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Re: DuckDuckGo: finally tracks me?

From Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: DuckDuckGo: finally tracks me?
Date 2017-03-31 18:33 +0000
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>>>>> Michael Forsythe <forsythe@example.com> writes:
>>>>> Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> wrote:

 >> Contrary to virtually all the other major search engines out there,
 >> DuckDuckGo used to provide "direct" links to the pages found, like:
 >> http://example.com/.

 >> As it seems, it changed around January 12th, and now the links are
 >> redirected via their server instead, like [1]:

 >> https://duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=http%3A%2F%2Fexample.com%2F

[...]

 > For what it's worth, I don't see this when browsing normally - I get
 > direct links.

 > $ curl -s https://duckduckgo.com/html -F "q=example.com"|grep uddg 
 > $ 

 > But I do see this if I GET the page.

 > $ curl -s "https://duckduckgo.com/html?q=example.com"|grep uddg|wc -l 
 > 108
 > $ 

	Indeed, that seems to be the case.  Thanks!

 > Also, somebody on stackexchange asked about this a few years ago[0],
 > so it's not new.  The answer on stackexchange ("DDG is really helping
 > you by sanitizing referers") doesn't sit well with me - my web
 > browser doesn't send referers thankyouverymuch

	FWIW, I've seen a site or two that pretty much require Referer:
	for at least some of the queries.

 > - but I think it actually checks out; the referer can't include
 > parameters sent over POST, so there's no need for DDG to sanitize if
 > I POSTed my query.

	Yes.  I think I may've seen such behavior for some User-Agent:
	values before.  So, I guess they've dropped whatever logic they
	had there and use redirects for all the GET searches instead.

 > [0] http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/73312/
 > are-duckduckgo-redirects-a-privacy-issue

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DuckDuckGo: finally tracks me? Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> - 2017-03-31 07:13 +0000
  Re: DuckDuckGo: finally tracks me? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-03-31 08:33 +0100
    Re: DuckDuckGo: finally tracks me? Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> - 2017-03-31 08:07 +0000
  Re: DuckDuckGo: finally tracks me? Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> - 2017-03-31 18:28 +0200
  Re: DuckDuckGo: finally tracks me? Michael Forsythe <forsythe@example.com> - 2017-03-31 17:34 +0000
    Re: DuckDuckGo: finally tracks me? Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> - 2017-03-31 18:33 +0000
  Re: DuckDuckGo: finally tracks me? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-04-01 02:08 +0000
    Re: DuckDuckGo: finally tracks me? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-04-01 02:17 +0000
    Re: DuckDuckGo: finally tracks me? Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2017-04-01 05:51 +0000
    Re: DuckDuckGo: finally tracks me? Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> - 2017-04-05 05:57 +0000
      Re: DuckDuckGo: finally tracks me? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-04-05 23:08 +0000
        Re: DuckDuckGo: finally tracks me? Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> - 2017-04-06 17:25 +0000

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