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Australia government programming

Started bySylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
First post2021-07-12 13:45 +1000
Last post2021-07-15 20:44 +0100
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  Australia government programming Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2021-07-12 13:45 +1000
    Re: Australia government programming Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-07-12 11:01 +0300
      Re: Australia government programming Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2021-07-12 18:32 +1000
        Re: Australia government programming Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-07-12 16:40 +0000
          Re: Australia government programming Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2021-07-13 09:16 +1000
            Re: Australia government programming Bruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com> - 2021-07-15 20:44 +0100

#21044 — Australia government programming

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
Date2021-07-12 13:45 +1000
SubjectAustralia government programming
Message-ID<il1s62Fpdg3U1@mid.individual.net>
https://vaccines.digitalhealth.gov.au/checkin

On a smart phone (mine's an Android), which is how this is typically 
used, how does one change today's date into one's date of birth, without 
swiping back on the month hundreds of times?

(One answer is to be a teenager, but otherwise?)

Sylvia.

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#21045

FromAnssi Saari <as@sci.fi>
Date2021-07-12 11:01 +0300
Message-ID<sm0r1g4c663.fsf@lakka.kapsi.fi>
In reply to#21044
Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> writes:

> https://vaccines.digitalhealth.gov.au/checkin
>
> On a smart phone (mine's an Android), which is how this is typically
> used, how does one change today's date into one's date of birth,
> without swiping back on the month hundreds of times?

Once you get the month view, tap on the 2021 on top left of that popup
for a scrollable year selection.

Not exactly obvious. Nothing wrong with entering a date of birth...

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#21046

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
Date2021-07-12 18:32 +1000
Message-ID<il2d0gFsfasU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#21045
On 12-Jul-21 6:01 pm, Anssi Saari wrote:
> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> writes:
> 
>> https://vaccines.digitalhealth.gov.au/checkin
>>
>> On a smart phone (mine's an Android), which is how this is typically
>> used, how does one change today's date into one's date of birth,
>> without swiping back on the month hundreds of times?
> 
> Once you get the month view, tap on the 2021 on top left of that popup
> for a scrollable year selection.
> 
> Not exactly obvious. Nothing wrong with entering a date of birth...
> 

Yes.

I tried a lot of tapping of random places, but the year number is a 
small target, and I didn't find it at the time.

I've sent the government an appropriate criticism of the practice of 
just assuming that everyone knows in detail how to use an Android phone. 
I dare say they'll file it under NFA.

Sylvia.

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#21055

FromRich <rich@example.invalid>
Date2021-07-12 16:40 +0000
Message-ID<schr94$kc1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21046
Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
> On 12-Jul-21 6:01 pm, Anssi Saari wrote:
>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> writes:
>> 
>>> https://vaccines.digitalhealth.gov.au/checkin
>>>
>>> On a smart phone (mine's an Android), which is how this is typically
>>> used, how does one change today's date into one's date of birth,
>>> without swiping back on the month hundreds of times?
>> 
>> Once you get the month view, tap on the 2021 on top left of that popup
>> for a scrollable year selection.
>> 
>> Not exactly obvious. Nothing wrong with entering a date of birth...
>> 
> 
> Yes.
> 
> I tried a lot of tapping of random places, but the year number is a 
> small target, and I didn't find it at the time.

Yes, very small -- and with absolutely no visual hint that it just so 
happens to be a control that does something.

> I've sent the government an appropriate criticism of the practice of 
> just assuming that everyone knows in detail how to use an Android 
> phone.  I dare say they'll file it under NFA.

You should have filed the complaint with Google, as Google is the one 
who made the dialog.  The app.  put out by the Australian Govt.  is 
likely just using the standard Android built in date picker.

You can blame Google's material design (which, translated, means: "no 
visual hinting that anything is a touch target - and only colors that 
are so close in contrast as to be almost indistinguishable being 
available for use).

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#21069

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
Date2021-07-13 09:16 +1000
Message-ID<il40quF7n34U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#21055
On 13-Jul-21 2:40 am, Rich wrote:

> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
>> I've sent the government an appropriate criticism of the practice of
>> just assuming that everyone knows in detail how to use an Android
>> phone.  I dare say they'll file it under NFA.
> 
> The app.  put out by the Australian Govt.  is
> likely just using the standard Android built in date picker.

It is, but that was a design decision too. They should have looked at 
the date picker, realised it was no good for an application that people 
are almost compelled to use, and done something else.

Even a "Are you having trouble setting the year? Here's how..." on the 
page would have been an improvement.

Sylvia.

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#21087

FromBruce Horrocks <07.013@scorecrow.com>
Date2021-07-15 20:44 +0100
Message-ID<ab388469-259e-aa16-bd27-736094d41bcb@scorecrow.com>
In reply to#21069
On 13/07/2021 00:16, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 13-Jul-21 2:40 am, Rich wrote:
> 
>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
>>> I've sent the government an appropriate criticism of the practice of
>>> just assuming that everyone knows in detail how to use an Android
>>> phone.  I dare say they'll file it under NFA.
>>
>> The app.  put out by the Australian Govt.  is
>> likely just using the standard Android built in date picker.
> 
> It is, but that was a design decision too. They should have looked at 
> the date picker, realised it was no good for an application that people 
> are almost compelled to use, and done something else.
> 
> Even a "Are you having trouble setting the year? Here's how..." on the 
> page would have been an improvement.

Perhaps they should start a countdown timer when the app is first 
launched? It starts at 2021 and decrements once per second. When you 
(eventually!) get to the date picker it uses the current timer value as 
the default year of birth.

;-)


-- 
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey, England

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