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Re: Downwardly Scalable Systems

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From not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Subject Re: Downwardly Scalable Systems
Newsgroups comp.misc
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Date 2024-04-14 08:48 +1000
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Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote or quoted:
>>programming languages that "scale down".
> 
>  David forgot to tell use what it means for a programming language
>  to "scale down".

Wasn't that in the second paragraph?

"Good systems should be able to scale down as well as up. They 
 should run on slower computers that don't have as much memory or 
 disk storage as the latest models. Likewise, from the human point 
 of view, downwardly scalable systems should also be small enough to 
 learn and use without being an expert programmer." ...

I read it mainly out of interest in his ideas for the first aspect
with running on slower computers, but it turns out he doesn't
really discuss that at all. They tend to be contradictory goals, so
without proposing a way to unify them it makes that aspect purely
aspirational.

In fact in terms of memory and disk storage GCC keeps going
backwards that even for C/C++. Compiling large C/C++ programs with
-Os in ever newer GCC versions keeps producing ever bigger binaries
for unchanged code. Of course other compilers are available and I'm
not sure how other popular ones compare.

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Downwardly Scalable Systems Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> - 2024-04-13 15:56 +0000
  Re: Downwardly Scalable Systems David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> - 2024-04-13 18:33 +0000
    Re: Downwardly Scalable Systems kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-04-13 19:28 +0000
  Re: Downwardly Scalable Systems not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-04-14 08:48 +1000
    Re: Downwardly Scalable Systems Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> - 2024-04-13 23:54 +0000
    Re: Downwardly Scalable Systems D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-14 20:48 +0200
      Re: Downwardly Scalable Systems not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-04-15 08:12 +1000
        Re: Downwardly Scalable Systems D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-15 12:17 +0200
          Re: Downwardly Scalable Systems candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-04-15 14:30 +0000
        Re: Downwardly Scalable Systems Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-04-15 18:40 +0100
          Re: Downwardly Scalable Systems D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-15 21:40 +0200
      Re: Downwardly Scalable Systems kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-04-16 01:47 +0000
        Re: Downwardly Scalable Systems Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-04-16 08:31 +0100
        Re: Downwardly Scalable Systems D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-16 10:52 +0200

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