Re: Do you use a password manager?

From	Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.misc, comp.unix.misc, comp.misc
Subject	Re: Do you use a password manager?
Date	2021-07-13 15:48 +0000
Organization	Miskatonic U
Message-ID	<slrnserdds.17it.g.kreme@m1mini.local> (permalink)
References	<sch3ep$87h$1@dont-email.me> <sch9i1$k05$1@dont-email.me> <874kcz5pqn.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <slrnsep7nj.n14.g.kreme@m1mini.local> <87zgur47bv.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>

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In message <87zgur47bv.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> writes:
>> In message <874kcz5pqn.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
>>> I use PasswordSafe https://pwsafe.org/ .
>>
>>> It's a Windows application with clones available for Android, iOS, and Mac.
>>
>>> There's a Linux version, available as "passwordsafe" in the Ubuntu repos
>>> (and presumably others), but I haven't gotten it to work.
>>
>>> password-gorilla is a Linux application that uses the same file format
>>> and should be available in the package repos for most distributions.
>>
>>> Keeping the database synchronized across devices is left as an exercise.
>>
>> And that means you end up with not having the password you need unless
>> you limit your use of the Internet to a single machine.

> Not if I replicate the encrypted database across the machines I use.

Yes, because you are perfect and will ALWAYS sync on EVERY change.

Not going to happen. You will forget and you will will be caught out
without some recent change or update because you are NOT perfect. Sorry,
but those are just facts.

> I understand that that could open a potential security hole if
> I'm not sufficiently careful.  But if I *am* sufficiently careful,
> my database doesn't exist on anyone else's server.

Whopdie doo. That doesn’t make it more secure, you know, just more
obscure, more fragile, more prone to failure, and more likely that you
do not have the information you need when you need it.


-- 
'Now what?' it said. IT'S UP TO YOU. IT'S ALWAYS UP TO YOU.
	--Maskerade

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Do you use a password manager? Unbreakable Disease <unbreakable@secmail.pro> - 2021-07-12 09:53 +0000
  Re: Do you use a password manager? Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2021-07-12 07:37 -0400
    Re: Do you use a password manager? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-07-12 07:41 -0400
    Re: Do you use a password manager? "Andy K." <andy.k466@gmail.com> - 2021-07-12 15:14 +0200
      Re: Do you use a password manager? Unbreakable Disease <unbreakable@secmail.pro> - 2021-07-12 21:45 +0000
    Re: Do you use a password manager? Scott Alfter <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> - 2021-07-12 15:17 +0000
      Re: Do you use a password manager? Lamey <lametroll@invalid.invalid> - 2021-07-12 09:36 -0600
        Re: Do you use a password manager? Unbreakable Disease <unbreakable@secmail.pro> - 2021-07-12 21:46 +0000
        Re: Do you use a password manager? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2021-07-19 10:43 -0400
    Re: Do you use a password manager? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-07-12 15:40 +0000
    Re: Do you use a password manager? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-07-12 11:52 -0700
      Re: Do you use a password manager? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2021-07-12 19:58 +0000
        Re: Do you use a password manager? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-07-12 13:15 -0700
          Re: Do you use a password manager? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-07-12 16:27 -0400
            Re: Do you use a password manager? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-07-12 13:48 -0700
              Re: Do you use a password manager? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-07-12 17:14 -0400
                Re: Do you use a password manager? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-07-12 14:43 -0700
                Re: Do you use a password manager? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-07-12 18:11 -0400
                Re: Do you use a password manager? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-07-12 15:52 -0700
                Re: Do you use a password manager? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-07-12 19:18 -0400
                Re: Do you use a password manager? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-07-12 16:57 -0700
                Re: Do you use a password manager? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-07-12 20:25 -0400
                Re: Do you use a password manager? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-07-12 21:41 -0700
                Re: Do you use a password manager? Unbreakable Disease <unbreakable@secmail.pro> - 2021-07-14 07:10 +0000
                Re: Do you use a password manager? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-07-13 01:08 +0000
                Re: Do you use a password manager? Scott Alfter <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> - 2021-07-13 14:43 +0000
                Re: Do you use a password manager? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2021-07-13 15:59 +0000
                Re: Do you use a password manager? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-07-13 13:55 -0700
          Re: Do you use a password manager? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2021-07-13 15:48 +0000
            Re: Do you use a password manager? Unbreakable Disease <unbreakable@secmail.pro> - 2021-07-14 07:04 +0000
    Re: Do you use a password manager? om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) - 2021-07-16 16:34 +0300
      Re: Do you use a password manager? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-07-16 15:06 +0000
        Re: Do you use a password manager? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2021-07-16 20:10 +0000
          Re: Do you use a password manager? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-07-16 21:51 +0000
            Re: Do you use a password manager? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2021-07-16 22:05 +0000
              Re: Do you use a password manager? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-07-16 22:19 +0000
      Re: Do you use a password manager? Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2021-07-16 11:19 -0400
    Re: Do you use a password manager? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2021-07-19 10:42 -0400
      Re: Do you use a password manager? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-07-19 11:08 -0700
        Re: Do you use a password manager? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-07-19 14:12 -0400
        Re: Do you use a password manager? Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2021-07-19 20:07 +0000
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        Re: Do you use a password manager? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-07-20 09:15 +0100
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        Re: Do you use a password manager? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2021-07-20 16:39 -0400
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