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smtp headache

Started byDaniel <me@sc1f1dan.com>
First post2024-06-17 09:02 +0000
Last post2024-06-18 20:37 +0000
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  smtp headache Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2024-06-17 09:02 +0000
    Re: smtp headache "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2024-06-17 11:37 +0200
      Re: smtp headache D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-06-17 17:03 +0200
        Re: smtp headache Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2024-06-18 20:39 +0000
          Re: smtp headache D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-06-18 23:06 +0200
      Re: smtp headache Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2024-06-18 20:38 +0000
    Re: smtp headache Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> - 2024-06-17 10:49 -0600
      Re: smtp headache "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2024-06-17 19:15 +0000
        Re: smtp headache D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-06-17 23:45 +0200
      Re: smtp headache Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2024-06-18 20:37 +0000

#3064 — smtp headache

FromDaniel <me@sc1f1dan.com>
Date2024-06-17 09:02 +0000
Subjectsmtp headache
Message-ID<87le340wo8.fsf@sc1f1dan.com>
Attempting to complete configuration of alpine on ubuntu.

I continue to get the following error while sending:

Sender address rejected: not owned by user <email address>

In the initial area of the error, it shows that my linux username is
concatenated with the imap address

mail not sent: <username@imapaddress>

nowhere is this listed in my configuration.

When I attempt to send the message, it prompts me for a password of the
proper smtp server. Not sure why it is including my linux username
since, I authenticate with my email address as username when I launch
alpine.

It's so strange

I use email from my domain registrar, namecheap.

User Doman: mail.privateemail.com
SMTP Server: smtp.privateemail.com:465/user=myemailaddr/ssl/novalidate-cert

Any hints greatly appreciated.

Daniel

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#3065

From"J.O. Aho" <user@example.net>
Date2024-06-17 11:37 +0200
Message-ID<ldaef0FktouU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#3064
On 17/06/2024 11.02, Daniel wrote:
> Attempting to complete configuration of alpine on ubuntu.
> 
> I continue to get the following error while sending:
> 
> Sender address rejected: not owned by user <email address>
> 
> In the initial area of the error, it shows that my linux username is
> concatenated with the imap address
> 
> mail not sent: <username@imapaddress>
> 
> nowhere is this listed in my configuration.

You could try with:
user-domain=mail.privateemail.example.com


-- 
  //Aho

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#3066

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-06-17 17:03 +0200
Message-ID<63a8eb8d-c9d2-d241-0496-f3bf4e1c8fdb@example.net>
In reply to#3065

On Mon, 17 Jun 2024, J.O. Aho wrote:

> On 17/06/2024 11.02, Daniel wrote:
>> Attempting to complete configuration of alpine on ubuntu.
>> 
>> I continue to get the following error while sending:
>> 
>> Sender address rejected: not owned by user <email address>
>> 
>> In the initial area of the error, it shows that my linux username is
>> concatenated with the imap address
>> 
>> mail not sent: <username@imapaddress>
>> 
>> nowhere is this listed in my configuration.
>
> You could try with:
> user-domain=mail.privateemail.example.com

Hello Daniel,

Another thing you could try is to go to the Main menu and press "J" for 
the journal (log). Maybe you can see something in there to give you (and 
us) a hint.

Best regards,
Daniel

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#3073

FromDaniel <me@sc1f1dan.com>
Date2024-06-18 20:39 +0000
Message-ID<87v826nfyy.fsf@sc1f1dan.com>
In reply to#3066
D <nospam@example.net> writes:

> On Mon, 17 Jun 2024, J.O. Aho wrote:
>
>> On 17/06/2024 11.02, Daniel wrote:
>>> Attempting to complete configuration of alpine on ubuntu.
>>> I continue to get the following error while sending:
>>> Sender address rejected: not owned by user <email address>
>>> In the initial area of the error, it shows that my linux username
>>> is
>>> concatenated with the imap address
>>> mail not sent: <username@imapaddress>
>>> nowhere is this listed in my configuration.
>>
>> You could try with:
>> user-domain=mail.privateemail.example.com
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
> Another thing you could try is to go to the Main menu and press "J"
> for the journal (log). Maybe you can see something in there to give
> you (and us) a hint.
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel

I found the solution above, from Eduardo. The journal provided the exact
error I got on the ui.

my problem is solved now, however.

I'm glad that site's up, and if she ever takes it down, it'll at least
be on the internet archive.

Daniel

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#3074

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-06-18 23:06 +0200
Message-ID<dab03414-224d-3a5d-8889-7428cbde8bfc@example.net>
In reply to#3073

On Tue, 18 Jun 2024, Daniel wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>
>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2024, J.O. Aho wrote:
>>
>>> On 17/06/2024 11.02, Daniel wrote:
>>>> Attempting to complete configuration of alpine on ubuntu.
>>>> I continue to get the following error while sending:
>>>> Sender address rejected: not owned by user <email address>
>>>> In the initial area of the error, it shows that my linux username
>>>> is
>>>> concatenated with the imap address
>>>> mail not sent: <username@imapaddress>
>>>> nowhere is this listed in my configuration.
>>>
>>> You could try with:
>>> user-domain=mail.privateemail.example.com
>>
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>> Another thing you could try is to go to the Main menu and press "J"
>> for the journal (log). Maybe you can see something in there to give
>> you (and us) a hint.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Daniel
>
> I found the solution above, from Eduardo. The journal provided the exact
> error I got on the ui.
>
> my problem is solved now, however.
>
> I'm glad that site's up, and if she ever takes it down, it'll at least
> be on the internet archive.
>
> Daniel
>

Happy to hear it! =)

And if reading "live" from the imap server is slow, you can also use the 
Maildir patch together with mbsync to sync emails to local folders and use 
alpine against those. That will yield a massive increase in speed (if you 
need a speed increase that is).

Best regards,
Daniel

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#3072

FromDaniel <me@sc1f1dan.com>
Date2024-06-18 20:38 +0000
Message-ID<87zfring0n.fsf@sc1f1dan.com>
In reply to#3065
"J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> writes:

> On 17/06/2024 11.02, Daniel wrote:
>> Attempting to complete configuration of alpine on ubuntu.
>> I continue to get the following error while sending:
>> Sender address rejected: not owned by user <email address>
>> In the initial area of the error, it shows that my linux username is
>> concatenated with the imap address
>> mail not sent: <username@imapaddress>
>> nowhere is this listed in my configuration.
>
> You could try with:
> user-domain=mail.privateemail.example.com

I already had that configured. Eduardo's URL supplied the correct
response.

Daniel

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#3067

FromEduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu>
Date2024-06-17 10:49 -0600
Message-ID<03e93ace-79fd-6a3e-3c27-1248f07ffc72@washington.edu>
In reply to#3064
On Mon, 17 Jun 2024, Daniel wrote:

> Attempting to complete configuration of alpine on ubuntu.
>
> I continue to get the following error while sending:
>
> Sender address rejected: not owned by user <email address>

You are probably not setting up your From: field correctly. Here is a 
guide on how to do it.

https://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/changing_from/

-- 
Eduardo
https://alpineapp.email (web)
http://repo.or.cz/alpine.git (Git)

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#3068

From"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
Date2024-06-17 19:15 +0000
Message-ID<v4q20o$sm99$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3067
Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> wrote:
>On Mon, 17 Jun 2024, Daniel wrote:

>>Attempting to complete configuration of alpine on ubuntu.

>>I continue to get the following error while sending:

>>Sender address rejected: not owned by user <email address>

>You are probably not setting up your From: field correctly. Here is a 
>guide on how to do it.

>https://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/changing_from/

I'm glad Nancy McGough is still keeping her Web site up from so long
ago. She had very clear instructions for those new to Pine on how to
perform various tasks and to access features.

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#3069

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2024-06-17 23:45 +0200
Message-ID<5fc5a9f6-bd17-344d-95b3-ae9143aa7810@example.net>
In reply to#3068

On Mon, 17 Jun 2024, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2024, Daniel wrote:
>
>>> Attempting to complete configuration of alpine on ubuntu.
>
>>> I continue to get the following error while sending:
>
>>> Sender address rejected: not owned by user <email address>
>
>> You are probably not setting up your From: field correctly. Here is a
>> guide on how to do it.
>
>> https://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/changing_from/
>
> I'm glad Nancy McGough is still keeping her Web site up from so long
> ago. She had very clear instructions for those new to Pine on how to
> perform various tasks and to access features.
>

Wow! Great resource! And here I spent time piecing together various bits 
and pieces from different blogs. ;)

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#3071

FromDaniel <me@sc1f1dan.com>
Date2024-06-18 20:37 +0000
Message-ID<874j9qoumc.fsf@sc1f1dan.com>
In reply to#3067
Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> writes:

> On Mon, 17 Jun 2024, Daniel wrote:
>
>> Attempting to complete configuration of alpine on ubuntu.
>>
>> I continue to get the following error while sending:
>>
>> Sender address rejected: not owned by user <email address>
>
> You are probably not setting up your From: field correctly. Here is a
> guide on how to do it.
>
> https://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/changing_from/

That did it! What the hell!

Nothing was obvious about that and I'm grateful the lady keeps that page
up even after twenty years. But I'm also grateful yall were here to
assist. Thank you.

I was using alpine solely to browse my emails. Then i had to launch xfce
just to open thunderbird. Now I don't have to.

It does need an update because the roles options have changed, but it
was still doable.

I just wish it didn't take long to 'write fcc into sent' but I'll take
it.

Daniel

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