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Re: [Link Posting] Phone Numbers Were Never Meant as ID. Now We're All At Risk

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Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid>:
>> Just another lie. Yet there are people who can't understand why some
>> of us don't trust government.
>
> The same people who swear by the US Constitution trust the government
> the least.
>
> So is the US Constitution an utter failure or not? Or is the problem
> with the quality of the citizenry?

More that there is the realization of the fallibility of man, and the
reasonably well-documented proof that governments tend toward amassing
power ... and the more power there is, the more potential for
corruption.

>
> There are more modern countries with fresher constitutions and more
> functioning governments. It's funny how the Americans by and large want
> their governments to stay away from their lives while in Finland (where
> I live) people constantly demand the government do more for them.

Sparknotes version of it is that the US was pretty much founded on the
idea that "the government" is a required evil to ensure that (in
general), the governed people retain their liberties.

To that end, when the US Constitution was written, the states would not
ratify it without the Bill of Rights being added in (NOTE -- those
amendments are not _granting_ the people anything they didn't already
have), as the state governments and, by extension, the people governed
were (rightly) worried that at some point in the future, the government
could become tyrannical (or at the very least, infringe on those
rights).

We can see some of that happening in places like Canada, where "hate
speech(tm)" laws have been enacted.  Whereas here, I can legally say
anything I want about some dude dressing up in his wife's clothes,
without being arrested for "saying mean thingsi(tm)" (or whatever).


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[Link Posting] Phone Numbers Were Never Meant as ID. Now We're All At Risk Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2018-08-26 14:06 +0000
  Re: [Link Posting] Phone Numbers Were Never Meant as ID. Now We're All At Risk Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-08-27 09:05 +0000
    Re: [Link Posting] Phone Numbers Were Never Meant as ID. Now We're All At Risk mausg@mail.com - 2018-08-27 15:23 +0000
  Re: [Link Posting] Phone Numbers Were Never Meant as ID. Now We're All At Risk Nyssa <Nyssa@flawlesslogic.com> - 2018-08-27 09:23 -0400
    Re: [Link Posting] Phone Numbers Were Never Meant as ID. Now We're All At Risk Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-08-27 13:58 +0000
    Re: [Link Posting] Phone Numbers Were Never Meant as ID. Now We're All At Risk Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-08-27 15:30 +0100
      Re: [Link Posting] Phone Numbers Were Never Meant as ID. Now We're All At Risk Nyssa <Nyssa@flawlesslogic.com> - 2018-08-27 12:38 -0400
    Re: [Link Posting] Phone Numbers Were Never Meant as ID. Now We're All At Risk Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2018-08-27 15:58 +0000
    Re: [Link Posting] Phone Numbers Were Never Meant as ID. Now We're All At Risk Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2018-08-27 22:52 +0000
      Re: [Link Posting] Phone Numbers Were Never Meant as ID. Now We're All At Risk Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2018-08-28 08:16 +0300
        Re: [Link Posting] Phone Numbers Were Never Meant as ID. Now We're All At Risk Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-28 11:23 +0000
        Re: [Link Posting] Phone Numbers Were Never Meant as ID. Now We're All At Risk Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2018-08-28 18:04 +0000
          Re: [Link Posting] Phone Numbers Were Never Meant as ID. Now We're All At Risk Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-28 23:21 +0000
      Re: [Link Posting] Phone Numbers Were Never Meant as ID. Now We're All At Risk Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-08-28 07:52 +0000
      Re: [Link Posting] Phone Numbers Were Never Meant as ID. Now We're All At Risk Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2018-08-28 11:03 +0000

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