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Re: Is Ruby Dying?

Newsgroups comp.lang.ruby
Date 2014-12-16 10:05 -0800
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Subject Re: Is Ruby Dying?
From KlausG <KDiddy1@web.de>

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Am Freitag, 7. Februar 2014 20:21:39 UTC+1 schrieb SD!:
> On 2013-12-24 16:52:50 +0000, John Moses said:
> 
> > http://jmoses.co/2013/12/21/is-ruby-dying.html
> > 
> > I have been working with nodejs alot lately and have been discussing 
> > with coworkers if nodejs is taking steam away from ruby at all. I think 
> > the popularity of the language is an important talking point when 
> > selecting a language and framework for a new project.
> > 
> > I think a graph on the release date of gems over time could help 
> > determine an answer. The front page of rubygems only shows data on the 
> > most popular, but I am really interested in seeing recent activity. My 
> > theory is that if developers' contributions to different gems is 
> > slowing down, then so is the popularity of the language.
> 
> Ruby as a language is the most beautiful thing ever devised since 6502 
> assembly! :-) And no web framework of the month is going to change 
> this. But - no matter what some people are going to say about this - 
> IMHO one of the biggest obstacles for taking Ruby into more use is 
> actually the gems system. Gems should be repackaged as regular packages 
> (e. g. for Debian/Ubuntu) and available from within te system's regular 
> packaging/installation mechanisms. There should be NO special 
> treatments necessary. No rvms, no gems, no nothing else than system's 
> native packages that any and every admin could just simply install the 
> same way as virtually every other package.
> 
> As long as there will be arguments against this (read: excuses) only 
> the fans of Ruby will always want to deal with the non-system-standard 
> installation/distribution mechanisms. I am a fan of Ruby but I can't 
> make it easy for Ruby indifferent admins to set whole Ruby ecosystem up 
> and running (reliably).
> 
> -- 
> SD!

So you suggest, that every gem developer has to provide:
- a package for debian/ubuntu
- a package fur SUSE/other linuxes
- a installation programm for Windows
- a Java Package for JRuby
- a package for iOS
so that every platform has a "native package" ??
Sorry, no.

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Is Ruby Dying? John Moses <moses.john.r@gmail.com> - 2013-12-24 08:52 -0800
  Re: Is Ruby Dying? SD! <email@domain.com> - 2014-02-07 20:21 +0100
    Re: Is Ruby Dying? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-15 21:02 +0000
    Re: Is Ruby Dying? KlausG <KDiddy1@web.de> - 2014-12-16 10:05 -0800
      Re: Is Ruby Dying? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-17 03:04 +0000
    Re: Is Ruby Dying? Ryan VanMaele <ryan.vanmaele@gmail.com> - 2014-12-16 14:33 -0800
  Re: Is Ruby Dying? José Alves <jose.tapadas@gmail.com> - 2014-12-23 09:36 -0800

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