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| Started by | vasudevram <vasudevram@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2014-03-21 13:42 -0700 |
| Last post | 2014-03-28 17:05 -0500 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 401 — 30 participants |
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Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) vasudevram <vasudevram@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 13:42 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 13:54 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) vasudevram <vasudevram@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 13:56 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 14:09 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 15:30 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 19:06 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 13:41 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 21:39 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 15:51 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 22:26 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-03-23 00:32 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 20:46 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 20:16 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 21:47 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-03-24 02:35 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 14:27 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-23 21:14 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 16:04 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 14:32 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 22:48 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 23:51 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-22 09:46 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 00:52 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 03:03 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-24 11:55 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:49 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-24 14:36 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 23:53 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-24 14:39 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-24 15:22 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-24 14:21 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-24 14:04 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 09:00 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 06:12 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 13:42 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 06:57 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 05:28 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 16:43 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 11:24 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 16:43 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-25 00:43 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 18:56 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 11:11 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 19:16 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 11:28 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-25 00:32 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 19:50 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-24 21:31 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 12:41 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 06:28 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-24 21:20 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 21:39 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 06:52 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 16:35 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 10:44 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 03:10 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 11:37 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 03:48 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 15:54 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 08:42 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 17:14 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 13:24 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 19:46 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 14:06 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 20:20 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 17:14 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-28 04:45 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-28 00:34 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 16:18 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 13:45 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-29 03:08 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 22:18 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 14:45 +1100
Keyboard standards (was: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list)) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-03-29 15:18 +1100
Re: Keyboard standards Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 23:26 -0500
Re: Keyboard standards Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 16:13 +1100
Re: Keyboard standards Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 00:40 -0500
Re: Keyboard standards Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 04:02 -0600
Re: Keyboard standards Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-29 16:03 +0000
Re: Keyboard standards Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-29 12:27 -0700
Re: Keyboard standards Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 13:41 -0600
Re: Keyboard standards Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-29 23:53 -0700
Re: Keyboard standards Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-03-29 17:26 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-29 03:51 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 23:07 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 23:16 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 23:21 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 15:48 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 23:40 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 16:08 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 22:21 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 00:51 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 17:03 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 03:21 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-29 15:45 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 00:52 -0500
OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 06:31 +0000
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 17:43 +1100
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 01:48 -0500
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 10:35 +0000
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 23:03 +1100
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 23:29 -0500
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 23:57 -0500
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 16:05 +1100
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 00:33 -0500
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-31 09:31 +0100
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 00:23 -0500
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 16:44 +1100
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-31 11:39 +0300
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-03-31 07:33 -0400
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-31 08:41 -0400
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-01 00:04 +1100
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-03-31 21:47 +0100
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-31 18:06 -0400
Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-31 20:03 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-30 00:32 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 10:44 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-03-30 23:57 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-03-31 00:20 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-03-31 14:14 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Walter Hurry <walterhurry@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 00:39 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-30 08:08 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 15:22 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 10:03 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 01:08 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 17:47 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-03-31 17:53 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 00:36 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-03-31 01:32 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-31 08:16 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-03-31 21:46 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-01 16:26 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-02 08:49 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-01 18:18 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-04-01 18:33 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-03 11:38 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-04-03 20:14 +0300
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-03 11:40 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-03 13:55 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-04-03 22:43 +0300
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-03 22:12 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 09:43 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-03 21:09 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-04 07:52 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 19:11 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 02:13 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-04 10:08 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 11:01 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-05 00:20 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 12:07 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-03 21:29 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-04-04 09:20 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 15:58 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 15:40 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-04-04 22:50 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 17:07 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 09:39 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 17:52 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 09:57 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-04-05 00:16 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 23:10 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 15:40 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 00:11 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 23:02 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 00:37 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-04-05 17:01 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 01:48 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 18:08 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 01:48 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 23:07 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 17:52 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-04-04 23:04 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 23:18 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 14:22 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-04-05 00:10 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 17:07 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-05 00:00 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 12:51 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 23:31 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 15:49 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 00:23 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 16:55 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 00:23 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 20:42 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 00:02 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 16:24 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-04-05 16:29 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 16:57 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 23:59 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 18:10 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-05 10:19 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-04-05 07:20 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-04-05 10:28 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-04 09:53 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-04 03:24 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-04-04 06:43 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 22:59 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 23:59 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-04-06 12:05 +0300
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-06 16:52 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-06 10:31 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-07 03:54 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-06 11:13 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-07 04:46 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-06 19:32 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-07 20:33 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-04-08 02:52 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-08 13:02 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-08 08:21 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-04-09 10:39 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-09 12:26 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-08 03:53 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-07 03:27 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-04-06 23:23 +0300
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-04-06 19:09 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-04-07 04:14 +1000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-04-06 23:10 +0300
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-04-06 21:56 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-06 23:48 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-04-06 20:45 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-04-06 18:54 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-07 05:10 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-04-07 08:14 +0300
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-04-08 09:03 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-04-07 07:54 +0300
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-04-07 12:19 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-04-05 23:01 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 23:10 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 00:51 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-29 17:53 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 01:22 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-30 16:22 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-29 13:39 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-29 07:53 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-29 13:59 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2014-03-29 13:48 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-30 00:57 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2014-03-29 13:46 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 10:01 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 18:44 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 10:57 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 06:16 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 17:58 -0600
Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 20:00 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:15 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 14:17 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:25 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:28 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-24 23:29 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 14:51 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:59 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 21:08 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 15:29 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:00 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 16:08 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 00:14 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:23 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 16:31 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 16:27 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 00:34 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:42 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 00:47 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 16:54 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 16:48 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 00:56 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-25 08:36 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 05:53 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-25 14:43 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 06:52 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 00:56 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 07:08 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 14:23 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 08:19 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-03-26 09:33 +1300
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 11:58 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-25 20:02 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 01:01 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 17:19 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 07:03 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 18:12 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-25 20:05 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-25 10:05 +0200
Re: Time we switched to unicode? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 19:23 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 08:59 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 20:03 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 18:24 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-26 01:01 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 06:40 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:28 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 00:36 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 06:07 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 01:48 -0500
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-25 10:43 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 20:54 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-25 11:38 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 11:14 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-25 12:46 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 05:09 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 15:18 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-25 19:55 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-26 00:12 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-26 00:30 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 21:56 -0700
Delayed evaluation of expressions [was Re: Time we switched to unicode?] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-26 16:05 +0000
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions [was Re: Time we switched to unicode?] Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 10:32 -0700
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions [was Re: Time we switched to unicode?] Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 10:57 -0700
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions [was Re: Time we switched to unicode?] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 09:24 +1100
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-27 00:45 +0200
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 22:02 -0700
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions [was Re: Time we switched to unicode?] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-26 23:43 +0000
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions [was Re: Time we switched to unicode?] Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 18:59 -0700
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions [was Re: Time we switched to unicode?] Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-26 20:44 -0400
Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions [was Re: Time we switched to unicode?] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-27 02:16 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-25 08:35 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 00:13 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 14:13 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 01:37 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-03-26 09:58 +1300
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-25 20:10 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-03-26 09:21 +1300
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 16:31 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-25 21:22 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 15:19 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 06:04 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 17:26 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-25 08:24 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-25 19:44 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 20:43 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 14:57 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 05:47 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 23:10 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 17:33 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 23:41 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 17:50 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-25 18:39 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 17:12 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 23:35 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 17:45 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 23:52 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-03-27 01:16 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 12:26 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 20:44 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 20:56 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 15:14 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 07:03 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 00:22 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-25 11:24 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-25 08:21 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 13:36 +0000
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-25 15:01 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-25 22:10 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 13:39 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 01:32 -0600
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 01:43 -0600
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 22:12 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-25 13:07 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 23:45 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 06:07 -0700
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 00:50 +1100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-03-26 09:37 +1300
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-25 14:07 +0100
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-25 20:24 -0400
Re: Time we switched to unicode? (was Explanation of this Python language feature?) Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2014-03-26 10:22 +0100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 06:20 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-24 09:49 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:21 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 14:47 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-25 01:45 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 13:17 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-25 02:06 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 22:48 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-24 09:58 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 13:58 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-24 19:13 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 13:12 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 06:22 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-24 22:58 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 10:07 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-03-24 21:04 -0400
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 06:45 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-22 04:47 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 16:05 +1100
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-22 12:24 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 03:09 -0600
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-22 12:30 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 10:16 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-22 10:40 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-22 17:57 +0000
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-22 20:40 +0200
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 11:42 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 03:17 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-03-22 10:34 +1300
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) vasudevram <vasudevram@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 13:59 -0700
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 20:56 -0500
Re: Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] (to flatten a nested list) Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 16:45 -0700
How to flatten a list of lists was (Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 17:00 -0500
How to flatten a list of lists was (Explanation of this Python language feature?) Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 17:00 -0500
To flatten a nested list was (Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 17:05 -0500
Re: To flatten a nested list was (Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-29 02:31 +0000
Re: To flatten a nested list was (Explanation of this Python language feature? [x for x in x for x in x] Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 22:33 -0500
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| From | Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-29 13:41 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Keyboard standards |
| Message-ID | <mailman.8697.1396122111.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #69341 |
On 03/29/2014 01:27 PM, Larry Hudson wrote: > On 03/28/2014 09:26 PM, Mark H Harris wrote: >> >> PS Thunderbird puts *both* the list and the news group addys in the to: header field on >> reply-to-list. ~nice, huh. > > Must be the way YOU set it up. MY Thunderbird (currently version 24.4.0 on Mint Linux 16) > doesn't do any such thing. Besides, "Reply" sends private e-mail to the poster -- "Followup" > sends to the newsgroup. No, Mark describes the standard way Thunderbird works. Reply-to-List does what he says it does. Not sure why your installation works differently. I guess maybe you are talking about something different. The mailing list vs the NNTP list.
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| From | Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-29 23:53 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Keyboard standards |
| Message-ID | <jbWdnfUg1bDmIqrOnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #69342 |
On 03/29/2014 12:41 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 03/29/2014 01:27 PM, Larry Hudson wrote:
>> On 03/28/2014 09:26 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
>>>
>>> PS Thunderbird puts *both* the list and the news group addys in the to: header field on
>>> reply-to-list. ~nice, huh.
>>
>> Must be the way YOU set it up. MY Thunderbird (currently version 24.4.0 on Mint Linux 16)
>> doesn't do any such thing. Besides, "Reply" sends private e-mail to the poster -- "Followup"
>> sends to the newsgroup.
>
> No, Mark describes the standard way Thunderbird works. Reply-to-List
> does what he says it does. Not sure why your installation works
> differently. I guess maybe you are talking about something different.
> The mailing list vs the NNTP list.
>
You're right -- I use the NNTP list only. I've never looked at the Python mailing list. The
very few mailing lists I subscribe to, I only read--never reply to. Come to think of it,
currently there's only one, and I rarely do more than skim it briefly--and frequently not even
that. I should drop it altogether, just haven't bothered to do so.
-=- Larry -=-
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| From | Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> |
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| Date | 2014-03-29 17:26 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Keyboard standards |
| Message-ID | <mailman.8698.1396128121.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #69341 |
Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> Wrote in message: > On 03/28/2014 09:26 PM, Mark H Harris wrote: >> >> PS Thunderbird puts *both* the list and the news group addys in the to: header field on >> reply-to-list. ~nice, huh. > > Must be the way YOU set it up. MY Thunderbird (currently version 24.4.0 on Mint Linux 16) > doesn't do any such thing. Besides, "Reply" sends private e-mail to the poster -- "Followup" > sends to the newsgroup. > > -=- Larry -=- > > That depends on whether you're using Thunderbird as a newsreader, or Thunderbird with the mailing list. Mark Harris is apparently doing the latter. -- DaveA
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-29 03:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <53364327$0$29994$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #69284 |
On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 16:18:25 -0500, Mark H Harris wrote: > We need a standard input system not controlled by Microsoft where-by > everyone in the entire world can enter unicode (with customization) > easily and inexpensively. A unicode keyboard would be nice. Under what circumstances do you see yourself needing a keyboard capable of typing Hindi? I don't wish to pay for a keyboard for entering Arabic when I'm never going to enter more than two or three Arabic characters at a time. If I need to enter an Arabic character, I can use one of many existing virtual keyboards. If I decide to learn Arabic, I will use my current keyboard (perhaps with new keycaps) and switch to a different keyboard layout. I don't think that an English-speaker who needs to occasionally enter a few characters like © ¢ or £, a mathematician who knows TeX, a Russian wanting to type in Cyrillic, and a Japanese writer who needs to swap between four different writing systems (Kanji, Hiragana, Katakana, and Rōmaji) are all going to be well-suited by any one system. I expect that it will end up being one-size-fits-none. > Why must > everyone in the world be stuck with a U.S. Royal typewriter keyboard for > two or three hundred years? You are being patronising to the 94% of the world that is not from the USA. Do you honestly think that people all over the world have been using computers for 30 or 40 years without any way to enter their native language? Before trying to speak for everyone in the world, it would be a good idea to learn something about their situation first. People are not stuck with the US Royal typewriter keyboard. Keyboards are localised all over the world. I'm not just talking about European keyboards mostly similar to US keyboards but with a few customizations. I'm talking about keyboards for entering Chinese and Japanese: http://www.keysourcechina.com/chinese-keyboard.html http://www.stanford.edu/class/cs140/projects/pintos/specs/kbd/jp106.jpg although I'm pretty sure this is a joke: http://propelsteps.boards.net/thread/27/creative-chinese-keyboard-2000-symbols When you install Linux, one of the first things the installer asks you to do is choose a keyboard layout. The choices are *not* just: US Qwerty US Dvorak but one of a large variety of keyboard layouts. On my system, there are a least 95: [root@ando ~]# ls /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols | wc -l 95 Likely many more, as most of the files contain more than one layout; e.g. the ru file contains 5, the fr file contains 7. On Mac and Windows, locally-bought systems will come pre-configured for the local national language. You can even buy keycaps for some pretty niche use-cases: http://www.maxkeyboard.com/r4-1x1-cherry-mx-chinese-astrology-animal-sign-keycap-set.html although I expect that's more for novelty reasons than anything else. Most languages work quite well with the standard keyboard layout of four rows of keys, plus modifiers and special keys. Japanese and Chinese are probably the two hardest cases (apart from languages that don't even have a writing system!), and even they have solutions to the problem of computer input. (In Japan, many people don't even use Unicode, at least not yet, so your hypothetical solution wouldn't help them one bit.) Virtually all keyboards today have standardized on a similar layout, one with at least three modifier keys (and more commonly four). People with specialized needs can configure their keyboard the way it suits them. There's no need for some dictator or committee to declare that everyone will use this system or that. Historians who need to enter Phoenician characters can do so, the rest of us don't need to worry about them. Relevant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard > Dvorak had the right idea; but it didn't > stick (although I have a Dvorak key mapping I use (with emacs) just for > fun). Dvorak is an American English system. There are modified versions to suit other languages with additional characters, but it is essentially *identical* to Qwerty except for the order that the keys appear. Shuffling the order that Latin letters ABC...Z appear on the keyboard is not in any way "the right idea" for entering non-Latin languages, nor does a Dvorak language help enter arbitrary Unicode characters. -- Steven D'Aprano http://import-that.dreamwidth.org/
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| From | Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-28 23:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lh5gua$g05$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #69304 |
On 3/28/14 10:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> Why must >> everyone in the world be stuck with a U.S. Royal typewriter keyboard for >> two or three hundred years? > > You are being patronising to the 94% of the world that is not from the > USA. Do you honestly think that people all over the world have been using > computers for 30 or 40 years without any way to enter their native > language? You think ~sooo three dimensionally. Picture this ~a unicode keyboard with morphing keytops (digital ink, light emitting); a standard layout of keys that are touch sensitive, are meta operative, and are able to input *every* language on earth (as well any symbol). The keyboard may emit light, but not necessarily. The keys may be raised, but not necessarily; they have a glassy feel, soft, sensual, and completely programmable. Code point pages (key top mappings literally) are selectable on|off screen. The keyboard is obviously wireless, and the entire keytopsection is mouse-able; the whole keyboard is a pinting device, with diff sections for scrolling &c. This keyboard will be standard in about 25 years... none exist today. One of the things I do is biblical and classical language support and translation (Latin, Hebrew, and Greek). I do translation work as well as papers, research, &c; I need four full keyboards. I'm getting by fairly well with the macs key mappings, but what I'm really after is the 21st century keyboard I'm dreaming about above. Think, virtual keyboard, on a keytoplayout... but separate from any touchable screen. And, think mac keytops (or flatter) not the plastic IBM typewriter like keyboards of today. Think beyond. marcus
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| From | Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-28 23:16 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lh5hdr$gu0$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #69305 |
On 3/28/14 11:07 PM, Mark H Harris wrote: > Think, virtual keyboard, on a keytoplayout... but separate from any > touchable screen. And, think mac keytops (or flatter) not the plastic > IBM typewriter like keyboards of today. Think beyond. What if~ when I select my UK standard keytop mappings (from my US custom keytop mappings) what if the actual keytops on the keyboard "morphed" into UK tops? Better yes, what if the whole keytopsection could morph into Greek tops? I am able to type in Greek, well I've been doing it for about 12 years, but it would be soooo much better if the keytopsection actually morphed. marcus
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| From | Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-28 23:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lh5hoh$hgt$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #69306 |
On 3/28/14 11:16 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
> I am able to type in Greek, well I've been doing it for about 12 years,
> but it would be soooo much better if the keytopsection actually morphed.
What if, when you opened your new computer in Botswana, and you selected
your language in gnu/linux lang setup, and your standard unicode
keyboard morphed into your favorite Tswana or Setswana { whatever } and
only ONE keyboard needed to be manufactured ?
re THINK
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-29 15:48 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.8682.1396068531.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #69305 |
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> wrote:
> You think ~sooo three dimensionally.
Yeah Doc, I have a real problem with that. -- Marty McFly
> Picture this ~a unicode keyboard with morphing keytops (digital ink, light
> emitting); a standard layout of keys that are touch sensitive, are meta
> operative, and are able to input *every* language on earth (as well any
> symbol). The keyboard may emit light, but not necessarily. The keys may be
> raised, but not necessarily; they have a glassy feel, soft, sensual, and
> completely programmable. Code point pages (key top mappings literally) are
> selectable on|off screen. The keyboard is obviously wireless, and the entire
> keytopsection is mouse-able; the whole keyboard is a pinting device, with
> diff sections for scrolling &c.
>
> This keyboard will be standard in about 25 years... none exist today.
Wrong. You just have to be willing to pay for it.
http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/181d/?srp=14
Or you could just get a blank keytops keyboard and reprogram it how
you like. But hey, have you noticed something? NOT ONE of these ideas
actually makes it easy to write Python code with occasional non-ASCII
characters in it. Switching keyboard mode for a single character is
horribly inefficient, especially if you have to remember a whole lot
of different modes for different characters ("lambda is
meta-butterfly-greek L meta-ctrl-space, and equality is
meta-mathematics 5 meta-ctrl-space"). Putting everything onto a single
keyboard is unworkable. Requiring you to press long key sequences to
generate single characters is useless. (You may as well just press
L-A-M-B-D-A and have it come out as "lambda".) Even with an ideal
keyboard, the creature of your fancies, you won't get past that, for
the same reason that we have keyboards that type letters rather than
English words.
ChrisA
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| From | Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-28 23:40 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lh5iqs$j0m$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #69304 |
On 3/28/14 10:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > You are being patronising to the 94% of the world that is not from the > USA. Do you honestly think that people all over the world have been using > computers for 30 or 40 years without any way to enter their native > language? uh, pretty much. That's why they called it ASCII American Standard Code for Information Interchange... yup, pretty much. Worked pretty well too, for many many years, because so many languages derive from Latin, and most non third world countries use Latin derived character sets; yes, although missing dieresis and grave and acute accents, &c. Specialized keytops are made now, but what if... Dream
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-29 16:08 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.8683.1396069736.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #69310 |
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> wrote: > On 3/28/14 10:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> >> You are being patronising to the 94% of the world that is not from the >> USA. Do you honestly think that people all over the world have been using >> computers for 30 or 40 years without any way to enter their native >> language? > > > uh, pretty much. That's why they called it ASCII American Standard Code > for Information Interchange... yup, pretty much. Worked pretty well too, > for many many years, because so many languages derive from Latin, and most > non third world countries use Latin derived character sets; yes, although > missing dieresis and grave and acute accents, &c. ... wow. Okay. History lesson time. http://nedbatchelder.com/text/unipain.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page Back before I was born, people were using computers to write messages that weren't in English. And they managed it, somehow. Can't imagine how, if all computers work exclusively with seven-bit Latin-derived character sets. "Most non-third-world countries use Latin-derived character sets". Hmm. Let's see. Greece, Russia, China, Japan, Israel, and Egypt are either third-world or just so insignificant that you can ignore them and say "most". Yeah, okay, we'll take that as read. Names are notoriously inaccurate when it comes to internationality. Ever heard of a place called IHOP? I hadn't, until I started talking to Americans. What's the difference between "global" and "universal"? We're clearly taking no notice of Martian languages here, much less anything outside our solar system. (If humans had non-FTL space travel five thousand years ago, there could now be colonies all over the universe, and we wouldn't necessarily even know about them. Those people would speak languages that can't possibly be Latin-derived; most likely they'd be derived from Hebrew or Arabic. In the event that they make contact, we're going to have to allocate some Unicode planes to them.) "Extended ASCII" is as international as Unicode, just less standardized. ChrisA
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| From | Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-28 22:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <706187e9-0df4-45fa-9f06-c3a1ddd1ae76@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #69313 |
On Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:38:47 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Mark H Harris wrote: > > On 3/28/14 10:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> You are being patronising to the 94% of the world that is not from the > >> USA. Do you honestly think that people all over the world have been using > >> computers for 30 or 40 years without any way to enter their native > >> language? > > uh, pretty much. That's why they called it ASCII American Standard Code > > for Information Interchange... yup, pretty much. Worked pretty well too, > > for many many years, because so many languages derive from Latin, and most > > non third world countries use Latin derived character sets; yes, although > > missing dieresis and grave and acute accents, &c. > ... wow. > Okay. History lesson time. > http://nedbatchelder.com/text/unipain.html > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page > Back before I was born, people were using computers to write messages > that weren't in English. And they managed it, somehow. Can't imagine > how, if all computers work exclusively with seven-bit Latin-derived > character sets. > "Most non-third-world countries use Latin-derived character sets". > Hmm. Let's see. Greece, Russia, China, Japan, Israel, and Egypt are > either third-world or just so insignificant that you can ignore them > and say "most". Yeah, okay, we'll take that as read. > Names are notoriously inaccurate when it comes to internationality. > Ever heard of a place called IHOP? I hadn't, until I started talking > to Americans. What's the difference between "global" and "universal"? > We're clearly taking no notice of Martian languages here, much less > anything outside our solar system. (If humans had non-FTL space travel > five thousand years ago, there could now be colonies all over the > universe, and we wouldn't necessarily even know about them. Those > people would speak languages that can't possibly be Latin-derived; > most likely they'd be derived from Hebrew or Arabic. In the event that > they make contact, we're going to have to allocate some Unicode planes > to them.) "Extended ASCII" is as international as Unicode, just less > standardized. > ChrisA For Indian languages there is usually a specific fully localized layout and a latin-derived one. In particular for devanagari, which is directly used (Hindi, Marathi) or close relative used (Gujarati, Bengali) there is inscript and itrans https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Indic/HindiKeyboardLayouts itrans is the latin-derived layout, inscript is the fully-localized, no-relation-to-US-104 one. I would not be able to use the inscript if I tried and this is true for most of the people I know even though in some theoretically ergonomic sense its more efficient. So in the sphere I am familiar with Mark seems to be right that ASCII == US-104 rules the planet. To go from this small-sample data to vast generalizations... I'll leave to others
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| From | Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-29 00:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <53365F55.2040302@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #69313 |
On 3/29/14 12:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> Okay. History lesson time.
>
Tell me what is the lingua franka today?
Is it, E n g l i s h ?
For many many many years people all over the earth were using
English and ASCII to communicate with early computers... they still are.
Almost every post on every site is English, and nearly every post on
every site is a Latin character derivative.
Kanji and Cyrillic , and Arabic are obvious exceptions to that
today, mostly because of unicode; NOT extend ASCII.
> Back before I was born, people were using computers to write messages
> that weren't in English.
No, they weren't... not most... some.
> And they managed it, somehow. Can't imagine
> how, if all computers work exclusively with seven-bit Latin-derived
> character sets.
Unicode. Shoot, most of the world didn't even have computers until
just a few years ago; none of the third world did, back in the day, and
the ones who did communicated in ASCII and English (or some broken
variant of it).
> "Most non-third-world countries use Latin-derived character sets".
See this quote from the consortium FAQ:
> So, for example, there is only one set of Latin characters
> defined, despite the fact that the Latin script
> is used for the alphabets of thousands of different languages.
http://www.unicode.org/faq/basic_q.html#3
marcus
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-29 17:03 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.8688.1396073027.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #69319 |
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> wrote: > On 3/29/14 12:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> >> Okay. History lesson time. >> > > Tell me what is the lingua franka today? > > Is it, E n g l i s h ? > > For many many many years people all over the earth were using English and > ASCII to communicate with early computers... they still are. Almost every > post on every site is English, and nearly every post on every site is a > Latin character derivative. http://forum.ecomstation.ru/ Prominent discussion forum, although that strives to be at least partially bilingual in deference to those of us who are so backward as to speak only English. > Kanji and Cyrillic , and Arabic are obvious exceptions to that today, > mostly because of unicode; NOT extend ASCII. > >> Back before I was born, people were using computers to write messages >> that weren't in English. > > > No, they weren't... not most... some. So, pre-Unicode, people didn't use any of those languages or writing systems with computers, is that what you're saying? That code pages 86x are a total myth? >> And they managed it, somehow. Can't imagine >> how, if all computers work exclusively with seven-bit Latin-derived >> character sets. > > > Unicode. Shoot, most of the world didn't even have computers until just a > few years ago; none of the third world did, back in the day, and the ones > who did communicated in ASCII and English (or some broken variant of it). Unicode didn't even begin to exist until 1987, and the first version of the standard wasn't published until 1991. You're seriously saying that until 1991 (plus however long it took to get implementations into people's hands) everyone spoke English with computers?!? >> "Most non-third-world countries use Latin-derived character sets". > > > See this quote from the consortium FAQ: > > > So, for example, there is only one set of Latin characters > > defined, despite the fact that the Latin script > > is used for the alphabets of thousands of different languages. > > http://www.unicode.org/faq/basic_q.html#3 Huh? I'm not sure whether you're trolling or genuinely ignorant of all history and other languages. Please clarify. If you really are just trolling, say so, and I'll start ignoring all your posts. You'll make yourself look less of a fool that way. ChrisA
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| From | Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-29 03:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lh5vq3$c1j$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #69321 |
On 3/29/14 1:03 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> http://forum.ecomstation.ru/
>
> Prominent discussion forum, although that strives to be at least
> partially bilingual in deference to those of us who are so backward as
> to speak only English.
Yes. Well, as the joke goes, if you're trilingual you speak three
languages, if you're bilingual you speak two languages, if you're
monolingual you're an American (well, that might go for Australia too,
maybe). When whole continents speak the same language that tends to happen.
>
> So, pre-Unicode, people didn't use any of those languages or writing
> systems with computers, is that what you're saying? That code pages
> 86x are a total myth?
No, no, no... don't over-read my post please. Think in orders of
magnitudes. In computer history very little is even mentioned outside
the U.S. This is, of course, not fair. The folks in the U.K. played a
huge role (the Alan Turing story, The Baby, Blakeley &c). The entire
world used ASCII, like, forever. Heck, its still being used!
Code pages are not a myth, but they were not prominent, either. And
of course prejudice is relatively spoken; I don't want to define it.
What I can tell you in my own experience, as an amateur radio
operator (W0MHH, general class) who has communicated all over the earth
(even to Soviet Russia), all my computer|radio comm was in English using
Morse code sets, Latin characters, and ASCII. No one ever asked me to
comm in Russian, or French, nor Italian, nor Tswana...
> Unicode didn't even begin to exist until 1987, and the first version
> of the standard wasn't published until 1991. You're seriously saying
> that until 1991 (plus however long it took to get implementations into
> people's hands) everyone spoke English with computers?!?
No. see above. I'm saying that (for the most part) international
communication has been Latin code pages and ASCII all over the earth,
until very recently (as you point out).. By the way, in my view, 1991 is
very recently; from a computer historical standpoint too. I mean, think
about it, computers have only existed since late 1940s and only in their
modern context since about 1989. I didn't really start using unicode
until about 5 years ago; python has only really used it since python3.
right?
>> See this quote from the consortium FAQ:
>>
>> > So, for example, there is only one set of Latin characters
>> > defined, despite the fact that the Latin script
>> > is used for the alphabets of thousands of different languages.
>>
>> http://www.unicode.org/faq/basic_q.html#3
>
> Huh?
The consortium designates scripts vs. languages. When folks ask them
about how many languages they support its a difficult answer. Do you
mean scripts ( of which there is only one Latin script ) or are you
referring to the *thousands* of different languages that are scripted in
Latin characters? Latin script is used in thousands of languages
world-wide; true story. (that's what the quote is above)
> I'm not sure whether you're trolling or genuinely ignorant of all
> history and other languages.
Neither. I never troll, and I'm not ignorant. We are only getting
cross-ways on this point more because of overlapping time frames I'm
guessing, and numbers. I know that people groups and various languages
were being used around the world in pockets for various purposes. I was
part of the support group at IBM, for instance, that helped with the
debugging process when we started supporting Kanji on the system36
system38. I know that kind of stuff was happening. But when it came to
communicating world-wide for business (or in my case with radiography)
it was always ASCII, Latin character sets, and in my case English Morse
or international Morse code sets (derived from English).
> Please clarify. If you really are just
> trolling, say so, and I'll start ignoring all your posts.
No, Chris. I never troll. (that would make my fingers itch)
:)
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-03-29 15:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.8690.1396107966.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #69324 |
On 29/03/2014 08:21, Mark H Harris wrote: > > Yes. Well, as the joke goes, if you're trilingual you speak three > languages, if you're bilingual you speak two languages, if you're > monolingual you're an American (well, that might go for Australia too, > maybe). When whole continents speak the same language that tends to happen. You mean like the USA, where I saw an ad in a shop for a bilingual shop assistant? Or is Spanish so like US English it doesn't count as a separate language? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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| From | Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-30 00:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lh8bej$n7b$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #69329 |
On 3/29/14 10:45 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 29/03/2014 08:21, Mark H Harris wrote: >> >> Yes. Well, as the joke goes, if you're trilingual you speak three >> languages, if you're bilingual you speak two languages, if you're >> monolingual you're an American (well, that might go for Australia too, >> maybe). When whole continents speak the same language that tends to >> happen. > > You mean like the USA, where I saw an ad in a shop for a bilingual shop > assistant? Or is Spanish so like US English it doesn't count as a > separate language? I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. We have people here from all over the earth, and enough illegal immigrants speaking Spanish to account for a population about the size of Ohio. But, Americans are mostly monolingual. ...point of fact. The people of the United States are in a smallish battle over whether the official language of the United States should be English? In other words, no special signs, if you're going to live here you're going to learn English (end of the story, for some people). I'm not in that camp. I am preparing to start French studies soon. My son and daughter are fifth year fluent in Spanish (my daughter is minoring in Spanish, and plans study abroad for that purpose as she prepares for medical school. There is no nice way to say this... we have a lot of pin-headed bigots living here that have to intention nor inclination to learn another language. Some of them even think that if English was good enough for Jesus , its got to be good enough for them (I'm not kidding). Sadly, true. But then, more than half of our population is not aware that the earth revolves around the sun, either. :-} Cheers
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-30 06:31 +0000 |
| Subject | OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] |
| Message-ID | <5337ba48$0$29994$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #69368 |
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 00:52:20 -0500, Mark H Harris wrote: > On 3/29/14 10:45 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> On 29/03/2014 08:21, Mark H Harris wrote: >>> >>> Yes. Well, as the joke goes, if you're trilingual you speak three >>> languages, if you're bilingual you speak two languages, if you're >>> monolingual you're an American (well, that might go for Australia too, >>> maybe). When whole continents speak the same language that tends to >>> happen. >> >> You mean like the USA, where I saw an ad in a shop for a bilingual shop >> assistant? Or is Spanish so like US English it doesn't count as a >> separate language? > > I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. We have people here from > all over the earth, and enough illegal immigrants speaking Spanish to > account for a population about the size of Ohio. *raises eyebrow* Did you intend to imply that it is only illegal immigrants who speak Spanish in the USA? The most recent US census found there are 38.5 million people in the US who primarily speak Spanish, and 45 million who speak it as their first or second language. In comparison, there are only an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants (of which only 7 million is from Mexico). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language_in_the_United_States -- Steven D'Aprano http://import-that.dreamwidth.org/
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-03-30 17:43 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] |
| Message-ID | <mailman.8713.1396161820.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #69375 |
On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote: > Did you intend to imply that it is only illegal immigrants who speak > Spanish in the USA? I think he's correct there. After all, anyone who doesn't fit the white-skinned monolingual (barely-one-language, really) middle-class stereotype *MUST* be an illegal immigrant - right? That's how you recognize who to be rude to. http://notalwaysright.com/pepperoni-extremism/3163 http://notalwaysright.com/no-obamacare-for-you/17102 http://notalwaysworking.com/they-are-rotten-to-the-corps-part-2/32108 ... and plenty more stories besides. ChrisA
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| From | Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-30 01:48 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] |
| Message-ID | <lh8enq$t7e$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #69375 |
On 3/30/14 1:31 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. We have people here from
>> all over the earth, and enough illegal immigrants speaking Spanish to
>> account for a population about the size of Ohio.
>
> *raises eyebrow*
>
> Did you intend to imply that it is only illegal immigrants who speak
> Spanish in the USA?
Don't be silly, Steven, it doesn't become you.
> The most recent US census found there are 38.5 million people in the US
> who primarily speak Spanish, and 45 million who speak it as their first
> or second language. In comparison, there are only an estimated 11 million
> illegal immigrants (of which only 7 million is from Mexico).
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language_in_the_United_States
Hilarious! That's part of the problem, um, its because they are
*illegal* that the census bureau does not know about them in terms of
exact numbers; its a nice effort though.
America is a melting pot (always has been). We have thousands of
ethnic groups living here and thousands of languages spoken here. All of
them are in some place on the continuum of English as a second language;
its the only way to survive here.
marcus
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-30 10:35 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OFF TOPIC Spanish in the USA [was Re: Explanation of this Python language feature?] |
| Message-ID | <5337f383$0$29994$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #69378 |
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 01:48:27 -0500, Mark H Harris wrote: > On 3/30/14 1:31 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >>> I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. We have people here >>> from all over the earth, and enough illegal immigrants speaking >>> Spanish to account for a population about the size of Ohio. >> >> *raises eyebrow* >> >> Did you intend to imply that it is only illegal immigrants who speak >> Spanish in the USA? > > Don't be silly, Steven, it doesn't become you. Given the sorts of patronising, condescending things you insist are true about non-Americans, such as their supposed inability to communicate in their own language on the Internet, I wasn't sure. >> The most recent US census found there are 38.5 million people in the US >> who primarily speak Spanish, and 45 million who speak it as their first >> or second language. In comparison, there are only an estimated 11 >> million illegal immigrants (of which only 7 million is from Mexico). >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language_in_the_United_States > > Hilarious! That's part of the problem, um, its because they are > *illegal* that the census bureau does not know about them in terms of > exact numbers; its a nice effort though. The number of illegal immigrants is not estimated from the Census numbers directly. It's not like they have a tick box "Are you in this country illegally?". Just because *you* don't know how illegal immigrant numbers are estimated, or what margin of error those estimates might have, don't make the mistake of imagining that any such effort is "hilarious", a joke, or otherwise useless. Naturally the figure is *estimated*, I even said it was estimated, and gave it as a round number. If I had said there were 11,205,971 illegal immigrants in the USA as of last Tuesday, then you would have a good excuse to mock my spurious precision. Otherwise, not so much. > America is a melting pot (always has been). We have thousands of > ethnic groups living here and thousands of languages spoken here. Not really. There are under 350 languages spoken in the USA. Over 92% of the population speaking just two of them, English and Spanish, with Chinese a *very* distant third. Only eight languages are spoken by more than 1 million people. Even if you double that figure, to capture "that one guy who speaks Gunwinyguan" and other outliers, you still end up well under even a single thousand. The surprising thing to me about this is not that the number of languages is so low (there are about 6000-7000 languages in the world), but that it is so high. I would have predicted well under 100. After all, spoken language popularity is an excellent example of network effects: the more people who speak a language, the more valuable it is to speak the same language. Network effects explain why, out of the six or seven thousand languages in the world, just thirteen account for more than half the world's population: 1) Mandarin 2) Spanish 3) English 4) Hindi 5) Arabic 6) Portuguese 7) Bengali 8) Russian 9) Japanese 10) Punjabi 11) German 12) Javanese 13) Wu adding up to 51%. The next thirteen bring the total to 64%. (Figures are, naturally, approximate and subject to change.) > All of > them are in some place on the continuum of English as a second language; > its the only way to survive here. Approximately 5% of the US population either do not speak English at all, or speak it poorly. That includes approximately half a million ASL speakers (American Sign Language, which is not a manual representation of English but an independent language in it's own right), the majority of whom are unable to speak or understand spoken English. Be careful of making sweeping generalisations like "the only way to survive". Especially when they're so judgemental. It's not like there are gangs of armed militia hunting down deaf children and foreign grannies who only speak the language of their homeland. Well, maybe in Arizona. *wink* -- Steven D'Aprano http://import-that.dreamwidth.org/
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