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| Started by | vasudevram <vasudevram@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2014-03-21 13:42 -0700 |
| Last post | 2014-03-28 17:05 -0500 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 401 — 30 participants |
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Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) vasudevram <vasudevram@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 13:42 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 13:54 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) vasudevram <vasudevram@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 13:56 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 14:09 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 15:30 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 19:06 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 13:41 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 21:39 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 15:51 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 22:26 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-03-23 00:32 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 20:46 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 20:16 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 21:47 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-03-24 02:35 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 14:27 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-23 21:14 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 16:04 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 14:32 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 22:48 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 23:51 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-22 09:46 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 00:52 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 03:03 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-24 11:55 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:49 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-24 14:36 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 23:53 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-24 14:39 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-24 15:22 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-24 14:21 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-24 14:04 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 09:00 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 06:12 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 13:42 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 06:57 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 05:28 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 16:43 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 11:24 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 16:43 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-25 00:43 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 18:56 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 11:11 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 19:16 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 11:28 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-25 00:32 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 19:50 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-24 21:31 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 12:41 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 06:28 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-24 21:20 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 21:39 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 06:52 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 16:35 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 10:44 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 03:10 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 11:37 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 03:48 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 15:54 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 08:42 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 17:14 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 13:24 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 19:46 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 14:06 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 20:20 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 17:14 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-28 04:45 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-28 00:34 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 16:18 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 13:45 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-29 03:08 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 22:18 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 14:45 +1100
Keyboard standards (was: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list)) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-03-29 15:18 +1100
Re: Keyboard standards Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 23:26 -0500
Re: Keyboard standards Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 16:13 +1100
Re: Keyboard standards Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 00:40 -0500
Re: Keyboard standards Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 04:02 -0600
Re: Keyboard standards Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-29 16:03 +0000
Re: Keyboard standards Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-29 12:27 -0700
Re: Keyboard standards Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 13:41 -0600
Re: Keyboard standards Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-29 23:53 -0700
Re: Keyboard standards Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-03-29 17:26 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-29 03:51 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 23:07 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 23:16 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 23:21 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 15:48 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 23:40 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 16:08 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 22:21 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 00:51 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 17:03 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 03:21 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-29 15:45 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 00:52 -0500
OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 06:31 +0000
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 17:43 +1100
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 01:48 -0500
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 10:35 +0000
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 23:03 +1100
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 23:29 -0500
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 23:57 -0500
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 16:05 +1100
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 00:33 -0500
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-31 09:31 +0100
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 00:23 -0500
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 16:44 +1100
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-31 11:39 +0300
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-03-31 07:33 -0400
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-31 08:41 -0400
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-01 00:04 +1100
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-03-31 21:47 +0100
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-31 18:06 -0400
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-31 20:03 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-30 00:32 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 10:44 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-03-30 23:57 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-03-31 00:20 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-03-31 14:14 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Walter Hurry <walterhurry@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 00:39 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-30 08:08 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 15:22 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 10:03 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 01:08 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 17:47 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-03-31 17:53 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 00:36 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-03-31 01:32 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-31 08:16 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-03-31 21:46 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-01 16:26 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-02 08:49 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-01 18:18 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-04-01 18:33 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-03 11:38 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-04-03 20:14 +0300
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-03 11:40 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-03 13:55 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-04-03 22:43 +0300
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-03 22:12 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 09:43 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-03 21:09 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-04 07:52 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 19:11 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 02:13 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-04 10:08 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 11:01 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-05 00:20 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 12:07 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-03 21:29 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-04-04 09:20 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 15:58 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 15:40 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-04-04 22:50 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 17:07 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 09:39 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 17:52 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 09:57 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-04-05 00:16 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 23:10 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 15:40 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 00:11 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 23:02 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 00:37 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-04-05 17:01 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 01:48 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 18:08 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 01:48 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 23:07 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 17:52 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-04-04 23:04 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 23:18 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 14:22 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-04-05 00:10 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 17:07 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-05 00:00 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 12:51 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 23:31 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 15:49 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 00:23 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 16:55 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 00:23 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 20:42 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 00:02 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 16:24 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-04-05 16:29 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 16:57 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 23:59 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 18:10 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-05 10:19 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-04-05 07:20 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-04-05 10:28 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-04 09:53 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 03:24 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-04-04 06:43 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 22:59 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 23:59 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-04-06 12:05 +0300
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-06 16:52 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-06 10:31 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-07 03:54 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-06 11:13 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-07 04:46 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-06 19:32 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-07 20:33 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-04-08 02:52 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-08 13:02 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-08 08:21 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-04-09 10:39 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-09 12:26 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-08 03:53 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-07 03:27 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-04-06 23:23 +0300
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-04-06 19:09 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-07 04:14 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-04-06 23:10 +0300
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-04-06 21:56 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-06 23:48 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-04-06 20:45 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-06 18:54 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-07 05:10 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-04-07 08:14 +0300
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-04-08 09:03 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-04-07 07:54 +0300
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-07 12:19 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 23:01 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 23:10 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 00:51 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-29 17:53 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 01:22 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 16:22 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-29 13:39 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-29 07:53 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-29 13:59 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2014-03-29 13:48 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 00:57 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2014-03-29 13:46 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 10:01 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 18:44 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 10:57 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 06:16 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 17:58 -0600
Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 20:00 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:15 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 14:17 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:25 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:28 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-24 23:29 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 14:51 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:59 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 21:08 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 15:29 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:00 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 16:08 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 00:14 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:23 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 16:31 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 16:27 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 00:34 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:42 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 00:47 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 16:54 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 16:48 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 00:56 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-25 08:36 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 05:53 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-25 14:43 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 06:52 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 00:56 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 07:08 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 14:23 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 08:19 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-03-26 09:33 +1300
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 11:58 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-25 20:02 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 01:01 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 17:19 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 07:03 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 18:12 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-25 20:05 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-25 10:05 +0200
Re: Time we switched to unicode? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 19:23 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 08:59 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 20:03 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 18:24 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-26 01:01 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 06:40 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:28 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 00:36 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 06:07 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 01:48 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-25 10:43 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 20:54 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-25 11:38 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 11:14 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-25 12:46 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 05:09 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 15:18 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-25 19:55 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-26 00:12 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-26 00:30 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 21:56 -0700
Delayed evaluation of expressions [was Re: Time we switched to unicode?] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-26 16:05 +0000
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions [was Re: Time we switched to unicode?] Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 10:32 -0700
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions [was Re: Time we switched to unicode?] Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 10:57 -0700
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions [was Re: Time we switched to unicode?] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 09:24 +1100
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-27 00:45 +0200
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 22:02 -0700
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions [was Re: Time we switched to unicode?] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-26 23:43 +0000
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions [was Re: Time we switched to unicode?] Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 18:59 -0700
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions [was Re: Time we switched to unicode?] Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-26 20:44 -0400
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions [was Re: Time we switched to unicode?] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-27 02:16 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-25 08:35 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 00:13 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 14:13 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 01:37 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-03-26 09:58 +1300
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-25 20:10 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-03-26 09:21 +1300
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 16:31 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-25 21:22 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 15:19 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 06:04 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 17:26 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-25 08:24 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-25 19:44 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 20:43 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 14:57 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 05:47 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 23:10 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 17:33 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 23:41 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 17:50 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-25 18:39 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 17:12 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 23:35 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 17:45 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 23:52 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-03-27 01:16 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 12:26 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 20:44 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 20:56 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 15:14 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 07:03 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 00:22 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-25 11:24 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-25 08:21 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 13:36 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-25 15:01 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-25 22:10 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 13:39 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 01:32 -0600
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 01:43 -0600
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 22:12 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-25 13:07 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 23:45 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 06:07 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 00:50 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-03-26 09:37 +1300
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-25 14:07 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-25 20:24 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-26 10:22 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 06:20 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-24 09:49 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:21 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 14:47 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 01:45 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 13:17 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-25 02:06 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:48 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-24 09:58 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 13:58 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-24 19:13 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 13:12 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 06:22 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-24 22:58 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 10:07 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-24 21:04 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 06:45 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-22 04:47 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 16:05 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-22 12:24 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 03:09 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-22 12:30 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 10:16 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-22 10:40 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-22 17:57 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-22 20:40 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 11:42 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 03:17 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-03-22 10:34 +1300
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) vasudevram <vasudevram@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 13:59 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 20:56 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 16:45 -0700
How to flatten a list of lists was (Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 17:00 -0500
How to flatten a list of lists was (Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 17:00 -0500
To flatten a nested list was (Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 17:05 -0500
Re: To flatten a nested list was (Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-29 02:31 +0000
Re: To flatten a nested list was (Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 22:33 -0500
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| From | Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-04-06 18:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e5bd7e0b-e886-4b68-b442-3bd9abddcf49@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #69788 |
On Monday, April 7, 2014 6:15:47 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 4/6/2014 7:48 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 23:10:47 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > >> Steven D'Aprano : > >>> On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 12:05:16 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > >>>> Python, BTW, is perfectly suitable for computer science. > >>> I don't think it is. Python is not a pure functional language, so it's > >>> very difficult to prove anything about the code apart from running it. > >> Many classic CS ideas are expressed in terms of an Algol-like language. > >> Nothing would prevent you from framing those ideas in a Python-like > >> (pseudo)language. The question is mostly whether you prefer begin/end, > >> braces or indentation. > > Okay, I made an error in stating that it's because Python is not a pure > > functional language. It's because Python is so dynamic that it is very > > difficult to prove anything about the code apart from running it. Take > > this code-snippet of Python: > > n = len([1, 2, 3]) > > What can we say about it? Almost nothing! > One merely needs to stipulate that builtin names have not been rebound > to give the answer: n is bound to 3. In the absence of code or text > specifying otherwise, that is the reasonable default assumption and the > one that most makes when reading code. > Restricting the usage of Python's flexibility does not make it another > language. It makes it the actual language that the vast majority of > programs are written in and that people assume when reading code. Well what Steven is saying (I think!) amounts to pointing out a gap: - the actual language that the vast majority of programs are written in - python as in the Cpython (say) implementation To close this gap requires trying to do what Brett Canon tried and more generally PyPy tries. Some small rarely used features which humans can invoke with with a wave-fo-hands when reasoning about programs, end up being a show-stopper in an implementation. Every language has such: Fortran remains better for scientific computing than C (leave aside C++) because among other things alias analysis for Fortran arrays is more straightforward.
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2014-04-07 05:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5342333e$0$11109$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #69788 |
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 20:45:47 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 4/6/2014 7:48 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 23:10:47 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>
>>> Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 12:05:16 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>>>> Python, BTW, is perfectly suitable for computer science.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think it is. Python is not a pure functional language, so
>>>> it's very difficult to prove anything about the code apart from
>>>> running it.
>>>
>>> Many classic CS ideas are expressed in terms of an Algol-like
>>> language. Nothing would prevent you from framing those ideas in a
>>> Python-like (pseudo)language. The question is mostly whether you
>>> prefer begin/end, braces or indentation.
>>
>> Okay, I made an error in stating that it's because Python is not a pure
>> functional language. It's because Python is so dynamic that it is very
>> difficult to prove anything about the code apart from running it. Take
>> this code-snippet of Python:
>>
>> n = len([1, 2, 3])
>>
>> What can we say about it? Almost nothing!
>
> One merely needs to stipulate that builtin names have not been rebound
> to give the answer: n is bound to 3.
But if I can do that, I can also stipulate that len() has been rebound to
a function that ignores its argument and always returns the string
"Surprise!". In that case, n is bound to the string "Surprise!". I can
prove that this code snippet does almost *anything*, just be making some
assumption about len.
The point is that one cannot derive much about the behaviour of Python
code except by analysing the whole program, which is a very difficult
problem, and often not even then. The only way to be sure what value is
bound to len at the time that code snippet is executed is to actually run
the code up to that code snippet and then look. In practical terms,
things are not quite as bleak as I've made out: a little bit of runtime
analysis goes a long way, as the success of PyPy, Numba, Cython and Psyco
prove. That's why optimizers like PyPy generally produce code like this:
if some guard condition is true:
run fast optimized branch
else:
fall back on standard Python
where the guard condition is generally checked at runtime, not at compile
time.
But *in isolation*, you can't tell what len will be bound to unless you
wait until runtime and look. A peephole optimizer that replaced a call
like len([1,2,3]) with the constant 3 every time it sees it would be
*wrong*.
> In the absence of code or text
> specifying otherwise, that is the reasonable default assumption and the
> one that most makes when reading code.
Well of course, but the requirements of an optimizer or correctness
prover or similar is much higher than just "this is a reasonable default
assumption".
> Restricting the usage of Python's flexibility does not make it another
> language. It makes it the actual language that the vast majority of
> programs are written in and that people assume when reading code.
That's incorrect. If len were a keyword, and couldn't be shadowed or
replaced, it would be another language. It is not an accident that you
can replace len in builtins, it is a deliberate feature of the language.
--
Steven
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| From | Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> |
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| Date | 2014-04-07 08:14 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <878urh4t6b.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> |
| In reply to | #69798 |
Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info>: > That's why optimizers like PyPy generally produce code like this: > > if some guard condition is true: > run fast optimized branch > else: > fall back on standard Python There you go! You are using Python-esque syntax to communicate a CS idea. Marko
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| From | Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> |
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| Date | 2014-04-08 09:03 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.8993.1396940622.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #69798 |
On 07-04-14 07:10, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> Restricting the usage of Python's flexibility does not make it another >> language. It makes it the actual language that the vast majority of >> programs are written in and that people assume when reading code. > That's incorrect. If len were a keyword, and couldn't be shadowed or > replaced, it would be another language. That is true but in a useless meaning. With such a strict meaning of when a language is different, people programming python have been continuously changing programming language. However the changes seem to be gradual enough for people to continue speaking of python. So if we see python as a family of languages where some difference may produce variations while still speaking of the same language, I don't see why a change like you propose would fall into a category that would imply we are now speaking of an other language. -- Antoon Pardon
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| From | Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> |
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| Date | 2014-04-07 07:54 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <87ha654u4c.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> |
| In reply to | #69787 |
Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>: > On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 23:10:47 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >> It is academic because the author, Raymond Smullyan, was a professor >> of philosophy and, more importantly, my professor selected that as a >> textbook for us graduate students. > > Ah. Well they do that, don't they? I've always consider the ability of > professors to select their own book as text to be a classic case of > conflict of interest. They're supposed to pick the best book, not > necessarily the one that earns them money. Note that "my professor" above was not Raymond Smullyan. Marko
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-04-07 12:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <534297eb$0$29993$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #69797 |
On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 07:54:27 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>: > >> On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 23:10:47 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >>> It is academic because the author, Raymond Smullyan, was a professor >>> of philosophy and, more importantly, my professor selected that as a >>> textbook for us graduate students. >> >> Ah. Well they do that, don't they? I've always consider the ability of >> professors to select their own book as text to be a classic case of >> conflict of interest. They're supposed to pick the best book, not >> necessarily the one that earns them money. > > Note that "my professor" above was not Raymond Smullyan. Ah! Sorry about that, I misread your post as implying he was your professor. -- Steven D'Aprano http://import-that.dreamwidth.org/
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| From | Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-04-05 23:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lhqji2$ac1$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #69661 |
On 4/4/14 4:53 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Python is not a computer-science-ey language.
Really ?
> It is of little or no
> interest to computer scientists involved in the mathematics of
> computation,
... you mean no one except me, then ?
> or compiler-theory, or type-theory, or any of the other
> academic disciplines under comp-sci.
So, I understand as you say, that there are no academics using C
python interpreter within the rubric of their particular comp sci
discipline? none? anyplace?
I am surprised. They might be surprised as well.
You probably think the same is true of common lisp? then?
Under the covers there are some striking similarities between the
way lisp does things, and the way python does things. You know this, right?
The python interpreter is actually an excellent computer science
language (not only for education) because of its structure, data types,
flexibility, and extensibility. It is an excellent research language.
There seems to be a considerable difference of opinion as to 'what'
comprises computer science; very interesting. Not only is C python
interpreter an excellent research language, but the study of the Python
language itself is of major interest for anyone who studies languages in
general; ie., Lambda the Ultimate λ
marcus
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| From | Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-28 23:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c5509019-15d1-4578-b62b-e4324e8cefa5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #69319 |
On Saturday, March 29, 2014 11:21:17 AM UTC+5:30, Mark H. Harris wrote: > On 3/29/14 12:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > > Okay. History lesson time. > Tell me what is the lingua franka today? > Is it, E n g l i s h ? I wonder Mark, if because you are communicating with your mailing software in ＥＮＧＬＩＳＨ and its expecting unicode (or Kanji)... you are posting once and we are seeing it twice, thrice...
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| From | Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-29 00:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.8687.1396072281.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #69313 |
On 3/29/14 12:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> Okay. History lesson time.
>
Tell me what is the lingua franka today?
Is it, E n g l i s h ?
For many many many years people all over the earth were using
English and ASCII to communicate with early computers... they still are.
Almost every post on every site is English, and nearly every post on
every site is a Latin character derivative.
Kanji and Cyrillic , and Arabic are obvious exceptions to that
today, mostly because of unicode; NOT extend ASCII.
> Back before I was born, people were using computers to write messages
> that weren't in English.
No, they weren't... not most... some.
> And they managed it, somehow. Can't imagine
> how, if all computers work exclusively with seven-bit Latin-derived
> character sets.
Unicode. Shoot, most of the world didn't even have computers until
just a few years ago; none of the third world did, back in the day, and
the ones who did communicated in ASCII and English (or some broken
variant of it).
> "Most non-third-world countries use Latin-derived character sets".
See this quote from the consortium FAQ:
> So, for example, there is only one set of Latin characters
> defined, despite the fact that the Latin script
> is used for the alphabets of thousands of different languages.
http://www.unicode.org/faq/basic_q.html#3
marcus
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-29 17:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <53370898$0$29994$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #69310 |
On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 23:40:01 -0500, Mark H Harris wrote: > On 3/28/14 10:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> You are being patronising to the 94% of the world that is not from the >> USA. Do you honestly think that people all over the world have been >> using computers for 30 or 40 years without any way to enter their >> native language? > > uh, pretty much. Then be educated. That is not the case. People have had localised code pages, and localised keyboards to enter characters in those code pages, for up to 30 years, if not longer. In some of those cases, the localisation was done by companies like IBM, Microsoft and Apple, realising that if they wanted to sell computers outside of the US, they needed to supply computers that were localised to their market. In other cases, it was the national governments of the nations which set up their own standards, then insisted that computer vendors supported them. This code page system actually worked pretty well, so long as you only exchange documents with people using the same code page. Until the Internet, that was mostly the case. > That's why they called it ASCII American Standard > Code for Information Interchange... Yes. So what? Just because ASCII exists doesn't mean everyone uses it *exclusively*. With the demise of EBCDIC as the standard character encoding (actually plural encodings, because EBCDIC has code pages too), ASCII has become the lowest common denominator for most (but not all) character sets. Pre- Unicode, most (but definitely not all!) code pages were based on ASCII, either with a few changes, or extending it to a full 8 bits. But that's the point: most people with access to computing in the first place, also had access to input methods and code pages for their native language. Your idea that they were forced to use ASCII exclusively, with no way of entering their own language, is simply wrong. -- Steven D'Aprano http://import-that.dreamwidth.org/
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| From | Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-30 01:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lh8d7u$qcr$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #69334 |
On 3/29/14 12:53 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> People have had localised code pages, and localised keyboards to enter
> characters in those code pages, for up to 30 years, if not longer.
Nobody is arguing otherwise, Steven. Having a code page for a local
language is not the same thing as having software that supports your
local language code page! Software and code pages improved over time,
but international communication (which is what I'm talking about) has
always been done in English, using ASCII. Well except when Guido brought
the ABC stuff to the states back in the day and had no way to do that
except to fly himself (and the tape) personally.
>
> In some of those cases, the localisation was done by companies like IBM,
> Microsoft and Apple, realising that if they wanted to sell computers
> outside of the US, they needed to supply computers that were localised to
> their market.
Unfortunately that happened way late. And even then, international
communication was still done (and is still done) in English. Only until
very recently (see my post to Chris) has unicode improved to the point
where international comm can occur reliably enough (input, font, code
points) to allow comm in languages other than English. And yet, although
Kanji has been around for a while, most international comm is still
handled in English because its the lingua franca.
> This code page system actually worked pretty well, so long as you only
> exchange documents with people using the same code page. Until the
> Internet, that was mostly the case.
My point exactly. With the advent of the Internet, almost *all* comm
is English with minor notable exceptions in today's environment. Just
look around, you need not argue with me. You can find places for local
comm, but they are sparse.
>
>> That's why they called it ASCII American Standard
>> Code for Information Interchange...
>
> Yes. So what? Just because ASCII exists doesn't mean everyone uses it
> *exclusively*.
Yeah, well, that's exactly what happened; its still happening. Only
today its UTF-8, a Latin script (there is only one) and thousands of
people all over the earth on the Internet speaking English around the
globe. Yeah, I know, there are localized pockets and people using their
computer in their heart language, but for international communication
you're going to find (primarily) people communicating in English.
> With the demise of EBCDIC as the standard character encoding (actually
> plural encodings, because EBCDIC has code pages too),
Ha! That's funny. EBCIDIC is | was standard only at IBM. Those
stubborn people (I used to be one of them) stuck with EBCIDIC and
SNA/SDLC until they realized that they could not communicate with the
rest of the world using ASCII and TCP/IP. ... just hilarious!
> ASCII has become
> the lowest common denominator for most (but not all) character sets. Pre-
> Unicode, most (but definitely not all!) code pages were based on ASCII,
> either with a few changes, or extending it to a full 8 bits.
Yup.
> But that's the point:
Yes it is.
> most people with access to computing in the first
> place, also had access to input methods and code pages for their native
> language. Your idea that they were forced to use ASCII exclusively, with
> no way of entering their own language, is simply wrong.
I'm not arguing that, Steven. You're just being silly. I'm talking
about be forced to communicate around the world when most of the people
communicating are speaking English and using ASCII.
Look, I can unplug my computer from the Internet and use it to
translate biblical Greek and O.T. Hebrew and be happy as a clam that I'm
locally doing my own thing in my own language (so what)? The moment I
want to communicate outside my local space I better know English, and I
better have a code page that supports it.
If you live in Israel, and only communicate with people in Israel,
you can use your modern Hebrew font and code page and be happy as a
clam; but if you want to communicate with somebody in IOWA, perhaps Iowa
State for some reason, you better know English. Just say'n.
On the other hand, just look around the Internet. 98% of all
communication is English using UTF-8 today. Yes, you can find pockets
where this is not true, but primarily, the world is using a modern
lingua franca.
I am very interested with the intense interest in this topic.
marcus
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2014-03-30 16:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <533844d5$0$29994$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #69374 |
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 01:22:55 -0500, Mark H Harris wrote: > On 3/29/14 12:53 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> People have had localised code pages, and localised keyboards to enter >> characters in those code pages, for up to 30 years, if not longer. > > Nobody is arguing otherwise, Steven. It certainly seemed like you were. > Having a code page for a local > language is not the same thing as having software that supports your > local language code page! Of course they're not the same, but localised software does exist. You're making the mistake of thinking that because you only see English-language software, no other software exists. But you are an English-speaker in an English-speaking country, of course nearly all the software you see is written for English speakers. But if you were in Spain, the software you buy would be in Spanish: http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/123741-changing-language- localization.html More about localisation: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2012/07/26/10333558.aspx http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4239?viewlocale=fr_FR&locale=fr_FR Software and code pages improved over time, > but international communication (which is what I'm talking about) has > always been done in English, using ASCII. That's simply not correct. Even if we limit "always" to mean "since World War Two", it's still wrong. IBM was localising their computers for non- English markets before ASCII even existed, "code pages" was an IBM technology invented for EBCDIC-using mainframes before there were ASCII- using PCs. What is true is that English is the primary lingua franca on the Internet. But it's not the only one, and there are plenty of places on the Internet where people discuss things in their own language. > Well except when Guido brought > the ABC stuff to the states back in the day and had no way to do that > except to fly himself (and the tape) personally. >> >> In some of those cases, the localisation was done by companies like >> IBM, Microsoft and Apple, realising that if they wanted to sell >> computers outside of the US, they needed to supply computers that were >> localised to their market. > > Unfortunately that happened way late. And even then, international > communication was still done (and is still done) in English. And French. And Spanish. And Chinese. If you trade with most of Africa, knowing Arabic or French will probably be more useful than knowing English. > Only until > very recently (see my post to Chris) has unicode improved to the point > where international comm can occur reliably enough (input, font, code > points) to allow comm in languages other than English. Unicode has little to do with the ability to communicate in languages other than English. If you want to communicate in Greek, you don't need Unicode, you just need both parties to agree to use ISO-8859-7. If you want to communicate in Japanese, you could use Shift-JIS, or various others. Where Unicode comes into it is when you want to manage *mixed* communication. There's no way for me to include your ISO-8859-7 Greek text in my Shift-JIS Japanese document. I can use one, or the other, but not both. But with Unicode, I can use them both. [...] > My point exactly. With the advent of the Internet, almost *all* comm > is English with minor notable exceptions in today's environment. Not even close to "almost all". Barely half of the Internet is English. If you only look in the English-speaking corners of the Internet, it is hardly surprising that you only see people speaking English. Even at the high-point, English was only 80% of the Internet, 20% (that's *one in five* websites) was non-English: http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/2000/11/wallraff3.htm That was a decade ago, and as predicted, the percentage of the Internet which uses English has plummeted as more non-English speakers have got on the 'net. Today, only 56% of the Internet is English: http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/content_language/all That figure is based on the one million most popular websites. If you include *all* websites, you'll find the English percentage is even lower, and quite likely under 50%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_used_on_the_Internet Some other points to consider: 44% of WordPress sites are non-English: http://venturebeat.com/2013/07/27/19-percent-of-the-web-runs-on-wordpress/ which is representative of the broader Internet. And since 2001, while the use of English on the Internet grew by 281%, other languages have grown much faster: - Spanish (743%) - Chinese (1,277%) - Russian (1,826%) - Arabic (2,501%) -- Steven D'Aprano http://import-that.dreamwidth.org/
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| From | Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-29 13:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <87txahi68z.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> |
| In reply to | #69304 |
Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>: > Under what circumstances do you see yourself needing a keyboard capable > of typing Hindi? > > I don't wish to pay for a keyboard for entering Arabic Everybody should be able to have a keyboard for their needs. If I should need an APL keyboard, I would have it in a jiffy. At the moment, I have a keyboard that is optimized for Python, Finnish, English, Hebrew and Esperanto. I use it at home and at the office. The magic is called .Xmodmap. (But no, I wouldn't name my variables in Hebrew because the next maintainer might not have a keyboard like mine.) Marko
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| From | Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-29 07:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <roy-94490C.07534229032014@news.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #69326 |
In article <87txahi68z.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net>, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote: > (But no, I wouldn't name my variables in Hebrew because the next > maintainer might not have a keyboard like mine.) Have you ever done any work in PHP? Many of the error messages are Hebrew, transliterated into English. I've gotten many a T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM error.
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| From | Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> |
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| Date | 2014-03-29 13:59 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <87lhvti5as.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> |
| In reply to | #69327 |
Roy Smith <roy@panix.com>: > Have you ever done any work in PHP? Many of the error messages are > Hebrew, transliterated into English. I've gotten many a > T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM error. I hate localization. You get a error message in Finnish from "make" or "grep" and then you try to google it. So mine is en_US, but I know people who do fi_FI. Marko
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| From | Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-29 13:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.8693.1396115319.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #69328 |
On Saturday 29 March 2014 13:47:13 Marko Rauhamaa did opine: > Roy Smith <roy@panix.com>: > > Have you ever done any work in PHP? Many of the error messages are > > Hebrew, transliterated into English. I've gotten many a > > T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM error. > > I hate localization. You get a error message in Finnish from "make" or > "grep" and then you try to google it. > > So mine is en_US, but I know people who do fi_FI. > > > Marko I don't hate it at all. If, by reporting the error in the persons 1st language, he learns faster, that is a huge plus to me. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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| From | Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-30 00:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lh8bol$npe$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #69328 |
On 3/29/14 6:59 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > I hate localization. You get a error message in Finnish from "make" or > "grep" and then you try to google it. > > So mine is en_US, but I know people who do fi_FI. ... this is my point precisely.
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| From | Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-29 13:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.8694.1396115580.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #69327 |
On Saturday 29 March 2014 13:12:06 Roy Smith did opine: > In article <87txahi68z.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net>, > > Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote: > > (But no, I wouldn't name my variables in Hebrew because the next > > maintainer might not have a keyboard like mine.) > > Have you ever done any work in PHP? Many of the error messages are > Hebrew, transliterated into English. I've gotten many a > T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM error. Ok, I'll bite, does that have an American English translation? We did the majority of our web page at WDTV in the earlier years from a server we wrote in ARexx running PHP scripts on a souped up Amiga, (we farmed it out about the time we made the digital switch because Jim no longer had the time to do it full time, and of course the farmed out version sucks) but while that wasn't my forte, I don't recall Jim ever mentioning PHP error messages as being in Hebrew. I recall from a mailing list discussion about why English was the dominant language, probably a decade or more back up the log so it is not in my email corpus now, and a Turkish professor of one of the other latin languages nailed it at the time. In terms of the language moving to keep up with the state of the art, English moves, rapidly and smoothly and our dictionaries are updated to add the new words at many times the pace of the older languages. Some progress is being made of course, we now have what, 18 language linux can speak, I'd assume with a certain amount of kicking and screaming, but it seems to me that it is still pretty true. Engrish, as exported from Japan in their tech manuals doesn't count, we can usually figure out what the Sony engineers were trying to say. Not that it will be appreciated by those younger English speakers here, who, because their schools failed them, never got any phonetic tutoring. I did, and as I approach my 80th birthday, I truly feel like the last of a dying breed because they dropped that from the elementary school curriculum a year later. That loss, to the language as a whole, is very telling in what one hears being spoken on the streets of small town America today, much of which would have earned me an F back in the 1940's. Today, saying that the language has been butchered, gives the skilled butcher a bad reputation. But we muddle along, somehow managing to survive all those legal warnings on a bottle of aspirin. :) Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-25 10:01 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.8468.1395702091.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #68907 |
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> wrote: >> adders[n] = (lambda b: lambda a: b + a)(n) > > Now, here is where I talk about confusion; explaining why the first > lambda above does not work because of scope and closure, and then even > worse, explaining why the second "double" lambda works in the lower example! Easy fix. Use the "explicit capture" notation: adders[n] = lambda a, n=n: a+n And there you are, out of your difficulty at once! ChrisA
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| From | Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-24 18:44 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lgqg16$a2v$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #68910 |
On 3/24/14 6:01 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Easy fix. Use the "explicit capture" notation:
> adders[n] = lambda a, n=n: a+n
> And there you are, out of your difficulty at once!
Yes, yes, yes, and example:
>>>> adders= list(range(4))
>>>> for n in adders:
> adders[n] = lambda a, n=n: a+n
>
>
>>>> adders[1](3)
>4
>>>> adders[2](3)
>5
But, and this is the big (WHY?) is that necessary? In other words,
its not about experts knowing how to make this work, its about "normal"
people not understanding in the first place why its a problem, and why
the various solutions work to fix it; even though "we" all know that
nothing is 'broken'.
And in reference to Marko's post, he's right, its not just python,
but the issue is not where else is capture and scope a problem for
confusion, the issue is whether python's lambda provides a significant
opportunity for confusion that in the larger scheme of things (no pun
intended) is not warranted.
marcus
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