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  Microsoft notepad.exe paywall Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> - 2025-02-25 16:51 +0000
    Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2025-02-25 17:25 +0000
      Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-25 23:17 +0100
        Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-02-26 11:56 +0000
          Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-26 13:17 +0100
            Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-02-26 12:28 +0000
              Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-26 23:05 +0100
          Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> - 2025-02-26 21:17 -0300
            Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-02-28 12:13 +0200
              Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> - 2025-02-28 15:41 -0300
          Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 05:42 +0000
            Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-05 21:30 +0000
        Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> - 2025-02-26 21:17 -0300
    Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-02-26 02:12 +0000
    Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall Robert <monstoor@spammedia.com> - 2025-02-26 19:19 +0000
    Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-02-26 20:15 +0000
      Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-05 21:30 +0000
    Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-02-27 07:24 +1000
    Re: Microsoft notepad.exe paywall Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-02-27 08:49 +0000

#26680 — Microsoft notepad.exe paywall

After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad
=====================================================================
<https://static.tweaktown.com/news/1/0/103367_213332_microsoft-just-
put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-paywall.png>

If you want full access to Notepad, Microsoft now requires users to
pay, with the new changes to 40-year-old software adopting the
'freemium' model.

TL;DR: Microsoft has introduced a paywall for Notepad, requiring a
Microsoft 365 subscription to access new features like the AI-powered
Rewrite tool.

Notepad has been around for more than 40 years, and throughout that
time, Microsoft made simple software free, but that time has now come
to an end, or at least if you want full access to Notepad.

<https://static.tweaktown.com/news/1/0/103367_156651156_microsoft-
just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-paywall.jpg>

After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad

The age of Notepad having a paywall has arrived, with the simple
writing software now prompting users to sign into a Microsoft account
to access new tools such as Rewrite, a new feature that uses
artificial intelligence to rewrite highlighted text. Users attempting
to use the new feature will be prompted with a Microsoft account
sign-in page, and if the account doesn't have an active Microsoft 365
membership, the user will be required to sign up. This is the
paywall.

It should be noted that you can still use Notepad without a Microsoft
account, and users can go as far as removing the Rewrite icon
completely from Notepad. Despite the ability to still use the
software without an account, Microsoft has received some criticism
for implementing what is most definitely a paywall/advertisement for
a built-in piece of Windows software.

This criticism comes after Microsoft slowly started baking in
advertisements for its other services within the Windows 11 operating
system, such as ads for Game Pass within the Settings app, various
ads within the Start Menu, and even File Explorer. As explained by
Windows Central, Microsoft has adopted the "freemium" model for
Notepad, which, for those who don't know, means the initial software
is free to use but has specific features are locked behind paywalls.

From: <https://www.tweaktown.com/news/103367/after-40-years-of-being-
free-microsoft-has-added-paywall-to-notepad/>

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#26681

On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:51:19 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
>After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad
>=====================================================================
><https://static.tweaktown.com/news/1/0/103367_213332_microsoft-just-
>put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-paywall.png>
>If you want full access to Notepad, Microsoft now requires users to
>pay, with the new changes to 40-year-old software adopting the
>'freemium' model.
>TL;DR: Microsoft has introduced a paywall for Notepad, requiring a
>Microsoft 365 subscription to access new features like the AI-powered
>Rewrite tool.
>Notepad has been around for more than 40 years, and throughout that
>time, Microsoft made simple software free, but that time has now come
>to an end, or at least if you want full access to Notepad.
><https://static.tweaktown.com/news/1/0/103367_156651156_microsoft-
>just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-paywall.jpg>
>After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad
>The age of Notepad having a paywall has arrived, with the simple
>writing software now prompting users to sign into a Microsoft account
>to access new tools such as Rewrite, a new feature that uses
>artificial intelligence to rewrite highlighted text. Users attempting
>to use the new feature will be prompted with a Microsoft account
>sign-in page, and if the account doesn't have an active Microsoft 365
>membership, the user will be required to sign up. This is the
>paywall.
>It should be noted that you can still use Notepad without a Microsoft
>account, and users can go as far as removing the Rewrite icon
>completely from Notepad. Despite the ability to still use the
>software without an account, Microsoft has received some criticism
>for implementing what is most definitely a paywall/advertisement for
>a built-in piece of Windows software.
>This criticism comes after Microsoft slowly started baking in
>advertisements for its other services within the Windows 11 operating
>system, such as ads for Game Pass within the Settings app, various
>ads within the Start Menu, and even File Explorer. As explained by
>Windows Central, Microsoft has adopted the "freemium" model for
>Notepad, which, for those who don't know, means the initial software
>is free to use but has specific features are locked behind paywalls.
>From: <https://www.tweaktown.com/news/103367/after-40-years-of-being-
>free-microsoft-has-added-paywall-to-notepad/>

for text editing, these freewares work superbly:

 libre office https://libreoffice.org
 notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
  ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad

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#26693

On Tue, 25 Feb 2025, D wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:51:19 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
>> After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad
>> =====================================================================
>> <https://static.tweaktown.com/news/1/0/103367_213332_microsoft-just-
>> put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-paywall.png>
>> If you want full access to Notepad, Microsoft now requires users to
>> pay, with the new changes to 40-year-old software adopting the
>> 'freemium' model.
>> TL;DR: Microsoft has introduced a paywall for Notepad, requiring a
>> Microsoft 365 subscription to access new features like the AI-powered
>> Rewrite tool.
>> Notepad has been around for more than 40 years, and throughout that
>> time, Microsoft made simple software free, but that time has now come
>> to an end, or at least if you want full access to Notepad.
>> <https://static.tweaktown.com/news/1/0/103367_156651156_microsoft-
>> just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-paywall.jpg>
>> After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad
>> The age of Notepad having a paywall has arrived, with the simple
>> writing software now prompting users to sign into a Microsoft account
>> to access new tools such as Rewrite, a new feature that uses
>> artificial intelligence to rewrite highlighted text. Users attempting
>> to use the new feature will be prompted with a Microsoft account
>> sign-in page, and if the account doesn't have an active Microsoft 365
>> membership, the user will be required to sign up. This is the
>> paywall.
>> It should be noted that you can still use Notepad without a Microsoft
>> account, and users can go as far as removing the Rewrite icon
>> completely from Notepad. Despite the ability to still use the
>> software without an account, Microsoft has received some criticism
>> for implementing what is most definitely a paywall/advertisement for
>> a built-in piece of Windows software.
>> This criticism comes after Microsoft slowly started baking in
>> advertisements for its other services within the Windows 11 operating
>> system, such as ads for Game Pass within the Settings app, various
>> ads within the Start Menu, and even File Explorer. As explained by
>> Windows Central, Microsoft has adopted the "freemium" model for
>> Notepad, which, for those who don't know, means the initial software
>> is free to use but has specific features are locked behind paywalls.
>> From: <https://www.tweaktown.com/news/103367/after-40-years-of-being-
>> free-microsoft-has-added-paywall-to-notepad/>
>
> for text editing, these freewares work superbly:
>
> libre office https://libreoffice.org
> notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
>  ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
>

Ahhh... wonderful news! Microsoft becoming more and more irrelevant for 
the desktop every year.

I'm convinced they will eventually make windows free with surveillance, 
since no one will want to pay for the crap eventually.

With android, chromebooks, linux, ipads, mac os there's plenty of way 
better options out there. I feel as if Microsoft, due to its cloud focus, 
is slowly losing their grip on the desktop market! =D

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#26701

D <nospam@example.net> writes:

> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025, D wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:51:19 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
>>> After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to
>>> Notepad
>>> =====================================================================
>>
>> for text editing, these freewares work superbly:
>>
>> libre office https://libreoffice.org notetab lite
>> https://notetab.com/notetab-light ted notepad
>> https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
>>

Emacs can be run on Windows too.

>
> Ahhh... wonderful news! Microsoft becoming more and more irrelevant
> for the desktop every year.
>
> I'm convinced they will eventually make windows free with
> surveillance, since no one will want to pay for the crap eventually.
>
> With android, chromebooks, linux, ipads, mac os there's plenty of way
> better options out there. I feel as if Microsoft, due to its cloud
> focus, is slowly losing their grip on the desktop market! =D

I don't feel confident that Google doesn't spy on me, or that it is not
cloud focused.

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#26703

On Wed, 26 Feb 2025, Richmond wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>
>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025, D wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:51:19 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
>>>> After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to
>>>> Notepad
>>>> =====================================================================
>>>
>>> for text editing, these freewares work superbly:
>>>
>>> libre office https://libreoffice.org notetab lite
>>> https://notetab.com/notetab-light ted notepad
>>> https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
>>>
>
> Emacs can be run on Windows too.
>
>>
>> Ahhh... wonderful news! Microsoft becoming more and more irrelevant
>> for the desktop every year.
>>
>> I'm convinced they will eventually make windows free with
>> surveillance, since no one will want to pay for the crap eventually.
>>
>> With android, chromebooks, linux, ipads, mac os there's plenty of way
>> better options out there. I feel as if Microsoft, due to its cloud
>> focus, is slowly losing their grip on the desktop market! =D
>
> I don't feel confident that Google doesn't spy on me, or that it is not
> cloud focused.
>

Google? The only time I use google is on behalf of one of my customers, so 
if they want google to spy on them and their IP, by all means!

Personally, and in my own company, not a google or microsoft product as 
far as the eye can see! =D

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#26705

D <nospam@example.net> writes:

> On Wed, 26 Feb 2025, Richmond wrote:
>
>> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025, D wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:51:19 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
>>>>> After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to
>>>>> Notepad
>>>>> =====================================================================
>>>>
>>>> for text editing, these freewares work superbly:
>>>>
>>>> libre office https://libreoffice.org notetab lite
>>>> https://notetab.com/notetab-light ted notepad
>>>> https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
>>>>
>>
>> Emacs can be run on Windows too.
>>
>>>
>>> Ahhh... wonderful news! Microsoft becoming more and more irrelevant
>>> for the desktop every year.
>>>
>>> I'm convinced they will eventually make windows free with
>>> surveillance, since no one will want to pay for the crap eventually.
>>>
>>> With android, chromebooks, linux, ipads, mac os there's plenty of way
>>> better options out there. I feel as if Microsoft, due to its cloud
>>> focus, is slowly losing their grip on the desktop market! =D
>>
>> I don't feel confident that Google doesn't spy on me, or that it is not
>> cloud focused.
>>
>
> Google? The only time I use google is on behalf of one of my
> customers, so if they want google to spy on them and their IP, by all
> means!
>
> Personally, and in my own company, not a google or microsoft product
> as far as the eye can see! =D

You listed Chromebooks and Android, now you are saying "Google?".

Chromebooks are very cloud focused I think.

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#26723

On Wed, 26 Feb 2025, Richmond wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 26 Feb 2025, Richmond wrote:
>>
>>> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025, D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:51:19 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
>>>>>> After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to
>>>>>> Notepad
>>>>>> =====================================================================
>>>>>
>>>>> for text editing, these freewares work superbly:
>>>>>
>>>>> libre office https://libreoffice.org notetab lite
>>>>> https://notetab.com/notetab-light ted notepad
>>>>> https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Emacs can be run on Windows too.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ahhh... wonderful news! Microsoft becoming more and more irrelevant
>>>> for the desktop every year.
>>>>
>>>> I'm convinced they will eventually make windows free with
>>>> surveillance, since no one will want to pay for the crap eventually.
>>>>
>>>> With android, chromebooks, linux, ipads, mac os there's plenty of way
>>>> better options out there. I feel as if Microsoft, due to its cloud
>>>> focus, is slowly losing their grip on the desktop market! =D
>>>
>>> I don't feel confident that Google doesn't spy on me, or that it is not
>>> cloud focused.
>>>
>>
>> Google? The only time I use google is on behalf of one of my
>> customers, so if they want google to spy on them and their IP, by all
>> means!
>>
>> Personally, and in my own company, not a google or microsoft product
>> as far as the eye can see! =D
>
> You listed Chromebooks and Android, now you are saying "Google?".
>
> Chromebooks are very cloud focused I think.

I think they can be degoogled, just like android.

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#26730

Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:

> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>
>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025, D wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:51:19 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver
>>> <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
>>>> After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to
>>>> Notepad
>>>> =====================================================================
>>>
>>> for text editing, these freewares work superbly:
>>>
>>> libre office https://libreoffice.org notetab lite
>>> https://notetab.com/notetab-light ted notepad
>>> https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
>>>
>
> Emacs can be run on Windows too.

And I've used it for over ten years, which made me even enjoy Windows.
I had to bring together a lot of programs, though.  For instance, when
you load ESHELL, you still need various UNIX programs to be comfortable
such as find, cat and so on.  Sure, ESHELL provides many replacements
with built-in Lisp procedures, but not everything.

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#26782

Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> writes:

> And I've used it for over ten years, which made me even enjoy Windows.
> I had to bring together a lot of programs, though.  For instance, when
> you load ESHELL, you still need various UNIX programs to be comfortable
> such as find, cat and so on.

I think enjoying Windows is taking it a little too far. But I do enjoy
Emacs, even in Windows, especially since I discovered ORG mode.

For installing Emacs on Windows, in my opinion it's best done now from
MSYS2. They even say this on
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/download.html#nonfree

"MSYS2 users can install Emacs (64bits build) with the following:

pacman -S mingw-w64-x86_64-emacs"

So MSYS2 first for all the command line tools and others. The Konsole
terminal is also now available via MSYS2.

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#26786

Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> writes:

> Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> writes:
>
>> And I've used it for over ten years, which made me even enjoy Windows.
>> I had to bring together a lot of programs, though.  For instance, when
>> you load ESHELL, you still need various UNIX programs to be comfortable
>> such as find, cat and so on.
>
> I think enjoying Windows is taking it a little too far. But I do enjoy
> Emacs, even in Windows, especially since I discovered ORG mode.
>
> For installing Emacs on Windows, in my opinion it's best done now from
> MSYS2. They even say this on
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/download.html#nonfree
>
> "MSYS2 users can install Emacs (64bits build) with the following:
>
> pacman -S mingw-w64-x86_64-emacs"
>
> So MSYS2 first for all the command line tools and others. The Konsole
> terminal is also now available via MSYS2.

I second that.  Funny---Windows must behave like UNIX so that we can use
it. :)

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#26800

On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 11:56:59 +0000, Richmond wrote:

> Emacs can be run on Windows too.

Maybe not “run” on Windows, maybe more like “walk”.

Maybe not “walk”, maybe more like “limp” on Windows.

Maybe not “limp”, maybe more like “stumble” on Dimdows.

Maybe not “stumble”, more like “fall down and have difficulty getting up 
again” ...

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#26818

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 05:42 this Sunday (GMT):
> On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 11:56:59 +0000, Richmond wrote:
>
>> Emacs can be run on Windows too.
>
> Maybe not “run” on Windows, maybe more like “walk”.
>
> Maybe not “walk”, maybe more like “limp” on Windows.
>
> Maybe not “limp”, maybe more like “stumble” on Dimdows.
>
> Maybe not “stumble”, more like “fall down and have difficulty getting up 
> again” ...


There's always WSL, I guess.
-- 
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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#26731

D <nospam@example.net> writes:

> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025, D wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:51:19 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver
>> <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
>>> After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad

[...]

> Ahhh... wonderful news! Microsoft becoming more and more irrelevant
> for the desktop every year.
>
> I'm convinced they will eventually make windows free with
> surveillance, since no one will want to pay for the crap eventually.
>
> With android, chromebooks, linux, ipads, mac os there's plenty of way
> better options out there. I feel as if Microsoft, due to its cloud
> focus, is slowly losing their grip on the desktop market! =D

It does feel that way.

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#26699

Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
> After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad
> =====================================================================
> <https://static.tweaktown.com/news/1/0/103367_213332_microsoft-just-
> put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-paywall.png>
> 
> If you want full access to Notepad, Microsoft now requires users to
> pay, with the new changes to 40-year-old software adopting the
> 'freemium' model.
> 
> TL;DR: Microsoft has introduced a paywall for Notepad, requiring a
> Microsoft 365 subscription to access new features like the AI-powered
> Rewrite tool.

Not interested in "the AI-powered rewrite tool" - so not a problem.

That and the only win box I have is $job's win laptop.  

Still no interest in the ai-powered rewrite tool in either case.

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#26713

On 25/02/2025 16:51, Ben Collver wrote:

> After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad
> =====================================================================

Not used Windows for years but surely users can just install something 
like Notepad++ to replace it?

Cheers,
-- 
Rob
"I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational 
in order to prove that you care, or, indeed, why it should be necessary 
to prove it at all." - Avon, Blake's 7

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#26716

Wine comes with a notepad app called Wine Notepad. Perhaps it would run
on Windows?

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#26819

Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote at 20:15 this Wednesday (GMT):
> Wine comes with a notepad app called Wine Notepad. Perhaps it would run
> on Windows?


Oh, that's different from the "real" notepad? I thought it just copied
the exe.
-- 
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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#26717

Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
> After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad
> =====================================================================
> <https://static.tweaktown.com/news/1/0/103367_213332_microsoft-just-
> put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-paywall.png>
> 
> If you want full access to Notepad, Microsoft now requires users to
> pay, with the new changes to 40-year-old software adopting the
> 'freemium' model.
> 
> TL;DR: Microsoft has introduced a paywall for Notepad, requiring a
> Microsoft 365 subscription to access new features like the AI-powered
> Rewrite tool.

Besides putting ads in Notepad, the other night the ABC TV news in
Australia had a report about people complaining against price hikes
to M$ 365 in exchange for added AI features that were quietly
enabled by default. Clearly the word has gone out that AI needs to
start paying its way, and it'll be interesting to see if there
really are enough users willing to pay for it.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-25/microsoft-365-subscription-price-hike-consumer-complaints-accc/104965682

This, somewhat long-winded, article expresses strong doubts
about the future of the AI industry as a whole:

https://www.wheresyoured.at/longcon/

-- 
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#_ < |\| |< _#

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#26746

On 2025-02-26, Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote or quoted:
>>If you want full access to Notepad, Microsoft now requires users to
>>pay
>
>   I've always grokked "Notepad" as bare-bones software that just
>   has the rock-bottom essentials to qualify as a text editor.

IIRC the original (Win 3 or earlier) "notepad" was little more than one of the
sample programs in their SDK - a simple edit control with a menu and save/load.
In the earlier versions this limited the size of the file it could edit to 32K.

Tend to use Notepad++ when I have to do anything on Windows these days, though
that's getting a bit too smart for my liking.

vi and emacs ftw. (Yes, I use both :)

-- 
Ian

"Tamahome!!!" - "Miaka!!!"

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