Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist

From	Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com>
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Subject	Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist
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Date	2024-05-14 06:24 +0200
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Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote in
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> Nomen Nescio wrote on Sun, 12 May 2024 05:26:57 +0200 (CEST) :
> 
>> Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.
> 
> The bad guy didn't have to register a recovery email with Proton Mail.
> Ask me how I know this.
> 
> Also the bad guy could have used Tor for his Proton Mail activities.
> Again, ask me how I know this.
> 
> The main problem with his iCloud account, if we assume he owned it due
> to owning an iOS device, is there is no privacy possible on iOS
> devices. 
> 
> Every other common consumer operating system will easily allow you to
> NOT register the device to a mothership tracking account (yes, even
> Win11). 
> 
> Not only is it only Apple who requires that you be logging into that
> mothership tracking account 24/7/365, but Apple will unilaterally
> brick your device if you refuse to constantly log into the device.
> 
> Again, ask me how I know this.
>  <https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg> Apple _forces_ a log
>  in! <https://i.postimg.cc/8k3GQyj4/appleid09.jpg> Apple tracks your
>  activity <https://i.postimg.cc/hhFNJ5mq/appleid010.jpg> Apps become
>  non functional <https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple
>  _forces_ extra logins! <https://i.postimg.cc/Y9kkj19v/appleid12.jpg>
>  Apple tracking server login 
> 
> Not only is no account needed to use an Android phone (or
> Windows/Linux), but Apple literally inserts your unique tracking ID
> into EVERY app you install on your iOS device so that they can track
> app activity. 
> 
> Why do you think Apple requires you to be logged into their servers?
> Why do you think Apple adds a unique tracking ID to every app
> installed? 
> 
> Apple's lack of privacy is coupled with an immense lack of security
> too. Consider that the iPhone is the most exploited phone in phone
> history! 
>  <https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>
> 
> You can't have any privacy or security on any iOS device, by design.
> Note that Apple also provides the worst hotfix support in the
> industry. 
>  <https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/>
>  <https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security
>  -flaws-in-latest-os-releases> 
>  <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-upda
>  te-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/> 
> 
> Having proved Apple has the worst hotfix support in the industry, and
> having shown as a result the iPhone is the most exploited phone, and
> knowing that only Apple inserts your unique AppleID into every single
> app you install on the device, and knowing that Apple alone requires
> you to constantly log into their mothership tracking servers.... 
> 
> Can you trust Apple?

That's horrible!  Obviously not!

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Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2024-05-12 05:26 +0200
  Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-12 12:44 +0000
    Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2024-05-14 06:24 +0200
      Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-05-13 21:55 -0700
    Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-14 09:21 +0200
      Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-14 09:33 +0200
  Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Anonymous <nobody@yamn.paranoici.org> - 2024-05-12 16:27 +0000
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      Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 14:50 -0400
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              Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-12 14:21 -0700
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          Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 17:12 -0400
            Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-12 14:20 -0700
              Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 17:25 -0400
                Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-12 14:43 -0700
                Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-12 23:15 +0000
                Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 20:47 -0400
                Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-13 01:16 +0000
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                Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-13 14:22 +0000
                Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-13 14:20 +0000
                Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-05-13 10:34 -0400
                Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-13 14:41 +0000
                Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-05-13 11:24 -0400
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                Re: Apple is for women, MicroSoft is for men, distros are for punks. Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2024-05-14 07:14 +0200
                Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2024-05-14 06:49 +0200
                Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-05-13 12:30 -0400
                Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-05-13 14:00 -0400
        Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2024-05-14 05:39 +0200
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    Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2024-05-14 07:04 +0200
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    Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-12 20:00 +0000
      Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 16:13 -0400
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            Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 17:09 -0400
              Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-13 03:22 +0000
        Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-12 23:12 +0000
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                Re: Encrypted Services Apple, Proton and Wire Helped Spanish Police Identify Activist Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-13 21:01 +0000
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