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Re: high-school presentation, suggestions?

From kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: high-school presentation, suggestions?
Date 2024-03-24 01:49 +0000
Organization Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000)
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Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote or quoted:
>>I explained to the CIO of a large government agency that a particular
>>system wasn't a computer at all because it wasn't a finite automaton,
>
>  What is a computer?

It's a finite automaton.

>  Is this your own definition, or did you quote it from someone else?

I like to quote from Andrew Tennanbaum's book on the subject.

>  Are there any other definitions?

I suppose there are, since there are people whose job title is "computer"
and we do have devices like the B-29 fire control computer which compute
but are not actually finite automata.

Our computer security people wanted us to put encryption software on E-6B
slide rules because they were on the inventory as "portable computers."

>  How do you know which definition to choose as the correct one?

I think in the 21st century, everyone assumes a computer to be a finite
automaton or something mathematically equivalent.  That is, turing-machine-
equivalent except for having a finite length tape.
--scott
-- 
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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