
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-13 12:00 -0500
              Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-06-13 17:40 +0000
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-13 18:13 +0000
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2025-06-13 14:07 -0400
    Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-06-11 15:07 +0000
  Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-11 11:35 +0100
    Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-06-11 11:43 +0100
      Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-11 09:07 -0500
        Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-06-11 15:31 +0100
          Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Oscar <oscar@invalid.net> - 2025-06-11 11:11 -0400
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-06-11 22:02 +0100
              Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Oscar <oscar@invalid.net> - 2025-06-12 14:51 -0400
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-06-13 16:59 +0100
          Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-12 14:10 -0500
            Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-06-12 21:48 +0000
              Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-06-12 18:08 -0500
                Re: Alternate OS for LG V20? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-06-13 00:42 +0000

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