Re: Another UI anti-pattern

From	Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: Another UI anti-pattern
Date	2015-09-07 23:30 +1000
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On 7/09/2015 10:24 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> writes:
>> If you want to search something, you click on the magnifying glass
>
>    (Here a general UI rant is following that is not directly
>    related to your specific complaint.)
>
>    Sorry when I interrupt here, but this already is a major
>    anti-pattern for /me/: Having to /click/, that is having to
>    /use the mouse/, not being able to use the keyboard for
>    something!
>
>    I do not bother to care for single »UI anti-pattern«s
>    anymore because there is such a disaster in the UIs today
>    that all the details do not matter to me.
>
>    To explain what I refer to: In the 90s on Windows, there was
>    a standard UI, where the program menu was the default means
>    to trigger an action.
>
>    A program menu has advantages compared to both text commands
>    entered via the keyboard and symbols clicked by the mouse.
>
>    An advantage compared to text commands is that a menu is its
>    own help manual. One does not need to learn or lookup the
>    commands, they are all there in the program menu! Both
>    keyboard and mouse users can use program menus because they
>    are accessibly both with the keyboard and with the mouse.
>
>    Program menus are better than symbols because the symbols
>    often are not accessible via the keyboard. Moreover, often
>    symbols are displayed continuously taking aways screen real
>    estate, which is precious on small portable device, while
>    menus are small and hidden when not used.
>
>    In the 90s, many programs (including the Microsoft® Windows
>    Explorer and Microsoft® Office) had program menus. So one
>    immediately felt home in every application with program menus.
>
>    Nowadays, every application invents its own UI system.
>    Program menus are not a standard anymore. One has to learn
>    the UI system of every program anew. Sometimes this means
>    that one really is required to use the slow mouse input
>    instead of the keyboard.
>

Only hackers use keyboards now - don't you watch CSI Cyber?

Sylvia.

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