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pip and distutils2-1.0a4

Started by"Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com>
First post2014-03-03 12:10 -0800
Last post2014-03-03 17:22 -0800
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  pip and distutils2-1.0a4 "Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-03 12:10 -0800
    Re: pip and distutils2-1.0a4 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-03 20:53 +0000
      Re: pip and distutils2-1.0a4 "Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-03 13:20 -0800
        Re: pip and distutils2-1.0a4 Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2014-03-03 21:32 +0000
          Re: pip and distutils2-1.0a4 "Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-03 13:37 -0800
            Re: pip and distutils2-1.0a4 Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-03 16:44 -0500
            Re: pip and distutils2-1.0a4 Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2014-03-03 22:11 +0000
              Re: pip and distutils2-1.0a4 "Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-03 17:22 -0800

#67576 — pip and distutils2-1.0a4

From"Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com>
Date2014-03-03 12:10 -0800
Subjectpip and distutils2-1.0a4
Message-ID<248fe774-aed4-4a59-afac-e746e2110dd7@googlegroups.com>
hi folks,

I am having a fit with pip this afternoon.  I finally
got pip installed on this system from a binary 
blob (what nightmare, talk about 1987). Anyway,
pip is installed, but when I go to PyPI to pull 
down distutils is gives a message that no such
package exists.   I feel like Obeewan;  "if the archive
computer says your planet is not there, it simply
does not exist".
Can somebody tell me what is the best way to get
distutils downloaded to this system?
Thanks in advance.
Somewhere I heard a rumor that distutils is preloaded
with Py3.3.x /  is this True?  like, I might already have 
it??
thanks again
marcus

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#67578

FromMark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2014-03-03 20:53 +0000
Message-ID<mailman.7656.1393880003.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#67576
On 03/03/2014 20:10, Mark H. Harris wrote:
> hi folks,
>
> I am having a fit with pip this afternoon.  I finally
> got pip installed on this system from a binary
> blob (what nightmare, talk about 1987). Anyway,
> pip is installed, but when I go to PyPI to pull
> down distutils is gives a message that no such
> package exists.   I feel like Obeewan;  "if the archive
> computer says your planet is not there, it simply
> does not exist".
> Can somebody tell me what is the best way to get
> distutils downloaded to this system?
> Thanks in advance.
> Somewhere I heard a rumor that distutils is preloaded
> with Py3.3.x /  is this True?  like, I might already have
> it??
> thanks again
> marcus
>

distutils has been part of the standard library for years.

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what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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#67583

From"Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com>
Date2014-03-03 13:20 -0800
Message-ID<acf1abdd-b0e7-4d4f-ab76-18c2998b8742@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#67578
On Monday, March 3, 2014 2:53:00 PM UTC-6, Mark Lawrence wrote:

> distutils has been part of the standard library for years.

hi Mark, that's fabulous, why can't I import it? Because I'm doing 
something wrong of course.   :)

marcus

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#67586

FromRobert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com>
Date2014-03-03 21:32 +0000
Message-ID<mailman.7662.1393882380.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#67583
On 2014-03-03 21:20, Mark H. Harris wrote:
> On Monday, March 3, 2014 2:53:00 PM UTC-6, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>
>> distutils has been part of the standard library for years.
>
> hi Mark, that's fabulous, why can't I import it? Because I'm doing
> something wrong of course.   :)

Probably. If you want us to help, you need to show us what you tried, tell us 
what results you expected, and copy-paste the output that you got.

-- 
Robert Kern

"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
  that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
  an underlying truth."
   -- Umberto Eco

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#67588

From"Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com>
Date2014-03-03 13:37 -0800
Message-ID<31feb451-7fb6-48a6-9986-bddce69c4991@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#67586
On Monday, March 3, 2014 3:32:43 PM UTC-6, Robert Kern wrote:

> Probably. If you want us to help, you need to show us what you tried, tell us 
> what results you expected, and copy-paste the output that you got.

> Robert Kern

hi Robert,  well, I finally came up with trying to find setup().  Its a part of 
distutils.core. So, I tried:

from distutils.core import setup
from distutils import *

Then I tried to run setup() --help-commands and python3 crashed.

What did I do wrong?   running Py3.3.4

Thanks, marcus

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#67590

FromRoy Smith <roy@panix.com>
Date2014-03-03 16:44 -0500
Message-ID<roy-A6DF0A.16443103032014@news.panix.com>
In reply to#67588
In article <31feb451-7fb6-48a6-9986-bddce69c4991@googlegroups.com>,
 "Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, March 3, 2014 3:32:43 PM UTC-6, Robert Kern wrote:
> 
> > Probably. If you want us to help, you need to show us what you tried, tell 
> > us 
> > what results you expected, and copy-paste the output that you got.
> 
> > Robert Kern
> 
> hi Robert,  well, I finally came up with trying to find setup().  Its a part 
> of 
> distutils.core. So, I tried:
> 
> from distutils.core import setup
> from distutils import *
> 
> Then I tried to run setup() --help-commands and python3 crashed.
> 
> What did I do wrong?   running Py3.3.4
> 
> Thanks, marcus

General advice to everybody who asks questions.  Please don't *describe* 
what you did.  *Show* us what you did.  Run your commands in a terminal 
window and then copy-and-paste everything that you typed and everything 
that got printed.

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#67597

FromRobert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com>
Date2014-03-03 22:11 +0000
Message-ID<mailman.7667.1393884714.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#67588
On 2014-03-03 21:37, Mark H. Harris wrote:
> On Monday, March 3, 2014 3:32:43 PM UTC-6, Robert Kern wrote:
>
>> Probably. If you want us to help, you need to show us what you tried, tell us
>> what results you expected, and copy-paste the output that you got.
>
>> Robert Kern
>
> hi Robert,  well, I finally came up with trying to find setup().  Its a part of
> distutils.core. So, I tried:
>
> from distutils.core import setup
> from distutils import *
>
> Then I tried to run setup() --help-commands and python3 crashed.
>
> What did I do wrong?   running Py3.3.4

You don't run `setup() --help-commands` in the Python interpreter. 
`--help-commands` is a command-line argument to the setup.py script that you 
will write. It is not Python syntax. Please read the documentation.

   http://docs.python.org/3/distutils/index.html

-- 
Robert Kern

"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
  that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
  an underlying truth."
   -- Umberto Eco

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#67620

From"Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com>
Date2014-03-03 17:22 -0800
Message-ID<1279b5f0-aff5-429d-a8d0-a9d93cc48242@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#67597
On Monday, March 3, 2014 4:11:44 PM UTC-6, Robert Kern wrote:

>    http://docs.python.org/3/distutils/index.html

> Robert Kern

hi Robert,  I'm not whining --really-- but there is so dang much
doc out there on how to upload a package to PyPI with every tool
under the sun and all of them fancier than they need to be. So,
that you!  That doc file led me to another doc file that showed me
how to build the setup.py file line by line. 
The real trick is building the src tree (and there are more than several
ways to do that) and then matching the setup.py script to the src
tree:  then,
python3 setup.py register
python3 setup.py sdist upload
python3 setup.py upload

whew...  I never worked so hard to get one silly tarball on a repository
in my life ever...  very rewarding;  but, and I genuinely mean this, thank
you for pointing me in the correct direction, sir.

marcus

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