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Geezer learns python

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First post2014-03-04 23:03 +0000
Last post2014-03-05 18:52 +1100
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  Geezer learns python notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2014-03-04 23:03 +0000
    Re: Geezer learns python Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> - 2014-03-04 15:05 -0800
    Re: Geezer learns python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-05 10:10 +1100
    Re: Geezer learns python Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-03-04 16:11 -0700
    Re: Geezer learns python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-04 23:27 +0000
    Re: Geezer learns python "Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-04 20:03 -0800
    Re: Geezer learns python David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2014-03-05 18:52 +1100

#67750 — Geezer learns python

Fromnotbob <notbob@nothome.com>
Date2014-03-04 23:03 +0000
SubjectGeezer learns python
Message-ID<bnn4dhFcq4jU2@mid.individual.net>
I'm trying to learn python.  I'm doing it via Zed Shaw's Learn Python
the Hard Way.  Sure enough, 16 lessons in and I've run aground.  Is it
OK for a painfully stupid ol' fart to ask painfully stupid noob
questions, here?  I'm a long time usenet fan and prefer it to irc.

I've run Slackware for many yrs and know jes enough bash to get the
drift of a slack script, but am no programmer, not by any stretch of
the imagination.  I really wanna succeed on this one and have signed
up for an online python class from Rice U.  I'd like to finish Zed's
tutorial by the 24th of this month.  I'm retired, so have the time to
burn.  Thnx.  ;)

nb

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#67751

FromTobiah <toby@tobiah.org>
Date2014-03-04 15:05 -0800
Message-ID<53165C50.6030602@tobiah.org>
In reply to#67750
On 03/04/2014 03:03 PM, notbob wrote:
> I'm trying to learn python.  I'm doing it via Zed Shaw's Learn Python
> the Hard Way.  Sure enough, 16 lessons in and I've run aground.  Is it
> OK for a painfully stupid ol' fart to ask painfully stupid noob
> questions, here?  I'm a long time usenet fan and prefer it to irc.
>
> I've run Slackware for many yrs and know jes enough bash to get the
> drift of a slack script, but am no programmer, not by any stretch of
> the imagination.  I really wanna succeed on this one and have signed
> up for an online python class from Rice U.  I'd like to finish Zed's
> tutorial by the 24th of this month.  I'm retired, so have the time to
> burn.  Thnx.  ;)
>
> nb
>

All are welcome here.  Try to narrow down the focus of the
question, and where applicable, post source code and program
output.

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#67752

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2014-03-05 10:10 +1100
Message-ID<mailman.7765.1393974657.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#67750
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:03 AM, notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:
> I'm trying to learn python.  I'm doing it via Zed Shaw's Learn Python
> the Hard Way.  Sure enough, 16 lessons in and I've run aground.  Is it
> OK for a painfully stupid ol' fart to ask painfully stupid noob
> questions, here?  I'm a long time usenet fan and prefer it to irc.

Yep! Either here or on the python-tutor list:

https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Just remember to give your question a good subject line, and have all
the necessary details there. This is long, but if you want to know how
to "get the most" out of a community like this, consider this to be
the cheat modes. IDKFA!

http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

ChrisA

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#67753

FromMichael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com>
Date2014-03-04 16:11 -0700
Message-ID<mailman.7766.1393974708.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#67750
On 03/04/2014 04:03 PM, notbob wrote:
> I'm trying to learn python.  I'm doing it via Zed Shaw's Learn Python
> the Hard Way.  Sure enough, 16 lessons in and I've run aground.  Is it
> OK for a painfully stupid ol' fart to ask painfully stupid noob
> questions, here?  I'm a long time usenet fan and prefer it to irc.
> 
> I've run Slackware for many yrs and know jes enough bash to get the
> drift of a slack script, but am no programmer, not by any stretch of
> the imagination.  I really wanna succeed on this one and have signed
> up for an online python class from Rice U.  I'd like to finish Zed's
> tutorial by the 24th of this month.  I'm retired, so have the time to
> burn.  Thnx.  ;)

I say, fire away.  I think you'll find a decent reception here.

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#67757

FromMark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2014-03-04 23:27 +0000
Message-ID<mailman.7770.1393975649.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#67750
On 04/03/2014 23:03, notbob wrote:
> I'm trying to learn python.  I'm doing it via Zed Shaw's Learn Python
> the Hard Way.  Sure enough, 16 lessons in and I've run aground.  Is it
> OK for a painfully stupid ol' fart to ask painfully stupid noob
> questions, here?  I'm a long time usenet fan and prefer it to irc.
>
> I've run Slackware for many yrs and know jes enough bash to get the
> drift of a slack script, but am no programmer, not by any stretch of
> the imagination.  I really wanna succeed on this one and have signed
> up for an online python class from Rice U.  I'd like to finish Zed's
> tutorial by the 24th of this month.  I'm retired, so have the time to
> burn.  Thnx.  ;)
>
> nb
>

You might feel more comfortable on the tutor mailing list 
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

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My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask 
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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#67790

From"Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com>
Date2014-03-04 20:03 -0800
Message-ID<04771cd8-4702-4fb6-a49d-29e265f51927@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#67750
On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 5:03:13 PM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
{snip}

hi notbob,
   Get a good book on python3 programming {Barnes and Noble, 
Amazon} and please, start with python (3).

   Great book:  & fabulous tutorial:

Summerfield, Mark. Programming in Python 3: A Complete Introduction to the Python Language.
Developer's Library. 2nd Edition. (Upper Saddle River: Addison-Wesley, 2010)

The book is 630 pages, illustrated, and explains everything with very 
clear insightful use cases, example coding, and exercises. It is also
not a bad reference, although there are better ones.  IMHO if you can
purchase just one book on python programming, this is it.

Also, don't forget that google is your friend. You will find the python
community very friendly (as compared to some groups) but folks can
be short if the questions show little or no research. There are great 
tutorials on-line for python too, and very good doc. 

Start here:  http://docs.python.org/3.3/tutorial/

Also Docs:  http://docs.python.org/3.3/#

Cheers
marcus

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#67821

FromDavid <bouncingcats@gmail.com>
Date2014-03-05 18:52 +1100
Message-ID<mailman.7798.1394005955.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#67750
On 5 March 2014 10:03, notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to learn python.  I'm doing it via Zed Shaw's Learn Python
> the Hard Way.  Sure enough, 16 lessons in and I've run aground.  Is it
> OK for a painfully stupid ol' fart to ask painfully stupid noob
> questions, here?  I'm a long time usenet fan and prefer it to irc.

The python-tutor mailing list exists for precisely those kind of questions:

  https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

You might also find it interesting to browse/download previous messages
in the archive at that link.

See you there :)

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