Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.lang.python > #86920 > unrolled thread

HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code??

Back to article view | Back to comp.lang.python

Contents

  HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Xrrific <xiaokun3@gmail.com> - 2015-03-04 17:34 -0800
    Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Marcos Almeida Azevedo <marcos.al.azevedo@gmail.com> - 2015-03-05 09:37 +0800
      Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2015-03-04 17:44 -0800
    Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2015-03-04 20:46 -0500
    Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-03-04 20:50 -0500
    Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Ryan Stuart <ryan.stuart.85@gmail.com> - 2015-03-05 02:00 +0000
    Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-05 13:22 +1100
    Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Mario Figueiredo <marfig@gmail.com> - 2015-03-05 03:44 +0100
    Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2015-03-04 18:50 -0800
      Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-05 14:00 +1100
        Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2015-03-05 10:28 -0800
          Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-06 05:46 +1100
            Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-03-06 09:15 +1100
              Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-06 09:59 +1100
                Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-03-06 13:53 +1100
                  Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-06 14:23 +1100
                    Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2015-03-06 11:53 +0000
                      Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-03-06 09:17 -0700
                      Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-06 16:35 +0000
                      Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-03-07 04:03 +1100
                        Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-07 10:22 +1100
                      Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2015-03-07 18:06 +1300
                        Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-03-06 21:27 -0800
                        Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-08 05:19 +0000
                          Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? hamilton <hamilton@nothere.com> - 2015-03-07 23:54 -0700
                  Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-06 14:37 +1100
                    Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-03-06 08:49 -0800
                  How fast does your grass grow?  [was Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code??] Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2015-03-05 19:48 -0800
                  Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-06 03:59 +0000
                  Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-06 18:57 +1100
                  Re: How fast does your grass grow? [was Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code??] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-06 15:04 +1100
              Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-05 23:07 +0000
      Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-03-05 20:46 -0500
      Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? llanitedave <llanitedave@birdandflower.com> - 2015-03-06 08:25 -0800
    Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? km <srikrishnamohan@gmail.com> - 2015-03-05 11:28 +0530
    Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Tim <jtim.arnold@gmail.com> - 2015-03-09 06:20 -0700
    Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Omar Abou Mrad <omar.aboumrad@gmail.com> - 2015-03-09 15:39 +0200
    Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Jonas Wielicki <jonas@wielicki.name> - 2015-03-09 20:12 +0100

Page 2 of 2 — ← Prev page 1 [2]

#87066

Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> writes:

> (Well, I call it a "mild put-down". Ben may or may not agree that it is
> mild.)

I agree that the put-down is mild, in that the person uttering it
probably doesn't expect it to be more than a mild insult to the person
they were addressing.

That's quite orthogonal to the fact that invoking gender as an insult is
strongly undermining the goal of making our community welcoming to all
genders. That effect on third parties is completely unrelated to the
intended magnitude of the insult.

I'm glad we have common cause. Let's keep calling out harmful crap when
we see it.

-- 
 \     “Airports are ugly. Some are very ugly. Some attain a degree of |
  `\        ugliness that can only be the result of a special effort.” |
_o__)       —Douglas Adams, _The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul_, 1988 |
Ben Finney

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#87073

alister wrote:
> a popular UK soap made an extreme 
> effort not to show a cross or Christmas tree during a church wedding in 
> case it "offended not-Christians".

In today's climate, when offending certain varieties
of non-Christian can get you blown up or shot, it might
not be quite as silly as it sounds.

-- 
Greg

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#87074

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 10:36:54 AM UTC+5:30, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> alister wrote:
> > a popular UK soap made an extreme 
> > effort not to show a cross or Christmas tree during a church wedding in 
> > case it "offended not-Christians".
> 
> In today's climate, when offending certain varieties
> of non-Christian can get you blown up or shot, it might
> not be quite as silly as it sounds.
> 
> -- 
> Greg

Best we know, stupidity and geography dont correlate.

Likewise stupidity and religious affiliation:
http://rmitz.org/freebsd.daemon.html

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#87130

On 2015-03-07, Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> wrote:
> alister wrote:
>
>> a popular UK soap made an extreme effort not to show a cross or
>> Christmas tree during a church wedding in case it "offended
>> not-Christians".
>
> In today's climate, when offending certain varieties
> of non-Christian can get you blown up or shot, it might
> not be quite as silly as it sounds.

The same can happen if you offend certain varieties of Christians.

--
Grant

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#87132

On 3/7/2015 10:19 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2015-03-07, Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> wrote:
>> alister wrote:
>>
>>> a popular UK soap made an extreme effort not to show a cross or
>>> Christmas tree during a church wedding in case it "offended
>>> not-Christians".
>>
>> In today's climate, when offending certain varieties
>> of non-Christian can get you blown up or shot, it might
>> not be quite as silly as it sounds.
>
> The same can happen if you offend certain varieties of Christians.

Does Centennial Olympic Park sound familiar ?

Christians and Republicans forgot what Jesus had to say.

Which means they are NOT Christians.

http://www.amazon.com/How-Republicans-Stole-Religion-Religious/dp/0385516045

>
> --
> Grant
>

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#86979

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> writes:
>
>> Ben Finney wrote:
>>
>> > “get their panties all up in a bunch” is a gendered slur.
>>
>> Why do you interpret that as insulting to women merely on the basis of
>> being *female*?
>
> I think your question is in bad faith. You know as well as I do, and I'm
> confident the person who wrote the slur knows, that “panties” strongly
> connotes *female* underwear.

Allow me to summarize this subthread:

* sohcahtoa makes a comment implying that this list is full of nerds
who know nothing about dating. Gender-nonspecific and most likely
self-deprecating as much as insulting.
* I responded with a reference to a nerdy movie ("Real Genius", and if
you haven't seen it, go grab it - it's funny), which perhaps was not
recognized, leading to the post in which:
* sohcahtoa misunderstands me and thinks I was offended at his post
(which I wasn't), and gets his hackles up, thinking the original
nerd-dating-advice comment shouldn't have been offensive
* Two people then go back and forth about whether or not the previous
three posts were offensive.

The whole field of getting vicariously offended is a mess. It's
virtually impossible to judge what will and what will not cause
offense (sure, there are some easy cases, and if you use a six-letter
word beginning with "n" to refer to someone with more skin melanin
than yourself, then you will be very rightly shouted down - but most
cases aren't anything like that clear, and even that word wasn't
originally offensive in itself), and we have interminable debates
about what should and shouldn't be said. Can we please keep these
sub-threads short? Once it's gone through a couple of rounds of
response, it's not going to get anywhere new. All we have is people
getting annoyed on behalf of an unspecified person or group of people,
and offense being given and taken and regifted like Christmas presents
from your distant relatives. I'm sure there's something more
interesting to talk about... like the rate at which the grass is
growing.

Thanks!

ChrisA

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#87041

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 9:08:07 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Allow me to summarize this subthread:
> 
> * sohcahtoa makes a comment implying that this list is full of nerds
> who know nothing about dating. Gender-nonspecific and most likely
> self-deprecating as much as insulting.
> * I responded with a reference to a nerdy movie ("Real Genius", and if
> you haven't seen it, go grab it - it's funny), which perhaps was not
> recognized, leading to the post in which:
> * sohcahtoa misunderstands me and thinks I was offended at his post
> (which I wasn't), and gets his hackles up, thinking the original
> nerd-dating-advice comment shouldn't have been offensive
> * Two people then go back and forth about whether or not the previous
> three posts were offensive.
> 

Nice summary of the ridiculous
Except you missed the subject of the thread

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#86982 — How fast does your grass grow? [was Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code??]

[Multipart message — attachments visible in raw view] — view raw

On 03/05/2015 07:37 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:

> I'm sure there's something more interesting to talk about... like the
> rate at which the grass is growing.

My grass doesn't grow -- I ripped it all out and put down pea-gravel and planter boxes.

Oh, wait, I have some bamboo in the back -- that's a grass, isn't it?  Hmmm, well, it grows fast enough that my dogs
haven't managed to eat it gone yet.  :)

--
~Ethan~

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#86983

On 06/03/2015 03:23, Ben Finney wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> writes:
>
>> Ben Finney wrote:
>>
>>> “get their panties all up in a bunch” is a gendered slur.
>>
>> Why do you interpret that as insulting to women merely on the basis of
>> being *female*?
>
> I think your question is in bad faith. You know as well as I do, and I'm
> confident the person who wrote the slur knows, that “panties” strongly
> connotes *female* underwear.
>
>> It seems to me that far from challenging sexual stereotypes,
>> mainstream feminist thought actually *reinforces* it: as evidence, you
>> assumed that only women wear panties, therefore any reference to
>> panty-wearing is therefore a slur on women.
>
> No. I'm saying that it's clear the person saying “get their panties all
> up in a bunch” fully intends to convey specifically *female* underwear,
> and thereby to use implied femininity as an insult.
>
> Yes, of course I know some people who aren't female wear panties. Yes,
> of course I know some women wear underwear that isn't panties. Don't try
> to change the topic with absurd logical extremes that I didn't raise.
>
> I'm talking about the implication of the comment as a gendered insult.
>
>> It's only gender specific if you accept the sexist gendered stereotype
>> that all women are by definition thin-skinned and excessively
>> sensitive.
>
> Bullshit. I said nothing about the sensitivity of anyone. Individual
> women you may know – even *all* women, everywhere – could be as tough as
> nails, and it doesn't address the point I'm raising.
>
> Whether any particular woman is targeted or not, the comment I'm
> responding to invokes female gender as an implied insult. That's
> unwelcoming to women, and I don't want such unwelcoming attitudes in
> this community.
>

I'd rather be reading about the 4,773 open issues on the bug tracker. 
As I consider this rather more important than some completely tangential 
load of cobblers, would you and MR D'Aprano be kind enough to go and 
have your 12, 3 minute rounds elsewhere, thanks?

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#86992

Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> writes:

> * Two people then go back and forth about whether or not the previous
> three posts were offensive.

I called out a specific gendered slur as such. Nothing to do with
“offense”, and I made no such claim.

> The whole field of getting vicariously offended is a mess.

It's a good thing I was not doing that, then. I was calling out an
anti-female slur where I saw it.

> All we have is people getting annoyed on behalf of an unspecified
> person or group of people

If you missed the specified group, I'll say it again: Anyone who is
female had their gender used as though it were an insult.

That's not welcoming to women, and if it goes unchallenged then we give
the perception it is acceptable. It is not, so we must say so as clearly
as we can.

Where people have further misrepresented my complaint or my position,
I've necessarily corrected them. Hopefully I've been clear enough that
no-one needs to once more impute words or motivations to me that I never
expressed.

-- 
 \        “The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more |
  `\         expected.” —Unix Programmer's Manual, 2nd Ed., 1972-06-12 |
_o__)                                                                  |
Ben Finney

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#86995 — Re: How fast does your grass grow? [was Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code??]

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> wrote:
> On 03/05/2015 07:37 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> I'm sure there's something more interesting to talk about... like the
>> rate at which the grass is growing.
>
> My grass doesn't grow -- I ripped it all out and put down pea-gravel and planter boxes.
>
> Oh, wait, I have some bamboo in the back -- that's a grass, isn't it?  Hmmm, well, it grows fast enough that my dogs
> haven't managed to eat it gone yet.  :)

Our grass is actually growing at the moment, which is unusual for
Australia at this time of year. Usually it's in a state of bronzing
part way through December, and basically stays that way until well
into February.

ChrisA

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#86962

On 05/03/2015 22:59, Ben Finney wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> writes:
>
>> Ben Finney wrote:
>>
>>> sohcahtoa82@gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>>> I should have known better than to make a joke on this mailing
>>>> list. Someone is bound to get their panties all up in a bunch.
>>>
>>> You should have known better than to make gendered slurs. Claiming
>>> “it was a joke” doesn't alter the sexism of your remarks. Cut that
>>> out.
>>
>> "You're asking a bunch of nerds for dating advice?"
>
> “get their panties all up in a bunch” is a gendered slur. It is implying
> the person is female, as though the person should feel insulted by that.
> It uses the female gender as an insult.
>
> That's not welcoming to anyone female, and we should all be welcoming to
> anyone of any gender here — which includes not using any gender as the
> punch-line of a joke.
>

I just wish this kind of approach was used consistently across the 
board.  That way we wouldn't have had to put up with the appalling slurs 
from our RUE (Resident Unicode Expert) for perhaps two years.

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#86972

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 14:00:35 +1100, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
declaimed the following:

>
>Some of these nerds are married, others have at least had a successful
>romantic life. Granted, dating advice isn't _quite_ on-topic for
>python-list, but still, I'm sure there are plenty of people here who
>are not the stereotypical nerd "all brains, no ..." that Chris Knight
>didn't want to appear as.
>

	This one is an Imperial Vargr <G>

	{and celibate -- a seeming strange condition for a "space wolf"]
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#87034

On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 6:50:32 PM UTC-8, sohca...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 5:34:16 PM UTC-8, Xrrific wrote:
> > Guys, please Help!!!
> > 
> > I am trying to impress a girl who is learning python and want ask her out at the same time.
> > 
> > Could you please come up with something witty incorporating a simple python line like If...then... but..etc.
> > 
> > You will make me a very happy man!!!
> > 
> > Thank you very much!!!
> 
> You're asking a bunch of nerds for dating advice?

Girls can be nerds too, ya know...

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#86932

[Multipart message — attachments visible in raw view] — view raw

show her your python and and impress her.
Regards,
Krishna

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Xrrific <xiaokun3@gmail.com> wrote:

> Guys, please Help!!!
>
> I am trying to impress a girl who is learning python and want ask her out
> at the same time.
>
> Could you please come up with something witty incorporating a simple
> python line like If...then... but..etc.
>
> You will make me a very happy man!!!
>
> Thank you very much!!!
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#87194

On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 8:34:16 PM UTC-5, Xrrific wrote:
> Guys, please Help!!!
> 
> I am trying to impress a girl who is learning python and want ask her out at the same time.
> 
> Could you please come up with something witty incorporating a simple python line like If...then... but..etc.
> 
> You will make me a very happy man!!!
> 
> Thank you very much!!!

r = False
while r != 'yes':
    r = raw_input('do you like me (yes/no): ')
print 'i like you too!'

might make her smile....
--Tim

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#87198

[Multipart message — attachments visible in raw view] — view raw

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:34 AM, Xrrific <xiaokun3@gmail.com> wrote:

> Guys, please Help!!!
>
> I am trying to impress a girl who is learning python and want ask her out
> at the same time.
>
> Could you please come up with something witty incorporating a simple
> python line like If...then... but..etc.
>
> You will make me a very happy man!!!
>
> Thank you very much!!!
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>

>>> print "Svar lbh jva! V'yy cvpx lbh hc gbzbeebj ng 7 :)".decode('rot13')

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#87222

On 09.03.2015 14:39, Omar Abou Mrad wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:34 AM, Xrrific <xiaokun3@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Guys, please Help!!!
>>
>> I am trying to impress a girl who is learning python and want ask her out
>> at the same time.
>>
>> Could you please come up with something witty incorporating a simple
>> python line like If...then... but..etc.
>>
>> You will make me a very happy man!!!
>>
>> Thank you very much!!!
>> --
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>>
> 
>>>> print "Svar lbh jva! V'yy cvpx lbh hc gbzbeebj ng 7 :)".decode('rot13')

That won’t work if she’s actually smart. I mean, that’s python2. ;-)

regards,
jwi

[toc] | [prev] | [standalone]

Page 2 of 2 — ← Prev page 1 [2]

Back to top | Article view | comp.lang.python

csiph-web