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Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2026-04-26 15:19, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> >> On 2026-04-25 22:53, micky wrote:
> >>> In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 12:06:44 +0200, Jörg Lorenz
> >>> <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> > [...]
> >>> And your use of "lagging" to describe Spain is interesting.  You love to
> >>> give zingers even when polite speech could make your point in a better
> >>> way. I suppose it's better that you get your aggression out here, rather
> >>> than beating your wife.
> >>
> >> The Swiss love to ditch technologies that other countries keep using for
> >> many years because they consider them obsolete. For instance, I believe
> >> they no longer have FM radio (use DAB instead), or over the air digital
> >> TV (you need to pay for Internet tv instead).
> >>
> >> Thus they consider other countries "lagging" when they are just "normal".
> > 
> >    And in this case, Jörg's qualification "lagging" is clearly false,
> > because I'm sure Spain *does* have (mobile service) contracts similar to
> > the one Jörg has, but you (and others) probably do not need/want such a
> > contract and you (and others) are probably not willing to pay that kind
> > of money - CHF 46.95 / EUR 51 per month - for it.
> 
> There is a lot of differences as to the contract each company gets. If 
> company A is "friends" with company B in another country, it gets a good 
> deal. But if they are not "friends", they get a bad deal.
> 
> Look at the roaming prices I get from Movistar in Canada:
> 
> Internet
> Data: ?12.10/MB
> 
> Calls
> To Spain or local numbers: ?1.82/min + ?1.21 connection fee
> To other destinations: ?4.83/min + ?1.21 connection fee
> Incoming calls: ?1.82/min + ?1.21 connection fee
> 
> SMS
> Sending SMS messages to any destination: ?1.21 per SMS
> Received SMS messages: ?0
> 
> 
> These are not prices, they are penalties!

  Yes, these are high prices, but I assume you have a low tier contract
(or no contract at all (just PAYG)?). You probably don't spend Jörg's EU
51/month, do you?

> I can buy a package, but I don't understand what they say:

  Yes, packages ('bundles') should give much lower rates per min/SMS/MB
and often such entitlements are/can_be bundled in the monthly charge.
And for a flexible contract/service, such bundles can often be enabled/
disabled on a monthly basis.

[...]

> Switzerland is also expensive for me, they consider it similar to USA 
> and Canada. It is not included in the EU package:

  That is strange! Obviously Switzerland is not included in the EU, but
for our providers, several non-EU European countries are treated the
same as EU countries, for example Switzerland, UK, Norway, Andorra,
Iceland, Liechtenstein, Monaco. The EU plus these non-EU countries are
called 'zone 1', which AFAIK is a European concept, so I think it's
strange that Spanish providers would treat Switzerland differently.

  So to be specific, for us a call from Switzerland and within
Switzerland would cost the same as a call in The Netherlands. Same for
SMS and same for data.

> Internet
> Data:
> 
> 500MB for ?6.05/day
> 
> Daily rate. You?ll only pay for the days you use data.
> 
> Calls
> To Spain or local numbers: ?1.82/min + connection charge ?1.21
> Incoming calls: ?1.82/min + connection charge ?1.21
> To other destinations: ?4.83/min + connection charge ?1.21
> 
> SMS and MMS
> Sending SMS to any destination: ?1.21/SMS
> Sending MMS to any destination: ?4.84/MMS
> Received SMS and MMS: ?0
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe a different provider offers different prices.

  I am sure they do.

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are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-23 03:54 -0400
  Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-23 12:53 +0200
    Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-23 14:47 +0200
  Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-04-23 22:01 +0200
    Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-23 22:37 +0200
      Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-04-24 03:13 +0200
        Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-04-24 09:10 +0200
        Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-24 11:09 +0200
          Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-04-24 12:06 +0200
            Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-04-25 10:35 +0200
            Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-25 09:59 +0100
            Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-25 16:53 -0400
              Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-26 14:08 +0200
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-26 13:19 +0000
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-26 16:03 +0200
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-26 15:18 +0000
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-26 16:32 +0100
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-26 19:45 +0000
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-27 10:47 +0100
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-26 21:14 +0200
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-26 20:11 +0000
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-26 22:28 +0200
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-27 23:48 -0400
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-28 13:39 +0200
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-05-12 12:37 -0400
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-05-12 12:54 -0400
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-12 19:33 +0200
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-12 19:29 +0200
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-05-12 17:37 +0000
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-05-12 18:44 -0400
                Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-05-13 01:22 +0000
          Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-24 15:10 +0000
            Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-04-24 19:00 +0200
              Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-24 17:59 +0000
  Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-04-24 09:08 +0200
    Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-24 11:20 +0200
  Re: are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-25 17:04 -0400

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