Stoicism [was: An objective criteria for deprecating community platforms]

From	Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com>
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Subject	Stoicism [was: An objective criteria for deprecating community platforms]
Date	2024-01-16 13:56 +0300
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cr0c0d1le:

> > Sounds fatalistic.  Life is not an unstoppable cosmic
> > force, but rather something we humans forge for
> > ourselves with our decisions and actions.
>
> As someone who practices Stoicism, I would say the reverse
> is true.  Fate is set in stone, but it doesn't mean you
> shouldn't give your 100% in whatever you undertake.

So you have read the big four -- Epictetus, Musonius Rufus,
Marcus Aurelius (not a philosopher), and Seneca (not a
philosopher)?  No, I do not believe fatalism/determinism is
postulated by all stoics, especially the Roman ones, who
concentrated on the practical, ethical aspect.  The main
priciple, I am sure, is realising that man is in control of
his own perceptions and decisions, and cannot (entirely)
control externalities.  This view does not require
determinism, does it?

> Sorry, I went off on a tangent.

Glad you did.

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        Stoicism [was: An objective criteria for deprecating community platforms] Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2024-01-16 13:56 +0300
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            Re: Stoicism [was: An objective criteria for deprecating community platforms] D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-01-17 12:48 +0100
              Re: Stoicism [was: An objective criteria for deprecating community platforms] Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2024-01-17 16:42 +0300
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