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Re: OT: usenet reader software

Started byMartin S <shieldfire@gmail.com>
First post2014-07-19 07:28 +0200
Last post2014-07-22 18:09 +0200
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  Re: OT: usenet reader software Martin S <shieldfire@gmail.com> - 2014-07-19 07:28 +0200
    Re: OT: usenet reader software Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-19 09:10 +0300
      Re: OT: usenet reader software Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-19 16:20 +1000
        Re: OT: usenet reader software Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-19 09:51 +0300
          Re: OT: usenet reader software Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-19 17:02 +1000
            Re: OT: usenet reader software Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-19 10:32 +0300
              Re: OT: usenet reader software Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-19 17:40 +1000
                Re: OT: usenet reader software Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-19 10:54 +0300
      Re: OT: usenet reader software Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2014-07-22 18:22 +0300
        Re: OT: usenet reader software Martin S <shieldfire@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 18:09 +0200

#74790 — Re: OT: usenet reader software

FromMartin S <shieldfire@gmail.com>
Date2014-07-19 07:28 +0200
SubjectRe: OT: usenet reader software
Message-ID<mailman.12029.1405747735.18130.python-list@python.org>

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Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542.

(Just curiou) 

/martin s

On 18 Jul 2014, memilanuk <memilanuk@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 07/18/2014 02:45 PM, Sturla Molden wrote:
>> memilanuk <memilanuk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Used leafnode way back when... correct me if I'm wrong, but if
>memory
>>> serves its a small news spool /server, not really a client/reader
>type
>>> application.  Used to be popular back before slrnpull came about.
>>
>> Leafnode is an NNTP proxy server. It allows you to filter messages on
>> headers, etc. Just run Leafnode and tell Thunderbird to use localhost
>as
>> NNTP server. Whomever you plonk with Leafnode's killfilter will never
>be
>> seen in Thunderbird.
>>
>
>Ah... I see.  Guess I never explored that facet of leafnode's
>functionality.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Monte

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#74792

FromMarko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Date2014-07-19 09:10 +0300
Message-ID<87tx6dyj3b.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net>
In reply to#74790
Martin S <shieldfire@gmail.com>:

> Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise
> overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542.

Well, here you are at <URL: news:comp.lang.python>, in the middle of all
that noise.


Marko

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#74793

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2014-07-19 16:20 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.12031.1405750849.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#74792
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
> Martin S <shieldfire@gmail.com>:
>
>> Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise
>> overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542.
>
> Well, here you are at <URL: news:comp.lang.python>, in the middle of all
> that noise.

Or at python-list@python.org - a lot of the newsgroup spam simply
doesn't make it across the bridge.

ChrisA

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#74794

FromMarko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Date2014-07-19 09:51 +0300
Message-ID<87pph1yh7o.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net>
In reply to#74793
Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>:

> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
>> Martin S <shieldfire@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise
>>> overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542.
>>
>> Well, here you are at <URL: news:comp.lang.python>, in the middle of
>> all that noise.
>
> Or at python-list@python.org - a lot of the newsgroup spam simply
> doesn't make it across the bridge.

Spam? What spam?

There's a lot of hot air but I have yet to encounter spam.


Marko

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#74795

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2014-07-19 17:02 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.12032.1405753763.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#74794
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
> Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
>>> Martin S <shieldfire@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise
>>>> overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542.
>>>
>>> Well, here you are at <URL: news:comp.lang.python>, in the middle of
>>> all that noise.
>>
>> Or at python-list@python.org - a lot of the newsgroup spam simply
>> doesn't make it across the bridge.
>
> Spam? What spam?
>
> There's a lot of hot air but I have yet to encounter spam.

That means you have good filtering. There are several levels of spam
filtering happening. Fortunately, they do a pretty good job of
catching most of it; I occasionally see junk mail on the list, but
most of it gets caught and discarded.

ChrisA

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#74797

FromMarko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Date2014-07-19 10:32 +0300
Message-ID<87fvhxyfaw.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net>
In reply to#74795
Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>:

> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
>> There's a lot of hot air but I have yet to encounter spam.
>
> That means you have good filtering.

Interesting. Who's filtering comp.lang.python?


Marko

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#74798

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2014-07-19 17:40 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.12033.1405755657.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#74797
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
> Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
>>> There's a lot of hot air but I have yet to encounter spam.
>>
>> That means you have good filtering.
>
> Interesting. Who's filtering comp.lang.python?

Possibly your provider, possibly your client, hard to say. But I'm
pretty confident you do NOT see all the spam that goes through,
because it's definitely there.

ChrisA

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#74800

FromMarko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Date2014-07-19 10:54 +0300
Message-ID<87bnslye9w.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net>
In reply to#74798
Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>:

> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
>> Interesting. Who's filtering comp.lang.python?
>
> Possibly your provider, possibly your client, hard to say. But I'm
> pretty confident you do NOT see all the spam that goes through,
> because it's definitely there.

Well, anyway, spam is not a reason to avoid comp.lang.python.


Marko

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#74999

FromAnssi Saari <as@sci.fi>
Date2014-07-22 18:22 +0300
Message-ID<vg3vbqpifk2.fsf@coffee.modeemi.fi>
In reply to#74792
Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> writes:

> Martin S <shieldfire@gmail.com>:
>
>> Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise
>> overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542.
>
> Well, here you are at <URL: news:comp.lang.python>, in the middle of all
> that noise.

Besides, there's been a slight resurgence in comp.misc at least,
apparently some people got angry about something at slashdot and wanted
a more free forum, hence a bunch of posts there and some other groups
recently.

Other than that, I think most of the angry people and spammers have left
Usenet alone. All the better for those of us who stick with it but I
have to say the average age of people posting to comp.arch at least is
probably over 60... The only younger people around seem to be the kids
asking for people to do their homework.

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#75005

FromMartin S <shieldfire@gmail.com>
Date2014-07-22 18:09 +0200
Message-ID<mailman.12185.1406047552.18130.python-list@python.org>
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Aye I found a couple of groups that are still active. Most of it seems to be a digital ghost town though. A bit sad, I was once actively involved in setting up the se. * hierarchy. 

/martin s

On 22 Jul 2014, Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> wrote:
>Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> writes:
>
>> Martin S <shieldfire@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Is there a point to still use Usenet? Last time I checked noise
>>> overwhelmed signal by a factor of something close to 542.
>>
>> Well, here you are at <URL: news:comp.lang.python>, in the middle of
>all
>> that noise.
>
>Besides, there's been a slight resurgence in comp.misc at least,
>apparently some people got angry about something at slashdot and wanted
>a more free forum, hence a bunch of posts there and some other groups
>recently.
>
>Other than that, I think most of the angry people and spammers have
>left
>Usenet alone. All the better for those of us who stick with it but I
>have to say the average age of people posting to comp.arch at least is
>probably over 60... The only younger people around seem to be the kids
>asking for people to do their homework.

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