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Functions help

Started byScott W Dunning <swdunning@cox.net>
First post2014-02-22 22:43 -0700
Last post2014-02-24 02:32 -0800
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  Functions help Scott W Dunning <swdunning@cox.net> - 2014-02-22 22:43 -0700
    Re: Functions help Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-02-23 08:44 +0000
    Re: Functions help alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-02-24 10:55 +1000
      Re: Functions help Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-24 01:09 +0000
        Re: Functions help alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-02-24 11:39 +1000
          Re: Functions help Benjamin Kaplan <benjamin.kaplan@case.edu> - 2014-02-23 18:55 -0800
            Re: Functions help Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-02-24 15:38 +0000
          Re: Functions help Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-24 03:21 +0000
            Re: Functions help rurpy@yahoo.com - 2014-02-23 20:01 -0800
              Re: Functions help Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-24 13:59 +0000
              Re: Functions help Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-02-25 18:52 -0800
                Re: Functions help rurpy@yahoo.com - 2014-02-26 17:06 -0800
          Re: Functions help MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-02-24 03:36 +0000
        Re: Functions help Scott W Dunning <swdunning@cox.net> - 2014-02-23 18:43 -0700
        Re: Functions help Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-02-23 20:28 -0500
      Re: Functions help Travis Griggs <travisgriggs@gmail.com> - 2014-02-23 17:27 -0800
    Re: Functions help "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-02-24 01:01 +0000
      Re: Functions help Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-02-24 21:18 -0500
        Re: Functions help "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk> - 2014-02-27 22:49 +0000
    Re: Functions help Scott W Dunning <swdunning@cox.net> - 2014-02-23 18:24 -0700
    Re: Functions help sffjunkie@gmail.com - 2014-02-24 02:15 -0800
    Re: Functions help sffjunkie@gmail.com - 2014-02-24 02:32 -0800

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#66921 — Functions help

FromScott W Dunning <swdunning@cox.net>
Date2014-02-22 22:43 -0700
SubjectFunctions help
Message-ID<mailman.7276.1393141556.18130.python-list@python.org>
Hello,

I had a question regarding functions.  Is there a way to call a function multiple times without recalling it over and over.  Meaning is there a way I can call a function and then add *5 or something like that?

Thanks for any help!

Scott

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#66926

FromSteven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>
Date2014-02-23 08:44 +0000
Message-ID<5309b4e9$0$29985$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#66921
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:43:17 -0700, Scott W Dunning wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I had a question regarding functions.  Is there a way to call a function
> multiple times without recalling it over and over.  Meaning is there a
> way I can call a function and then add *5 or something like that?


Sorry, I don't really understand your question. Could you show an example 
of what you are doing?

Do you mean "add 5" or "*5"?  "Add *5 doesn't really mean anything to me.



-- 
Steven

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#66953

Fromalex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com>
Date2014-02-24 10:55 +1000
Message-ID<lee59o$t23$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#66921
On 23/02/2014 3:43 PM, Scott W Dunning wrote:
> I had a question regarding functions.  Is there a way to call a function multiple times without recalling it over and over.  Meaning is there a way I can call a function and then add *5 or something like that?

The same way you repeat anything in Python: with a loop construct.

     for _ in range(5):
	func()

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#66955

FromMark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2014-02-24 01:09 +0000
Message-ID<mailman.7297.1393204171.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#66953
On 24/02/2014 00:55, alex23 wrote:
> On 23/02/2014 3:43 PM, Scott W Dunning wrote:
>> I had a question regarding functions.  Is there a way to call a
>> function multiple times without recalling it over and over.  Meaning
>> is there a way I can call a function and then add *5 or something like
>> that?
>
> The same way you repeat anything in Python: with a loop construct.
>
>      for _ in range(5):
>      func()

For the benefit of newbies, besides the obvious indentation error above, 
the underscore basically acts as a dummy variable.  I'll let the 
language lawyers give a very detailed, precise description :)

-- 
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what you can do for our language.

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#66959

Fromalex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com>
Date2014-02-24 11:39 +1000
Message-ID<lee7s4$adc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#66955
On 24/02/2014 11:09 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 24/02/2014 00:55, alex23 wrote:
>>
>>      for _ in range(5):
>>      func()
>
> the obvious indentation error above

Stupid cut&paste :(

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#66964

FromBenjamin Kaplan <benjamin.kaplan@case.edu>
Date2014-02-23 18:55 -0800
Message-ID<mailman.7304.1393210932.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#66959
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:39 PM, alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 24/02/2014 11:09 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>
>> On 24/02/2014 00:55, alex23 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      for _ in range(5):
>>>      func()
>>
>>
>> the obvious indentation error above
>
>
> Stupid cut&paste :(
> --

Your message came through fine for me (viewing as mailing list in
gmail). Mark's client must be dropping spaces.

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#67355

FromGrant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2014-02-24 15:38 +0000
Message-ID<lefp13$2le$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#66964
On 2014-02-24, Benjamin Kaplan <benjamin.kaplan@case.edu> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:39 PM, alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 24/02/2014 11:09 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>>
>>> On 24/02/2014 00:55, alex23 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      for _ in range(5):
>>>>      func()
>>>
>>>
>>> the obvious indentation error above
>>
>>
>> Stupid cut&paste :(
>> --
>
> Your message came through fine for me (viewing as mailing list in
> gmail). Mark's client must be dropping spaces.

It was also fine here reading comp.lang.python using slrn.

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#66965

FromMark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2014-02-24 03:21 +0000
Message-ID<mailman.7305.1393212102.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#66959
On 24/02/2014 02:55, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:39 PM, alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 24/02/2014 11:09 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>>
>>> On 24/02/2014 00:55, alex23 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       for _ in range(5):
>>>>       func()
>>>
>>>
>>> the obvious indentation error above
>>
>>
>> Stupid cut&paste :(
>> --
>
> Your message came through fine for me (viewing as mailing list in
> gmail). Mark's client must be dropping spaces.
>

I'm reading gmane.comp.python.general using Thunderbird 24.3.0 on Windows 7.

-- 
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what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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#66968

Fromrurpy@yahoo.com
Date2014-02-23 20:01 -0800
Message-ID<65d950e1-6d37-4666-8488-c3d75120b1c1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#66965
On 02/23/2014 08:21 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 24/02/2014 02:55, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:39 PM, alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 24/02/2014 11:09 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>>> On 24/02/2014 00:55, alex23 wrote:
>>>>>       for _ in range(5):
>>>>>       func()
>>>> the obvious indentation error above
>>> 
>>> Stupid cut&paste :(
>>
>> Your message came through fine for me (viewing as mailing list in
>> gmail). Mark's client must be dropping spaces.
> 
> I'm reading gmane.comp.python.general using Thunderbird 24.3.0 on Windows 7.

The original message was properly indented on Google Groups.
Perhaps you should switch to GG or some non-broken client that
doesn't mangle whitespace.

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#66980

FromMark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2014-02-24 13:59 +0000
Message-ID<mailman.7308.1393250402.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#66968
On 24/02/2014 04:01, rurpy@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 02/23/2014 08:21 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>> On 24/02/2014 02:55, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
>>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:39 PM, alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 24/02/2014 11:09 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>>>> On 24/02/2014 00:55, alex23 wrote:
>>>>>>        for _ in range(5):
>>>>>>        func()
>>>>> the obvious indentation error above
>>>>
>>>> Stupid cut&paste :(
>>>
>>> Your message came through fine for me (viewing as mailing list in
>>> gmail). Mark's client must be dropping spaces.
>>
>> I'm reading gmane.comp.python.general using Thunderbird 24.3.0 on Windows 7.
>
> The original message was properly indented on Google Groups.
> Perhaps you should switch to GG or some non-broken client that
> doesn't mangle whitespace.
>

MRAB has confirmed that as always Thunderbird is working perfectly, 
thank you.  But you can stick with your bug ridden, badly flawed tool as 
long as you like, just expect me to keep complaining until google fixes 
it, or people stop using it, or people follow the instructions that were 
put up on a Python web site to prevent the bugs showing up.

-- 
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what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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#67084

FromEthan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us>
Date2014-02-25 18:52 -0800
Message-ID<mailman.7384.1393383169.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#66968
On 02/23/2014 08:01 PM, rurpy@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 02/23/2014 08:21 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>> On 24/02/2014 02:55, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
>>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:39 PM, alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 24/02/2014 11:09 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>>>> On 24/02/2014 00:55, alex23 wrote:
>>>>>>        for _ in range(5):
>>>>>>        func()
>>>>> the obvious indentation error above
>>>>
>>>> Stupid cut&paste :(
>>>
>>> Your message came through fine for me (viewing as mailing list in
>>> gmail). Mark's client must be dropping spaces.
>>
>> I'm reading gmane.comp.python.general using Thunderbird 24.3.0 on Windows 7.
>
> The original message was properly indented on Google Groups.
> Perhaps you should switch to GG or some non-broken client that
> doesn't mangle whitespace.

LOL!  How long have you waited to say that?  ;)

--
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#67108

Fromrurpy@yahoo.com
Date2014-02-26 17:06 -0800
Message-ID<a1928863-c950-4db9-be5d-9cf0c710d6b1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#67084
On 02/25/2014 07:52 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> On 02/23/2014 08:01 PM, rurpy@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On 02/23/2014 08:21 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>> On 24/02/2014 02:55, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:39 PM, alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 24/02/2014 11:09 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>>>>> On 24/02/2014 00:55, alex23 wrote:
>>>>>>>        for _ in range(5):
>>>>>>>        func()
>>>>>> the obvious indentation error above
>>>>>
>>>>> Stupid cut&paste :(
>>>>
>>>> Your message came through fine for me (viewing as mailing list in
>>>> gmail). Mark's client must be dropping spaces.
>>>
>>> I'm reading gmane.comp.python.general using Thunderbird 24.3.0 on Windows 7.
>>
>> The original message was properly indented on Google Groups.
>> Perhaps you should switch to GG or some non-broken client that
>> doesn't mangle whitespace.
> 
> LOL!  How long have you waited to say that?  ;)

A while.  It was worth the wait though. :-)

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#66967

FromMRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com>
Date2014-02-24 03:36 +0000
Message-ID<mailman.7306.1393213188.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#66959
On 2014-02-24 03:21, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 24/02/2014 02:55, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:39 PM, alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 24/02/2014 11:09 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 24/02/2014 00:55, alex23 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       for _ in range(5):
>>>>>       func()
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the obvious indentation error above
>>>
>>>
>>> Stupid cut&paste :(
>>> --
>>
>> Your message came through fine for me (viewing as mailing list in
>> gmail). Mark's client must be dropping spaces.
>>
>
> I'm reading gmane.comp.python.general using Thunderbird 24.3.0 on Windows 7.
>
It looked OK to me (also using Thunderbird).

However, examining the source, I can see that the first line is
indented with 5 spaces and the second line with 1 tab.

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#66962

FromScott W Dunning <swdunning@cox.net>
Date2014-02-23 18:43 -0700
Message-ID<mailman.7302.1393208427.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#66955
I understood what you meant because I looked up loops in the python documentation since we haven’t got there yet in school. 


On Feb 23, 2014, at 6:39 PM, alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 24/02/2014 11:09 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>> On 24/02/2014 00:55, alex23 wrote:
>>> 
>>>     for _ in range(5):
>>>     func()
>> 
>> the obvious indentation error above
> 
> Stupid cut&paste :(
> -- 
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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#67354

FromRoy Smith <roy@panix.com>
Date2014-02-23 20:28 -0500
Message-ID<roy-51F10B.20284923022014@news.panix.com>
In reply to#66955
In article <mailman.7297.1393204171.18130.python-list@python.org>,
 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 24/02/2014 00:55, alex23 wrote:
> > On 23/02/2014 3:43 PM, Scott W Dunning wrote:
> >> I had a question regarding functions.  Is there a way to call a
> >> function multiple times without recalling it over and over.  Meaning
> >> is there a way I can call a function and then add *5 or something like
> >> that?
> >
> > The same way you repeat anything in Python: with a loop construct.
> >
> >      for _ in range(5):
> >      func()
> 
> For the benefit of newbies, besides the obvious indentation error above, 
> the underscore basically acts as a dummy variable.  I'll let the 
> language lawyers give a very detailed, precise description :)

As far as I know, it's purely convention.  _ is a legal variable name in 
Python, and the convention is that unpacking something into _ means, "I 
don't care about that value".  It's also used to ignore several values:

   _, _, foo, bar, _ = blah

unpacks a 5-tuple, of which you only care about the 3rd and 4th values.

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#66958

FromTravis Griggs <travisgriggs@gmail.com>
Date2014-02-23 17:27 -0800
Message-ID<mailman.7300.1393205274.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#66953

> On Feb 23, 2014, at 17:09, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> For the benefit of newbies, besides the obvious indentation error above, the underscore basically acts as a dummy variable.  I'll let the language lawyers give a very detailed, precise description :)

You mean a dummy name binding, right? If we say "variable" we might confuse those newly arrived pilgrims from other language kingdom.



(If you squint hard, I think there's some <facetious> tags in there :) )

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#66954

From"Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk>
Date2014-02-24 01:01 +0000
Message-ID<op.xbrg4dgo5079vu@gnudebeest>
In reply to#66921
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 05:43:17 -0000, Scott W Dunning <swdunning@cox.net>  
wrote:

> I had a question regarding functions.  Is there a way to call a function  
> multiple times without recalling it over and over.  Meaning is there a  
> way I can call a function and then add *5 or something like that?

The usual way to call a function several times is to use a loop, like this:

   for i in range(5):
       my_function()

The function "range" returns the sequence of numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 [*],  
so this has the same effect as if you had typed:

   my_function()
   my_function()
   my_function()
   my_function()
   my_function()

This isn't a great advantage if you just want to call the function two or  
three times, but when you want to call it two or three hundred times it  
matters a lot more!  You can still use the same technique if you want to  
pass different parameters to the function each time you call it:

   for i in range(6):
       print(i*i)

   for day in ("Mon", "Tue", "Wed", "Thu", "Fri"):
       do_stuff_for_day(day)

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#67013

FromDennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com>
Date2014-02-24 21:18 -0500
Message-ID<mailman.7335.1393294805.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#66954
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 01:01:15 -0000, "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk>
declaimed the following:


>
>The function "range" returns the sequence of numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 [*],  
>so this has the same effect as if you had typed:
>
	Wrong -- it returns the sequence 0, 1, 2, 3, 4...

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#67174

From"Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk>
Date2014-02-27 22:49 +0000
Message-ID<op.xbypoeec5079vu@gnudebeest>
In reply to#67013
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 02:18:43 -0000, Dennis Lee Bieber  
<wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 01:01:15 -0000, "Rhodri James"  
> <rhodri@wildebst.org.uk>
> declaimed the following:
>
>
>>
>> The function "range" returns the sequence of numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5  
>> [*],
>> so this has the same effect as if you had typed:
>>
> 	Wrong -- it returns the sequence 0, 1, 2, 3, 4...

Duh, yes.  I do know better than that...

-- 
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#66957

FromScott W Dunning <swdunning@cox.net>
Date2014-02-23 18:24 -0700
Message-ID<mailman.7299.1393205088.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#66921

[Multipart message — attachments visible in raw view] — view raw

On Feb 23, 2014, at 1:44 AM, Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I don't really understand your question. Could you show an example 
> of what you are doing?
> 
> Do you mean "add 5" or "*5"?  "Add *5 doesn't really mean anything to me.
Sorry I forgot to add the code that I had to give an example of what I was talking about.  I’ll put it below, sorry that it’s so long.  A couple of people have basically answered my question though.  I take it was I was talking about was a loop, which I haven’t learned in school yet but, it seems semi self-explanatory.   As you can see I added a loop in there about half way down the code (i put it in bold) and it seemed to do what I want.  Now I’m going to try and do what Rhodri suggested, a range function?  I’m not sure exactly what that’ll do but I think it’ll clean up my code more and make things easier to call?  

from turtle import *
from math import sin, sqrt, radians

def star(width):
    R = (width)/(2*sin(radians(72)))
    A = (2*width)/(3+sqrt(5))
    penup()
    left(18)
    penup()
    forward(R)
    pendown()    
    left(162)
    forward(A)
    right(72)
    forward(A)
    left(144)
    forward(A)
    right(72)
    forward(A)
    left(144)
    forward(A)
    right(72)
    forward(A)
    left(144)
    forward(A)
    right(72)
    forward(A)
    left(144)
    forward(A)
    right(72)
    forward(A)
    penup()
    left(162)
    forward(R)
    left(162)
   
showturtle()

def fillstar(color):
    fillcolor(color)
    begin_fill()
    star(25)
    end_fill()
    
red = "red"
fillstar(red)

def space(width):
    penup()
    forward(2*width)
    pendown()

space(25)

fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)

def row(width):
    penup()
    right(90)
    forward(width)
    right(90)
    forward(11*width)
    right(180)
    pendown()
row(25)

for i in range (5):
    fillstar(red)
    space(25)

row(25)

fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)

row(25)

fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)

row(25)

fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)

row(25)

fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)

row(25)

fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)

row(25)

fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)

row(25)

fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
fillstar(red)
space(25)
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