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Heat Death of the Internet

Started byBen Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink>
First post2024-05-02 03:54 +0000
Last post2024-08-03 15:10 +0000
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  Heat Death of the Internet Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> - 2024-05-02 03:54 +0000
    Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-02 12:34 +0200
      Re: Heat Death of the Internet Oregonian Haruspex <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-02 12:05 +0000
      Re: Heat Death of the Internet Marco Moock <mm+usenet@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-02 14:47 +0200
        Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-03 11:39 +0200
      Re: Heat Death of the Internet Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> - 2024-05-02 14:01 +0000
        Re: Heat Death of the Internet Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-02 21:20 +0200
        Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-03 11:26 +0200
      Re: Heat Death of the Internet not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-05-03 08:52 +1000
        Re: Heat Death of the Internet Marco Moock <mm+usenet@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-03 09:36 +0200
          Re: Heat Death of the Internet Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-05-03 11:19 +0200
            Re: Heat Death of the Internet Marco Moock <mm+usenet@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-03 11:32 +0200
          Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-03 11:32 +0200
          Re: Heat Death of the Internet not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-05-04 08:58 +1000
            Re: Heat Death of the Internet scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2024-05-06 16:43 +0000
              Re: Heat Death of the Internet not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-05-07 08:20 +1000
                Re: Heat Death of the Internet kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-05-12 13:06 +0000
          Re: Heat Death of the Internet kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-05-04 14:01 +0000
        Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-03 11:30 +0200
          Re: Heat Death of the Internet not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-05-04 08:39 +1000
            Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-04 13:03 +0200
    Re: Heat Death of the Internet Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-28 08:34 +0000
      Re: Heat Death of the Internet candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-28 14:40 +0000
        Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-28 19:15 +0200
          Re: Heat Death of the Internet not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-07-29 08:51 +1000
            Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-29 11:06 +0200
              Re: Heat Death of the Internet not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-07-30 08:20 +1000
                Re: Heat Death of the Internet candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-30 16:40 +0000
                Re: Heat Death of the Internet not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-07-31 08:16 +1000
                  Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-31 11:11 +0200
                    Re: Heat Death of the Internet Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-07-31 12:13 +0200
                    Re: Heat Death of the Internet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-31 12:45 +0000
                      Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-31 22:02 +0200
                        Re: Heat Death of the Internet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-31 20:28 +0000
                        Re: Heat Death of the Internet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-31 19:01 -0300
                          Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-01 11:00 +0200
                            Re: Heat Death of the Internet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-08-01 10:56 -0300
                              Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-02 22:06 +0200
                                Re: Heat Death of the Internet "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-08-02 21:24 +0100
                                  Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-03 14:09 +0200
                                    Re: Heat Death of the Internet Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-08-04 02:35 -0300
                                      Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-04 11:07 +0200
                                        Re: Heat Death of the Internet Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-08-04 17:21 -0300
                                          Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-05 15:08 +0200
                      Re: Heat Death of the Internet candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-08-02 05:40 +0000
                        Re: Heat Death of the Internet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-08-02 15:45 +0000
                          Re: Heat Death of the Internet candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-08-03 15:10 +0000
                        Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-02 22:07 +0200
                          Re: Heat Death of the Internet candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-08-03 15:10 +0000

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#25408

FromMike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Date2024-08-04 02:35 -0300
Message-ID<871q34etot.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere>
In reply to#25405
D <nospam@example.net> writes:

> Trolling? On the contrary, this is a public service education to lead more 
> lost sheep back to the fold of our great leader! If you repent, Trump will 
> forgive you when he wins! =)

Are you the same D who's posted OT crackpot stuff to otherwise
untrafficed rec.crafts.blacksmithing and sci.bio.misc?

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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#25409

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-08-04 11:07 +0200
Message-ID<4184dcc2-1d15-4921-be77-dc25fa28ef6c@example.net>
In reply to#25408

On Sun, 4 Aug 2024, Mike Spencer wrote:

>
> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>
>> Trolling? On the contrary, this is a public service education to lead more
>> lost sheep back to the fold of our great leader! If you repent, Trump will
>> forgive you when he wins! =)
>
> Are you the same D who's posted OT crackpot stuff to otherwise
> untrafficed rec.crafts.blacksmithing and sci.bio.misc?
>

I don't think so, but you can never be sure. ;) Maybe there's a clue in 
the headers of the messages?

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#25410

FromMike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Date2024-08-04 17:21 -0300
Message-ID<87mslsca4n.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere>
In reply to#25409
D <nospam@example.net> writes:

> On Sun, 4 Aug 2024, Mike Spencer wrote:
> 
>>
>> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>>
>>> Trolling? On the contrary, this is a public service education to lead more
>>> lost sheep back to the fold of our great leader! If you repent, Trump will
>>> forgive you when he wins! =)
>>
>> Are you the same D who's posted OT crackpot stuff to otherwise
>> untrafficed rec.crafts.blacksmithing and sci.bio.misc?
>>
> 
> I don't think so, but you can never be sure. ;) Maybe there's a clue in 
> the headers of the messages?

Different originating news servers.  Suggestive but not conclusive.

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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#25411

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-08-05 15:08 +0200
Message-ID<e69f6e6c-c3d9-2ec1-ce18-4d1060479ce2@example.net>
In reply to#25410

On Sun, 4 Aug 2024, Mike Spencer wrote:

>
> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>
>> On Sun, 4 Aug 2024, Mike Spencer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Trolling? On the contrary, this is a public service education to lead more
>>>> lost sheep back to the fold of our great leader! If you repent, Trump will
>>>> forgive you when he wins! =)
>>>
>>> Are you the same D who's posted OT crackpot stuff to otherwise
>>> untrafficed rec.crafts.blacksmithing and sci.bio.misc?
>>>
>>
>> I don't think so, but you can never be sure. ;) Maybe there's a clue in
>> the headers of the messages?
>
> Different originating news servers.  Suggestive but not conclusive.
>

Well, I'd say, I'm not the blacksmith and bio fan! ;)

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#25400

Fromcandycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Date2024-08-02 05:40 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvaorrc.34j6.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>
In reply to#25394
Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote at 12:45 this Wednesday (GMT):
> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> 
>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>> You were probably using a distro-packaged version or the old one on
>>>> their website. Newer executables built from the development code
>>>> are available here:
>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/
>>>>
>>>> Or to download the latest one directly:
>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl
>>>
>>> And of course after saying that, it's not working for me today.
>>>
>> 
>> Try yt-dlp, worked great for me yesterday! ;)
>> 
>> Jokes aside, it is probably just some change from youtube, so do an update 
>> and it usually starts to work again.
>
> It is.  Youtube is constatantly making "changes", presumably to try to 
> break downloaders and the like in an attempt to prop up their ad 
> revenue.


And ad-blockers! The other day, they made some change that made the
video appear to buffer while I presume it was trying to play an ad.
Thankfully, the guys at uBlock managed to block it within a day or two.
-- 
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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#25401

FromRich <rich@example.invalid>
Date2024-08-02 15:45 +0000
Message-ID<v8iuv1$2stdt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#25400
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote at 12:45 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> You were probably using a distro-packaged version or the old one on
>>>>> their website. Newer executables built from the development code
>>>>> are available here:
>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/
>>>>>
>>>>> Or to download the latest one directly:
>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl
>>>>
>>>> And of course after saying that, it's not working for me today.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Try yt-dlp, worked great for me yesterday! ;)
>>> 
>>> Jokes aside, it is probably just some change from youtube, so do an update 
>>> and it usually starts to work again.
>>
>> It is.  Youtube is constatantly making "changes", presumably to try to 
>> break downloaders and the like in an attempt to prop up their ad 
>> revenue.
> 
> And ad-blockers! The other day, they made some change that made the
> video appear to buffer while I presume it was trying to play an ad.
> Thankfully, the guys at uBlock managed to block it within a day or two.

Yes, that too, since ad-blockers also reduce their ad impressions.

Remember, youtube/google are, first and formost, advertising companies.  
Anything even remotely useful to us (video streaming, search, etc.) is 
a far distant second to the needs of those advertisers.

If they could still serve ad impressions but not offer all those 
secondary (to them) useful services, guess where the useful services 
would go.....

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#25406

Fromcandycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Date2024-08-03 15:10 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvashlg.gfp4.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>
In reply to#25401
Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote at 15:45 this Friday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote at 12:45 this Wednesday (GMT):
>>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> You were probably using a distro-packaged version or the old one on
>>>>>> their website. Newer executables built from the development code
>>>>>> are available here:
>>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or to download the latest one directly:
>>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl
>>>>>
>>>>> And of course after saying that, it's not working for me today.
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Try yt-dlp, worked great for me yesterday! ;)
>>>> 
>>>> Jokes aside, it is probably just some change from youtube, so do an update 
>>>> and it usually starts to work again.
>>>
>>> It is.  Youtube is constatantly making "changes", presumably to try to 
>>> break downloaders and the like in an attempt to prop up their ad 
>>> revenue.
>> 
>> And ad-blockers! The other day, they made some change that made the
>> video appear to buffer while I presume it was trying to play an ad.
>> Thankfully, the guys at uBlock managed to block it within a day or two.
>
> Yes, that too, since ad-blockers also reduce their ad impressions.
>
> Remember, youtube/google are, first and formost, advertising companies.  
> Anything even remotely useful to us (video streaming, search, etc.) is 
> a far distant second to the needs of those advertisers.
>
> If they could still serve ad impressions but not offer all those 
> secondary (to them) useful services, guess where the useful services 
> would go.....


Google has killed so many products theres a whole website dedicated to
the "Google Graveyard"
-- 
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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#25403

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-08-02 22:07 +0200
Message-ID<f0df7016-a79f-4e22-2b4b-b500b14d1aae@example.net>
In reply to#25400

On Fri, 2 Aug 2024, candycanearter07 wrote:

> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote at 12:45 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>
>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> You were probably using a distro-packaged version or the old one on
>>>>> their website. Newer executables built from the development code
>>>>> are available here:
>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/
>>>>>
>>>>> Or to download the latest one directly:
>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl
>>>>
>>>> And of course after saying that, it's not working for me today.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Try yt-dlp, worked great for me yesterday! ;)
>>>
>>> Jokes aside, it is probably just some change from youtube, so do an update
>>> and it usually starts to work again.
>>
>> It is.  Youtube is constatantly making "changes", presumably to try to
>> break downloaders and the like in an attempt to prop up their ad
>> revenue.
>
>
> And ad-blockers! The other day, they made some change that made the
> video appear to buffer while I presume it was trying to play an ad.
> Thankfully, the guys at uBlock managed to block it within a day or two.
>

Ahh... so that is the explanation! I wondered why this started to happen, 
but good that the good guys are on top of it! =)

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#25407

Fromcandycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Date2024-08-03 15:10 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvashn6.gfp4.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>
In reply to#25403
D <nospam@example.net> wrote at 20:07 this Friday (GMT):
>
>
> On Fri, 2 Aug 2024, candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote at 12:45 this Wednesday (GMT):
>>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> You were probably using a distro-packaged version or the old one on
>>>>>> their website. Newer executables built from the development code
>>>>>> are available here:
>>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or to download the latest one directly:
>>>>>> https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl
>>>>>
>>>>> And of course after saying that, it's not working for me today.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Try yt-dlp, worked great for me yesterday! ;)
>>>>
>>>> Jokes aside, it is probably just some change from youtube, so do an update
>>>> and it usually starts to work again.
>>>
>>> It is.  Youtube is constatantly making "changes", presumably to try to
>>> break downloaders and the like in an attempt to prop up their ad
>>> revenue.
>>
>>
>> And ad-blockers! The other day, they made some change that made the
>> video appear to buffer while I presume it was trying to play an ad.
>> Thankfully, the guys at uBlock managed to block it within a day or two.
>>
>
> Ahh... so that is the explanation! I wondered why this started to happen, 
> but good that the good guys are on top of it! =)


So am I! Of course, Google will keep trying.
-- 
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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