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Python installation in windows

Started bynavneet bhatele <navbhatele@gmail.com>
First post2016-01-09 23:25 +0530
Last post2016-01-12 10:42 -0600
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  Python installation in windows navneet bhatele <navbhatele@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 23:25 +0530
    Re: Python installation in windows Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 07:19 -0800
      Re: Python installation in windows Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2016-01-12 07:16 +1100
      Re: Python installation in windows Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 15:15 +0000
      Re: Python installation in windows eryk sun <eryksun@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 10:42 -0600

#101478 — Python installation in windows

Fromnavneet bhatele <navbhatele@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-09 23:25 +0530
SubjectPython installation in windows
Message-ID<mailman.11.1452517320.13488.python-list@python.org>
I have been trying to install the  "python-3.5.1-amd64-webinstall "  many
times and the Set up failed is shown up with named 0*80070002 - file
doesn't exist in dialog box

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#101484

FromRustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-11 07:19 -0800
Message-ID<3d609795-016b-477c-be2c-8b37194df0ac@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#101478
On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 6:32:14 PM UTC+5:30, navneet bhatele wrote:
> I have been trying to install the  "python-3.5.1-amd64-webinstall "  many
> times and the Set up failed is shown up with named 0*80070002 - file
> doesn't exist in dialog box

Which windows?
XP and 3.5 are not compatible
For XP use 3.4

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#101486

FromCameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au>
Date2016-01-12 07:16 +1100
Message-ID<mailman.17.1452543409.13488.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#101484
On 11Jan2016 07:19, rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 6:32:14 PM UTC+5:30, navneet bhatele wrote:
>> I have been trying to install the  "python-3.5.1-amd64-webinstall "  many
>> times and the Set up failed is shown up with named 0*80070002 - file
>> doesn't exist in dialog box
>
>Which windows?
>XP and 3.5 are not compatible
>For XP use 3.4

I am not a Windows user, but this question occurs a lot.

Is this cryptic message a missing dependency of the installer or of Python.  
Because if it is Python surely we should be doing potential users a favour and 
mentioning this 3.5 vs XP (and earlier?) issue in nice human friendly prose 
instead of complaining about an obscure missing library file?

As things stand, many users infer that they have a corrupt or broken download, 
not that they needed a different version of Python.

Should this be raised on python-dev?

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au>

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#101547

FromOscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-12 15:15 +0000
Message-ID<mailman.65.1452611767.13488.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#101484
On 11 January 2016 at 20:16, Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> wrote:
> On 11Jan2016 07:19, rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 6:32:14 PM UTC+5:30, navneet bhatele wrote:
>>>
>>> I have been trying to install the  "python-3.5.1-amd64-webinstall "  many
>>> times and the Set up failed is shown up with named 0*80070002 - file
>>> doesn't exist in dialog box
>>
>>
>> Which windows?
>> XP and 3.5 are not compatible
>> For XP use 3.4
>
>
> I am not a Windows user, but this question occurs a lot.
>
> Is this cryptic message a missing dependency of the installer or of Python.
> Because if it is Python surely we should be doing potential users a favour
> and mentioning this 3.5 vs XP (and earlier?) issue in nice human friendly
> prose instead of complaining about an obscure missing library file?
>
> As things stand, many users infer that they have a corrupt or broken
> download, not that they needed a different version of Python.

I think there are several different issues to do with Python 3.5 and Windows.

Firstly support for Windows XP was dropped and 3.5 was made in a way
that is incompatible with XP. However initially neither the download
page nor the installer were warning XP users leading to a lot of
confusion. I thought this was suppose to have been fixed in 3.5.1
though so the installer should now warn that it won't work on XP.

Secondly the Windows builds of 3.5 are now compiled using VS2015 and I
believe the installer itself has had something of an overhaul. This
seems to have caused a number of different problems. One problem is
that the newer VS2015 runtime requires the installation of some dll
from Microsoft. So some users are getting error messages about a
missing dll.

The error message quoted above is something else though. I can't tell
but it seems as if there are a number of distinct issues caused by the
significant changes to Python 3.5 on Windows.

> Should this be raised on python-dev?

Probably better to go for bugs.python.org. There's a few 3.5/Windows
issues already there. Not sure if this one's already listed.

--
Oscar

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#101550

Fromeryk sun <eryksun@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-12 10:42 -0600
Message-ID<mailman.69.1452616967.13488.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#101484
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Oscar Benjamin
<oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I thought this was suppose to have been fixed in 3.5.1 though so the installer
> should now warn that it won't work on XP.

The CRT update also requires service pack 1 on Windows 7 and service
pack 2 on Vista. 3.5.1's installer was updated to check for a
supported operating system. On an XP system the error message should
be "Windows Vista SP2 or later is required to continue installation".

> I believe the installer itself has had something of an overhaul.

It was rewritten completely.

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