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On 2026-04-26 17:18, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2026-04-26 15:19, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2026-04-25 22:53, micky wrote:
>>>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 12:06:44 +0200, Jörg Lorenz
>>>>> <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> And your use of "lagging" to describe Spain is interesting.  You love to
>>>>> give zingers even when polite speech could make your point in a better
>>>>> way. I suppose it's better that you get your aggression out here, rather
>>>>> than beating your wife.
>>>>
>>>> The Swiss love to ditch technologies that other countries keep using for
>>>> many years because they consider them obsolete. For instance, I believe
>>>> they no longer have FM radio (use DAB instead), or over the air digital
>>>> TV (you need to pay for Internet tv instead).
>>>>
>>>> Thus they consider other countries "lagging" when they are just "normal".
>>>
>>>     And in this case, Jörg's qualification "lagging" is clearly false,
>>> because I'm sure Spain *does* have (mobile service) contracts similar to
>>> the one Jörg has, but you (and others) probably do not need/want such a
>>> contract and you (and others) are probably not willing to pay that kind
>>> of money - CHF 46.95 / EUR 51 per month - for it.
>>
>> There is a lot of differences as to the contract each company gets. If
>> company A is "friends" with company B in another country, it gets a good
>> deal. But if they are not "friends", they get a bad deal.
>>
>> Look at the roaming prices I get from Movistar in Canada:
>>
>> Internet
>> Data: ?12.10/MB
>>
>> Calls
>> To Spain or local numbers: ?1.82/min + ?1.21 connection fee
>> To other destinations: ?4.83/min + ?1.21 connection fee
>> Incoming calls: ?1.82/min + ?1.21 connection fee
>>
>> SMS
>> Sending SMS messages to any destination: ?1.21 per SMS
>> Received SMS messages: ?0
>>
>>
>> These are not prices, they are penalties!
> 
>    Yes, these are high prices, but I assume you have a low tier contract
> (or no contract at all (just PAYG)?). You probably don't spend Jörg's EU
> 51/month, do you?

Oh, yes, I have a full contract.

miMovistar: Max (Fiber with Device) | Movistar Plus+

• Fiber up to 1 Gbps with unlimited calls to landlines.
• 1 5G+ line with unlimited calls, texts, and ultra-fast data.
• 1 5G+ line with calls at 0 cents/min and unlimited data (5 GB ultra-fast).
• Up to 5 devices starting at €0/month.
• Movistar Plus+ Inicia: exclusive channels on M+ featuring movies, series, original programming, top sports, and DTT (La 1, La 2, etc.), with a unique experience (Last 7 Days...).
• Movistar Plus+: the exclusive M+ channel with 1 premiere per day, the M+ match of LaLiga and the Champions League, and plenty of sports. Exclusive channels via M+: Movies, Series, and Documentaries. Over 80 international channels (Star Channel, AXN, etc.).

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Two mobile phones.
TV
One device (the second mobile).



Nowhere does it say the price, and I "updated" the contract a week ago, so no invoice yet. I expect around a hundred euros.



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> 
>> I can buy a package, but I don't understand what they say:
> 
>    Yes, packages ('bundles') should give much lower rates per min/SMS/MB
> and often such entitlements are/can_be bundled in the monthly charge.
> And for a flexible contract/service, such bundles can often be enabled/
> disabled on a monthly basis.

Yes, I mean an international package, but I did not locate info on it. Still, very limited on USA/Canada

> 
> [...]
> 
>> Switzerland is also expensive for me, they consider it similar to USA
>> and Canada. It is not included in the EU package:
> 
>    That is strange! Obviously Switzerland is not included in the EU, but
> for our providers, several non-EU European countries are treated the
> same as EU countries, for example Switzerland, UK, Norway, Andorra,
> Iceland, Liechtenstein, Monaco. The EU plus these non-EU countries are
> called 'zone 1', which AFAIK is a European concept, so I think it's
> strange that Spanish providers would treat Switzerland differently.
> 
>    So to be specific, for us a call from Switzerland and within
> Switzerland would cost the same as a call in The Netherlands. Same for
> SMS and same for data.
> 
>> Internet
>> Data:
>>
>> 500MB for ?6.05/day
>>
>> Daily rate. You?ll only pay for the days you use data.
>>
>> Calls
>> To Spain or local numbers: ?1.82/min + connection charge ?1.21
>> Incoming calls: ?1.82/min + connection charge ?1.21
>> To other destinations: ?4.83/min + connection charge ?1.21
>>
>> SMS and MMS
>> Sending SMS to any destination: ?1.21/SMS
>> Sending MMS to any destination: ?4.84/MMS
>> Received SMS and MMS: ?0
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe a different provider offers different prices.
> 
>    I am sure they do.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
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are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-23 03:54 -0400
  Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-23 12:53 +0200
    Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-23 14:47 +0200
  Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-04-23 22:01 +0200
    Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-23 22:37 +0200
      Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-04-24 03:13 +0200
        Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-04-24 09:10 +0200
        Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-24 11:09 +0200
          Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-04-24 12:06 +0200
            Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-04-25 10:35 +0200
            Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-25 09:59 +0100
            Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-25 16:53 -0400
              Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-26 14:08 +0200
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-26 13:19 +0000
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-26 16:03 +0200
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-26 15:18 +0000
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-26 16:32 +0100
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-26 19:45 +0000
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-27 10:47 +0100
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-26 21:14 +0200
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-26 20:11 +0000
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-26 22:28 +0200
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-27 23:48 -0400
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-28 13:39 +0200
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-05-12 12:37 -0400
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-05-12 12:54 -0400
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-12 19:33 +0200
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-12 19:29 +0200
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-05-12 17:37 +0000
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-05-12 18:44 -0400
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-05-13 01:22 +0000
          Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-24 15:10 +0000
            Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-04-24 19:00 +0200
              Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-24 17:59 +0000
  Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-04-24 09:08 +0200
    Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-24 11:20 +0200
  Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-25 17:04 -0400

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