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| First post | 2015-11-06 10:33 +0800 |
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Question about math.pi is mutable "wangq@travelsky.com" <wangq@travelsky.com> - 2015-11-06 10:33 +0800
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-06 12:30 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Lorenzo Sutton <lorenzofsutton@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 17:12 +0100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-06 19:30 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 06:40 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2015-11-06 20:59 +0100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-06 23:19 +0100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-07 00:48 +0100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-11-07 13:00 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-11-07 14:43 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-07 11:23 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-11-07 22:35 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-07 11:57 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-11-07 23:15 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-07 13:00 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-11-07 15:09 +0100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-11-07 16:23 +0200
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-11-07 16:28 +0200
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-07 15:01 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-11-07 19:46 +0200
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-11-08 14:07 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2015-11-08 01:29 -0500
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-11-08 13:59 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-08 10:40 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-11-08 13:02 +0200
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-08 11:19 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-11-08 13:50 +0200
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-08 12:39 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-11-08 14:43 +0200
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-08 13:42 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-11-08 16:33 +0200
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 02:11 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-11-09 11:58 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 23:28 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-11-09 11:35 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 08:59 -0700
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-08 17:54 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 05:01 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-08 18:58 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 12:51 -0700
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-08 18:13 -0500
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-08 23:54 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-11-09 11:00 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-09 00:11 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-09 08:18 -0500
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:04 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-11-09 11:26 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2015-11-09 21:29 +1300
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:36 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-11-09 11:50 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:56 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-11-09 12:04 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-11-09 22:22 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2015-11-09 10:32 -0500
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-11-10 06:45 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-11-10 13:37 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-11-10 17:10 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-11-10 22:34 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-10 13:26 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-11-11 18:38 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-11-11 10:30 +0200
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-11-11 22:20 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-11-10 03:30 -0500
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-11-10 11:33 +0100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-11-10 23:14 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-11-11 12:10 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-11-09 21:07 +0100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-11-10 10:21 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-09 16:54 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-11-10 06:52 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-11-09 08:00 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-08 22:35 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-11-09 09:54 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-11-09 13:23 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-09 12:22 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 23:36 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-11-08 22:30 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-08 12:24 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-11-07 16:16 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-11-07 20:00 +0200
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-11-08 03:31 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-11-08 09:45 +0200
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2015-11-08 09:00 +0100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-08 00:08 -0800
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-11-08 11:49 +0200
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-11-09 14:49 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-07 15:19 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-11-08 14:50 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-11-08 11:44 +0200
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-11-08 22:11 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-11-08 13:25 +0200
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-08 11:06 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-11-09 15:49 +0100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-11-10 10:29 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-11-10 11:03 +0100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 20:11 -0700
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-11-14 16:02 +0100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-06 23:26 +0100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-11-06 20:49 -0500
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-11-07 13:06 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-07 23:02 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-11-07 23:27 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-11-08 10:32 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 10:52 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-12 21:40 +0100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-11-13 09:04 +1100
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 09:19 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-13 18:30 -0800
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-12 22:19 +0000
Re: Question about math.pi is mutable Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 09:52 +1100
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| From | Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-07 23:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n1lvpv$he1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #98377 |
On 06/11/2015 22:26, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > Bartc wrote: > ^^^^^ > Please fix. What's the problem?
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-11-07 23:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.110.1446938867.16136.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #98406 |
On 07/11/2015 23:02, Bartc wrote: > On 06/11/2015 22:26, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> Bartc wrote: >> ^^^^^ >> Please fix. > > What's the problem? > > He is the problem. I assume it's because he thinks he's a dog, cat or some other animal. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence
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| From | Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> |
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| Date | 2015-11-08 10:32 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.111.1446939170.16136.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #98406 |
Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> writes: > On 06/11/2015 22:26, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > > Bartc wrote: > > ^^^^^ > > Please fix. > > What's the problem? As far as I can tell, you're being asked to change that to your “real” name, whatever that is supposed to mean. I recommend you ignore that request; “Bartc” is fine as a name here, IMO. -- \ “Your [government] representative owes you, not his industry | `\ only, but his judgment; and he betrays, instead of serving you, | _o__) if he sacrifices it to your opinion.” —Edmund Burke, 1774 | Ben Finney
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-08 10:52 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.112.1446940364.16136.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #98406 |
On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> wrote: > I recommend you ignore that request; “Bartc” is fine as a name here, > IMO. Given that LARTC means Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control, I'm guessing Bartc is all about *BSD networking? :) ChrisA
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-11-12 21:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10882952.phYABH7ckh@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #98410 |
Chris Angelico wrote:
> […] Ben Finney […] wrote:
>> I recommend you ignore that request; “Bartc” is fine as a name here,
>> IMO.
>
> Given that LARTC means Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control, I'm
> guessing Bartc is all about *BSD networking? :)
I thought LART were the Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool ;-)
And on GABELNs [1] it is considered polite to post using your real name.
Lack of politeness towards the people whom would otherwise be willing to
help you may cause you to be ignored by them instead. You have been warned.
BTW, it’s attribution *line*, _not_ attribution novel.
[1] {Group Area Board Echo List Newsgroup}s
--
PointedEars
Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2015-11-13 09:04 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <56450d07$0$1584$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #98713 |
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:40 am, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > And on GABELNs [1] it is considered polite to post using your real name. Falsehoods programmers believe about names: http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/ > You have been warned. And you should consider the irony, and hypocrisy, of somebody who signs his posts "PointedEars" bitching about supposed "real names". How do you propose to tell the difference between "real" names and "fake" names? If BartC signed his posts "Engelbert Humperdinck", "Cher", "Thomas Lahn" or "Bartholomew Roberts" how would you decide whether it was "real" or "fake"? Petty bigotry over "real" names is no better than any other sort of bigotry. -- Steven
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| From | Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-13 09:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n249v4$f8n$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #98719 |
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:04:54 +1100, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:40 am, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > > [crap I expect] > And you should consider the irony, and hypocrisy, of somebody who signs > his posts "PointedEars" bitching about supposed "real names". TPEL has been trolling html, php and javascript newsgroups for years, recently he seems to have discovered python newsgroups. :( -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcmahon@gmail.com
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| From | Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-13 18:30 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <fvmdnSEu8uxRAdvLnZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #98734 |
On 11/13/2015 01:19 AM, Denis McMahon wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:04:54 +1100, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:40 am, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>
>>> [crap I expect]
>
>> And you should consider the irony, and hypocrisy, of somebody who signs
>> his posts "PointedEars" bitching about supposed "real names".
>
> TPEL has been trolling html, php and javascript newsgroups for years,
> recently he seems to have discovered python newsgroups. :(
>
I found that TPEL post to be particularly amusing/ironic (hilarious, really) when he continued
by talking about a group that ignores posts by people who don't use real names! :-)
I generally ignore his posts as well.
-=- Larry -=- <-- My real name, which is NOT Lawrence (or anything similar)!
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| From | BartC <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-12 22:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n2336a$vq5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #98713 |
On 12/11/2015 20:40, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > Chris Angelico wrote: > >> […] Ben Finney […] wrote: >>> I recommend you ignore that request; “Bartc” is fine as a name here, >>> IMO. >> >> Given that LARTC means Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control, I'm >> guessing Bartc is all about *BSD networking? :) > > I thought LART were the Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool ;-) > > And on GABELNs [1] it is considered polite to post using your real name. > Lack of politeness towards the people whom would otherwise be willing to > help you may cause you to be ignored by them instead. You have been warned. I'm reading this 'list' on usenet. No-one else in many thousands of posts has ever complained before about my user-name. But I guess you haven't been on that many forums. Few people use their full names or anything that looks like a real name. Partly, so they don't have someone who violently disagrees with them causing problems (like discovering their address and coming round). Mostly people use names that are wacky, funny, or just meaningless. (FWIW, my real first name is Bart and C is the initial of my last name. Very dull I know.) -- bart c
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-13 09:52 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.281.1447368739.16136.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #98720 |
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 9:19 AM, BartC <bc@freeuk.com> wrote: > (FWIW, my real first name is Bart and C is the initial of my last name. Very > dull I know.) That's a common way of signing emails. I sign most of mine "ChrisA", which (as you'll see from my headers) is constructed the same way. So did the late Dave Angel (DaveA). Although I suppose I'm going to get in trouble with PointedEars for not using my *full* name, but abbreviating it to just "Chris". ChrisA
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