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| Started by | "Thor Kottelin" <thor@anta.net> |
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| First post | 2014-03-28 11:19 +0200 |
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Unwanted read receipt requests in Outlook 2013 "Thor Kottelin" <thor@anta.net> - 2014-03-28 11:19 +0200
Re: Unwanted read receipt requests in Outlook 2013 Mail Man <Mail@Man.com> - 2014-03-28 08:09 -0400
Re: Unwanted read receipt requests in Outlook 2013 VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2014-03-28 19:02 -0500
Re: Unwanted read receipt requests in Outlook 2013 "Thor Kottelin" <thor@anta.net> - 2014-03-29 22:13 +0200
Re: Unwanted read receipt requests in Outlook 2013 VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2014-03-29 19:21 -0500
| From | "Thor Kottelin" <thor@anta.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-28 11:19 +0200 |
| Subject | Unwanted read receipt requests in Outlook 2013 |
| Message-ID | <t8bZu.9744$SH2.387@uutiset.elisa.fi> |
I'm using Outlook 2013 on a Windows 7 Professional system. When I send mail, the recipient is often prompted to allow a read receipt to be generated for me, the sender. I don't want this behaviour to occur. When I go to the settings, the box for read receipts is not checked. I have tried checking the box, exiting the settings and then unchecking it again, but that hasn't helped. Does anyone know which registry setting controls whether read receipts are requested? -- Thor Kottelin http://www.anta.net/
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| From | Mail Man <Mail@Man.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-28 08:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <53356696.FCC05CCC@Man.com> |
| In reply to | #621 |
Thor Kottelin wrote:
> I'm using Outlook 2013 on a Windows 7 Professional system. When I send
> mail, the recipient is often prompted to allow a read receipt to be
> generated for me, the sender.
>
> the box for read receipts is not checked.
This is why newer is frequently not better.
I'm still using Office 2000 (and Outlook 2000) on Windows 98se (with
KernelEx).
Microsoft's motto:
"If it works, it's not complicated enough"
The Windows NT line of Operating Systems:
"The bloat and vulnerabilities go in before the name goes on"
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2014-03-28 19:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lh52i1$gon$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #621 |
Thor Kottelin wrote: > I'm using Outlook 2013 on a Windows 7 Professional system. When I send > mail, the recipient is often prompted to allow a read receipt to be > generated for me, the sender. > > I don't want this behaviour to occur. When I go to the settings, the box > for read receipts is not checked. I have tried checking the box, exiting > the settings and then unchecking it again, but that hasn't helped. > > Does anyone know which registry setting controls whether read receipts are > requested? There is asking for a read receipt (by the sender from the recipient) and there is answering a read receipt. You're probably only looking at setting for the latter. Your recipient is getting the read receipt request from you. So you need to configure Outlook NOT to ask for read receipts. See http://www.howtogeek.com/171023/how-to-request-a-deliveryread-receipt-in-outlook-2013/. For the recipient not to get a read receipt request from you, disable the "For all message sent" tracking options. Is this your computer (at home) or a work computer (i.e., your company's property on their network)? That is, is the computer your property and you pay for the Internet access, or is the computer someone else's property and connected to their network? If this is not your computer but belongs to the company, they can push policies that override settings in the program. They can also modify your e-mails as they pass through their server. Their property, their rules. I've seen them modify outbound e-mails through their server to append or prepend some nonsense disclaimer that isn't legally enforceable. I've never seen them do this with read receipt requests. In fact, I've seen companies that will strip out the read receipt request headers so employees that try to use it won't get it to work.
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| From | "Thor Kottelin" <thor@anta.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-29 22:13 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <KPFZu.10332$SH2.8882@uutiset.elisa.fi> |
| In reply to | #625 |
"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message news:lh52i1$gon$1@news.albasani.net... > Thor Kottelin wrote: >> I'm using Outlook 2013 on a Windows 7 Professional system. When I send >> mail, the recipient is often prompted to allow a read receipt to be >> generated for me, the sender. >> >> I don't want this behaviour to occur. When I go to the settings, the >> box >> for read receipts is not checked. I have tried checking the box, >> exiting >> the settings and then unchecking it again, but that hasn't helped. > Your recipient is getting the read receipt request from you. So you > need to configure Outlook NOT to ask for read receipts. See > http://www.howtogeek.com/171023/how-to-request-a-deliveryread-receipt-in-outlook-2013/. > For the recipient not to get a read receipt request from you, disable > the "For all message sent" tracking options. > > Is this your computer (at home) or a work computer (i.e., your company's > property on their network)? That is, is the computer your property and > you pay for the Internet access, or is the computer someone else's > property and connected to their network? If this is not your computer > but belongs to the company, they can push policies that override > settings in the program. They can also modify your e-mails as they pass > through their server. Their property, their rules. Thanks, but there are no policies involved, I'm sending mail through the MSA of an ISP, and I have made sure that the box for *requesting* read receipts is unchecked (and I have also selected the radio button that specifies not to *send* read receipts). The problem is that the choice I make in the GUI does not affect the actual configuration. I was hoping to be able to fix that by identifying the relevant registry key and editing it. -- Thor Kottelin http://www.anta.net/
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2014-03-29 19:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lh7o31$dsq$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #626 |
Thor Kottelin wrote: > Thanks, but there are no policies involved, How do you know? Pushing policies is something a company does when their workstations log onto their domain to open a Windows account. Policies do not require a domain server to push them. They can also be configured by the user (i.e., local policies), set by tweaker tools, or even malware can change them. All policies are merely registry entries. If you log under a Windows account that has local admin privileges then you or software can modify the registry. In fact, there are templates you can download and add for some programs to add policies for them (so they appear in the policy editor rather than having to delve into the registry to view or modify them). Since you have a non-Home edition of Windows then you also have the local and group policy editors. Look in there to see if something is listed. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-US/library/cc178992(v=office.15).aspx (scroll to near the end to find the download link) Make sure to bit the bitwidth version of Windows that matches what you have. The files are text that you can view in Notepad. I've never had to define a policy template or disassemble one to know how to read them. I suspect the policy settings are merely copied under the policy keys in the registry under a subkey for the product name. At the top of the Office 2013 admin template, it has a <displayname> XML tag which is probably the name of the key created under the Policies keys under the HKCU and HKLM hives. Of course, if you have nothing for Office under the Policies keys and since you say you are not in a domain to get policies pushed onto your computer then forget about checking policies for the problem's cause. > I'm sending mail through the MSA of an ISP, and I have made sure that > the box for *requesting* read receipts is unchecked (and I have also > selected the radio button that specifies not to *send* read > receipts). > > The problem is that the choice I make in the GUI does not affect the > actual configuration. I was hoping to be able to fix that by > identifying the relevant registry key and editing it. I doubt the settings shown in Outlook are not those stored in the registry. Changing them in the registry is just a backend method of changing them in the UI for the program. You could toggle the options to their opposite setting, exit Outlook, and toggle them back to make sure the program "touches" the settings in the registry to make them match what the config UI shows. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd772637(v=WS.10).aspx That shows what are the registry paths for various versions of Microsoft Office. The "2013" year edition is the 15.0 version so use that in the registry path. Under the ...\Office\<version>\Outlook\Mail\Options key are the settings for Outlook. There is a "Receipt Response" named data item there. These are not on (1) and off (0) values but are probably bitmasked values: different bits in the binary value represent different settings. There is the current user settings stored in the registry. The policies are also stored in the registry so check those, too (look at <hive>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Office\15.0 where <hive> is HKEY_CURRENT_USER and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE). Good luck finding out what is the bitmask definition for each bit to determine which setting it affects. You could exit Outlook, export the Mail key from the registry to a .reg file, delete the receipt response data item, and reload Outlook to see what value it gives to this data item. Deleting and having Outlook recreate the value means the setting got reset, so you'll have to go back into the config UI to make sure the read receipt options are they way you want. Also try: Start Outlook in its safe mode. That eliminates some add-on from modifying Outlook's behavior or altering the message's headers. Then retest in safe mode. If you are appending a signature, disable it and retest. Use the webmail UI to your e-mail account to make sure there isn't a server-side option to request read receipts on your outbound e-mails. Try a different e-mail provider to make sure they aren't modifying your outbound e-mails. Create a free account at Hotmail, Gmail, or Yahoo (who recently added SMTP/POP/IMAP access for free accounts), add a new account in Outlook, and retest for the unwanted and non-configured read receipt request problem. As an afterthought, first send yourself a test e-mail to an account OTHER than with your current e-mail provider. That is, send a test e-mail through your account to a different account with a different e-mail provider (to ensure all headers are present which won't happen if an e-mail is internally routed within the same e-mail provider from one of their accounts to another of their accounts). Then look at the headers. See if there are headers that request a read receipt. If there are no such headers then the problem is not on your end. The header(s) MUST be present for the recipient's e-mail client to act on or to ignore them. The following are the headers which request the recipient to send a read receipt e-mail: Disposition-Notification-To (for read receipt) Return-Receipt-To (for delivery receipt) /_Read Receipts_/ - Read receipts are handled by the user's e-mail client. The e-mail must be delivered into their account AND the user must view (open) the e-mail. If the e-mail doesn't make it into their account, say, due to [pre-]filtering then the user cannot open it to have their client generate a read receipt e-mail to send back to you (assuming they have their client configured to always send a read receipt or to prompt to send one and they agree). If their e-mail arrives in their account and only AFTER opening it will the client send a read receipt (if so configured). /*_Delivery Receipts_/ - A delivery receipt only requests the receiving mail server to send a return receipt e-mail saying it got the e-mail. That does not guarantee the e-mail got to the recipient's mailbox for them to see it. Few mail servers honor the delivery receipt request. It is overhead they don't need to handle. They already provide a negative delivery receipt: the absence of error. If the e-mail is not rejected then it got delivered, so NOT getting a DSN (delivery status notification) or an NDR (non-delivery report) from your sending mail server means they accepted the e-mail. No error returned by your sending mail server trying to send to the receiving mail server means they connected okay to the receiving mail server. The absence of a send error and any receive errors means the e-mail got delivered. Mail servers have no reason to bother with requests for delivery receipts. They already provide that info. Silence is golden.
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