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| Started by | Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> |
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| First post | 2011-03-30 13:25 -0700 |
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FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> - 2011-03-30 13:25 -0700
Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery Fons Adriaensen <fons@linuxaudio.org> - 2011-03-30 20:56 +0000
Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery harrismh777 <harrismh777@charter.net> - 2011-03-30 17:11 -0500
Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery David Bernier <david250@videotron.ca> - 2011-03-30 21:22 -0400
Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery "Stretto" <Stretto@Nowhere.com> - 2011-03-30 21:18 -0500
Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery Graham Cooper <grahamcooper7@gmail.com> - 2011-03-30 19:17 -0700
Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery David Bernier <david250@videotron.ca> - 2011-03-31 00:49 -0400
Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> - 2011-03-31 12:15 -0700
Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery haha doh <rellikmaet@gmail.com> - 2011-03-31 21:07 -0700
Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery David Bernier <david250@videotron.ca> - 2011-04-01 10:54 -0400
Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-02 06:33 -0700
Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery David Bernier <david250@videotron.ca> - 2011-04-02 10:45 -0400
Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-02 19:19 -0700
Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery "Stretto" <Stretto@Nowhere.com> - 2011-04-02 23:46 -0500
Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery xDog Walker <thudfoo@gmail.com> - 2011-03-30 14:18 -0700
| From | Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2011-03-30 13:25 -0700 |
| Subject | FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery |
| Message-ID | <c37e8e0b-a825-4ac5-9886-8828ab1faf94@x8g2000prh.googlegroups.com> |
FBI cryptanalysis hasn’t decrypted notes from 1999 murder mystery http://tinyurl.com/4d56zsz The FBI is seeking the public's help in breaking the encrypted code found in two notes discovered on the body of a murdered man in 1999. The FBI says that officers in St. Louis, Missouri discovered the body of 41-year-old Ricky McCormick on June 30, 1999 in a field and the clues regarding the homicide were two encrypted notes found in the victim's pants pockets. The FBI says that despite extensive work by its Cryptanalysis and Racketeering Records Unit (CRRU), and the American Cryptogram Association, the meanings of those two coded notes remain a mystery and McCormick's murderer has never been found. One has to wonder though, if the FBI can't figure this out, who can? But I digress. From the FBI: "The more than 30 lines of coded material use a maddening variety of letters, numbers, dashes, and parentheses. McCormick was a high school dropout, but he was able to read and write and was said to be 'street smart.' According to members of his family, McCormick had used such encrypted notes since he was a boy, but apparently no one in his family knows how to decipher the codes, and it's unknown whether anyone besides McCormick could translate his secret language. Investigators believe the notes in McCormick's pockets were written up to three days before his death." "Standard routes of cryptanalysis seem to have hit brick walls," said CRRU chief Dan Olson in a statement. To move the case forward, examiners need another sample of McCormick's coded system-or a similar one-that might offer context to the mystery notes or allow valuable comparisons to be made. Or, short of new evidence, Olson said, "Maybe someone with a fresh set of eyes might come up with a brilliant new idea." The FBI says it has always relied on public tips and other assistance to solve crimes though breaking a code may represent a special circumstance. For larger images of the notes go here. [LINK] If you have an idea how to break the code, have seen similar codes, or have any information about the Ricky McCormick case, write to CRRU at the following address: FBI Laboratory Cryptanalysis and Racketeering Records Unit 2501 Investigation Parkway Quantico, VA 22135 Attn: Ricky McCormick Case There is no reward being offered, just the knowledge that you may be solving an intriguing murder mystery, the FBI stated.
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| From | Fons Adriaensen <fons@linuxaudio.org> |
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| Date | 2011-03-30 20:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.21.1301518591.2990.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #2246 |
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 01:25:54PM -0700, Joe Snodgrass wrote: > For larger images of the notes go here. [LINK] [LINK] ??? -- FA
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| From | harrismh777 <harrismh777@charter.net> |
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| Date | 2011-03-30 17:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <LUNkp.1319$J36.1056@newsfe08.iad> |
| In reply to | #2247 |
Fons Adriaensen wrote: > [LINK] ??? http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=10823
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| From | David Bernier <david250@videotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2011-03-30 21:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <in0l2706q2@news5.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #2246 |
Joe Snodgrass wrote: > > FBI cryptanalysis hasn’t decrypted notes from 1999 murder mystery > > http://tinyurl.com/4d56zsz > > The FBI is seeking the public's help in breaking the encrypted code > found in two notes discovered on the body of a murdered man in 1999. > > The FBI says that officers in St. Louis, Missouri discovered the body > of 41-year-old Ricky McCormick on June 30, 1999 in a field and the > clues regarding the homicide were two encrypted notes found in the > victim's pants pockets. > > The FBI says that despite extensive work by its Cryptanalysis and > Racketeering Records Unit (CRRU), and the American Cryptogram > Association, the meanings of those two coded notes remain a mystery > and McCormick's murderer has never been found. One has to wonder > though, if the FBI can't figure this out, who can? But I digress. > > From the FBI: "The more than 30 lines of coded material use a > maddening variety of letters, numbers, dashes, and parentheses. > McCormick was a high school dropout, but he was able to read and write > and was said to be 'street smart.' According to members of his family, > McCormick had used such encrypted notes since he was a boy, but > apparently no one in his family knows how to decipher the codes, and > it's unknown whether anyone besides McCormick could translate his > secret language. Investigators believe the notes in McCormick's > pockets were written up to three days before his death." > > "Standard routes of cryptanalysis seem to have hit brick walls," said > CRRU chief Dan Olson in a statement. To move the case forward, > examiners need another sample of McCormick's coded system-or a similar > one-that might offer context to the mystery notes or allow valuable > comparisons to be made. Or, short of new evidence, Olson said, "Maybe > someone with a fresh set of eyes might come up with a brilliant new > idea." > > The FBI says it has always relied on public tips and other assistance > to solve crimes though breaking a code may represent a special > circumstance. [...] There are two JPG images (note1.jpg and note2.jpg) at the web page: < http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/march > . As they say there: " View larger versions (right click and save the files to enlarge further)." i.e. : Right click on first image and "Save image as ..." using the browser, "" "" on second image and "Save image as ..." using the browser. I used the GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program) to enlarge and otherwise manipulate the images. But each is only about 50 to 80 kilobytes ...
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| From | "Stretto" <Stretto@Nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2011-03-30 21:18 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <in0nhr$e6j$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #2246 |
"Joe Snodgrass" <joe.snod@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c37e8e0b-a825-4ac5-9886-8828ab1faf94@x8g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > > FBI cryptanalysis hasn’t decrypted notes from 1999 murder mystery > > http://tinyurl.com/4d56zsz > > The FBI is seeking the public's help in breaking the encrypted code > found in two notes discovered on the body of a murdered man in 1999. > > The FBI says that officers in St. Louis, Missouri discovered the body > of 41-year-old Ricky McCormick on June 30, 1999 in a field and the > clues regarding the homicide were two encrypted notes found in the > victim's pants pockets. > > The FBI says that despite extensive work by its Cryptanalysis and > Racketeering Records Unit (CRRU), and the American Cryptogram > Association, the meanings of those two coded notes remain a mystery > and McCormick's murderer has never been found. One has to wonder > though, if the FBI can't figure this out, who can? But I digress. > > From the FBI: "The more than 30 lines of coded material use a > maddening variety of letters, numbers, dashes, and parentheses. > McCormick was a high school dropout, but he was able to read and write > and was said to be 'street smart.' According to members of his family, > McCormick had used such encrypted notes since he was a boy, but > apparently no one in his family knows how to decipher the codes, and > it's unknown whether anyone besides McCormick could translate his > secret language. Investigators believe the notes in McCormick's > pockets were written up to three days before his death." > > "Standard routes of cryptanalysis seem to have hit brick walls," said > CRRU chief Dan Olson in a statement. To move the case forward, > examiners need another sample of McCormick's coded system-or a similar > one-that might offer context to the mystery notes or allow valuable > comparisons to be made. Or, short of new evidence, Olson said, "Maybe > someone with a fresh set of eyes might come up with a brilliant new > idea." > > The FBI says it has always relied on public tips and other assistance > to solve crimes though breaking a code may represent a special > circumstance. > > For larger images of the notes go here. [LINK] > > If you have an idea how to break the code, have seen similar codes, or > have any information about the Ricky McCormick case, write to CRRU at > the following address: > > FBI Laboratory > Cryptanalysis and Racketeering Records Unit > 2501 Investigation Parkway > Quantico, VA 22135 > Attn: Ricky McCormick Case > > There is no reward being offered, just the knowledge that you may be > solving an intriguing murder mystery, the FBI stated. No other information about the guy? It might help. If the note is of any use then people and places would be in it. If that is the case then it would help to know where he lived and some of the names of people he knows. The note seems like it may not be just encrypted but a sort of compression(or rather shorthand/jargon) was used. Was the guy a drug dealer? It could be a list of "clients" or information about where he sold drugs(the numbers look like street addresses or amounts. If these kinda notes were so common from this guy then surely the FBI should have many more? Seems like the FBI could do more if they wanted it really solved...
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| From | Graham Cooper <grahamcooper7@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-03-30 19:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fe12a3ce-f897-47c7-a935-504a44bc4386@f31g2000pri.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2262 |
On Mar 31, 12:18 pm, "Stretto" <Stre...@Nowhere.com> wrote: > "Joe Snodgrass" <joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:c37e8e0b-a825-4ac5-9886-8828ab1faf94@x8g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > FBI cryptanalysis hasn’t decrypted notes from 1999 murder mystery > > >http://tinyurl.com/4d56zsz > > > The FBI is seeking the public's help in breaking the encrypted code > > found in two notes discovered on the body of a murdered man in 1999. > > > The FBI says that officers in St. Louis, Missouri discovered the body > > of 41-year-old Ricky McCormick on June 30, 1999 in a field and the > > clues regarding the homicide were two encrypted notes found in the > > victim's pants pockets. > > > The FBI says that despite extensive work by its Cryptanalysis and > > Racketeering Records Unit (CRRU), and the American Cryptogram > > Association, the meanings of those two coded notes remain a mystery > > and McCormick's murderer has never been found. One has to wonder > > though, if the FBI can't figure this out, who can? But I digress. > > > From the FBI: "The more than 30 lines of coded material use a > > maddening variety of letters, numbers, dashes, and parentheses. > > McCormick was a high school dropout, but he was able to read and write > > and was said to be 'street smart.' According to members of his family, > > McCormick had used such encrypted notes since he was a boy, but > > apparently no one in his family knows how to decipher the codes, and > > it's unknown whether anyone besides McCormick could translate his > > secret language. Investigators believe the notes in McCormick's > > pockets were written up to three days before his death." > > > "Standard routes of cryptanalysis seem to have hit brick walls," said > > CRRU chief Dan Olson in a statement. To move the case forward, > > examiners need another sample of McCormick's coded system-or a similar > > one-that might offer context to the mystery notes or allow valuable > > comparisons to be made. Or, short of new evidence, Olson said, "Maybe > > someone with a fresh set of eyes might come up with a brilliant new > > idea." > > > The FBI says it has always relied on public tips and other assistance > > to solve crimes though breaking a code may represent a special > > circumstance. > > > For larger images of the notes go here. [LINK] > > > If you have an idea how to break the code, have seen similar codes, or > > have any information about the Ricky McCormick case, write to CRRU at > > the following address: > > > FBI Laboratory > > Cryptanalysis and Racketeering Records Unit > > 2501 Investigation Parkway > > Quantico, VA 22135 > > Attn: Ricky McCormick Case > > > There is no reward being offered, just the knowledge that you may be > > solving an intriguing murder mystery, the FBI stated. > > No other information about the guy? It might help. If the note is of any use > then people and places would be in it. If that is the case then it would > help to know where he lived and some of the names of people he knows. > > The note seems like it may not be just encrypted but a sort of > compression(or rather shorthand/jargon) was used. Was the guy a drug dealer? > It could be a list of "clients" or information about where he sold drugs(the > numbers look like street addresses or amounts. > > If these kinda notes were so common from this guy then surely the FBI should > have many more? > > Seems like the FBI could do more if they wanted it really solved.. I can use my psychic powers to solve the crime! I did a test on the Australian Channel 9 News website a few months ago... Given a sequence of photos tell who is a notorious criminal and who is a professional surfer! I got every one right! My psychic channels were spot on, e.g. "had a big magazine following" -> SURFER G. Adam
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| From | David Bernier <david250@videotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2011-03-31 00:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <in11700iva@news5.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #2262 |
Stretto wrote: > > > "Joe Snodgrass" <joe.snod@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:c37e8e0b-a825-4ac5-9886-8828ab1faf94@x8g2000prh.googlegroups.com... >> >> FBI cryptanalysis hasn’t decrypted notes from 1999 murder mystery >> >> http://tinyurl.com/4d56zsz >> >> The FBI is seeking the public's help in breaking the encrypted code >> found in two notes discovered on the body of a murdered man in 1999. >> >> The FBI says that officers in St. Louis, Missouri discovered the body >> of 41-year-old Ricky McCormick on June 30, 1999 in a field and the >> clues regarding the homicide were two encrypted notes found in the >> victim's pants pockets. >> >> The FBI says that despite extensive work by its Cryptanalysis and >> Racketeering Records Unit (CRRU), and the American Cryptogram >> Association, the meanings of those two coded notes remain a mystery >> and McCormick's murderer has never been found. One has to wonder >> though, if the FBI can't figure this out, who can? But I digress. >> >> From the FBI: "The more than 30 lines of coded material use a >> maddening variety of letters, numbers, dashes, and parentheses. >> McCormick was a high school dropout, but he was able to read and write >> and was said to be 'street smart.' According to members of his family, >> McCormick had used such encrypted notes since he was a boy, but >> apparently no one in his family knows how to decipher the codes, and >> it's unknown whether anyone besides McCormick could translate his >> secret language. Investigators believe the notes in McCormick's >> pockets were written up to three days before his death." >> >> "Standard routes of cryptanalysis seem to have hit brick walls," said >> CRRU chief Dan Olson in a statement. To move the case forward, >> examiners need another sample of McCormick's coded system-or a similar >> one-that might offer context to the mystery notes or allow valuable >> comparisons to be made. Or, short of new evidence, Olson said, "Maybe >> someone with a fresh set of eyes might come up with a brilliant new >> idea." >> >> The FBI says it has always relied on public tips and other assistance >> to solve crimes though breaking a code may represent a special >> circumstance. >> >> For larger images of the notes go here. [LINK] >> >> If you have an idea how to break the code, have seen similar codes, or >> have any information about the Ricky McCormick case, write to CRRU at >> the following address: >> >> FBI Laboratory >> Cryptanalysis and Racketeering Records Unit >> 2501 Investigation Parkway >> Quantico, VA 22135 >> Attn: Ricky McCormick Case >> >> There is no reward being offered, just the knowledge that you may be >> solving an intriguing murder mystery, the FBI stated. > > No other information about the guy? It might help. If the note is of any > use then people and places would be in it. If that is the case then it > would help to know where he lived and some of the names of people he knows. > > The note seems like it may not be just encrypted but a sort of > compression(or rather shorthand/jargon) was used. Was the guy a drug > dealer? It could be a list of "clients" or information about where he > sold drugs(the numbers look like street addresses or amounts. > > If these kinda notes were so common from this guy then surely the FBI > should have many more? > > Seems like the FBI could do more if they wanted it really solved... First of all, out of respect for the deceased, Ricky McCormick and in keeping with a spirit of fairness, I must say that what follows may be pure coincidence, perhaps a 10% chance of mistaken identity and a 90% chance of not-mistaken identity. Background on a Joplin, Missouri 1982 killing/murder the person killed: Darrell Ruestman the killer: Alan J. Bannister The prosecution's theory was that AJ Bannister murdered Darrell Ruestman. This led to AJ Bannister's murder conviction, which was upheld on appeal. But see this if you wish for another theory: < http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/sr214/usletter.htm > . In any case, Darrell Ruestman was killed in 1982. From the case: BANNISTER v. DELO, < http://mo.findacase.com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.%2FFDCT%2FWMO%2F1995%2F19950915_0000019.WMO.htm/qx > This court opinion mentions three affidavits: 1. Wooten Affidavit 2. Taylor Affidavit 3. Trombley Affidavit (writer and film maker) In the Trombley Affidavit, one finds: "Finally, Trombley's statement about what Bannister says happened directly contradicts the testimony of Linda McCormick, Ruestman's girlfriend, who was in the trailer at the time of the murder and testified that she heard no conversations before hearing the shot. See Tr. III at 49, 65. " and also: "For instance, Trombley links McCormick to Wooten and Wooten to Ruestman's murder (thereby conflicting with Wooten's affidavit). However, Trombley also connects Wooten and Bannister. See affidavit at 9. These facts could support the State's theory that Wooten, acting as a middleman for McCormick, hired Bannister to murder Ruestman just as easily as they support Trombley's accidental shooting theory." From another web page: "On August 20, 1982, Darrell Ruestman was living in a Joplin trailer park with Linda McCormick, then married to Richard McCormick. " So, Richard McCormick was married to Linda McCormick, but it appears they were separated: " When Bannister expressed interest, Wooten explained that a man whose wife left him for another man wanted to have the latter killed." --> < http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/US/bannister418.htm > (site sympathetic to alternate theory: AJ Bannister did not commit pre-meditated murder of Ruestman). === Out of all this, one Richard McCormick was married but separated from his wife Linda McCormick, in 1982. That year, Linda McCormick was living in a trailer park in Joplin, Missouri, about 250 miles from St. Louis, Missouri. Linda McCormick is known to have associated with drug dealers at that time. Missouri population: 5,987,580 - Jul 2009. In 1982, the person murdered in 1999, Ricky McCormick, would have been 24 years old. Either Ricky McCormick and Richard McCormick are related, or else they aren't related.
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| From | Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2011-03-31 12:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d9eb4961-ca5d-43ef-ade9-b35e207c04bf@k38g2000vbn.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2262 |
On Mar 30, 10:18 pm, "Stretto" <Stre...@Nowhere.com> wrote: > "Joe Snodgrass" <joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:c37e8e0b-a825-4ac5-9886-8828ab1faf94@x8g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > FBI cryptanalysis hasn’t decrypted notes from 1999 murder mystery > > >http://tinyurl.com/4d56zsz > > > The FBI is seeking the public's help in breaking the encrypted code > > found in two notes discovered on the body of a murdered man in 1999. > > > The FBI says that officers in St. Louis, Missouri discovered the body > > of 41-year-old Ricky McCormick on June 30, 1999 in a field and the > > clues regarding the homicide were two encrypted notes found in the > > victim's pants pockets. > > > The FBI says that despite extensive work by its Cryptanalysis and > > Racketeering Records Unit (CRRU), and the American Cryptogram > > Association, the meanings of those two coded notes remain a mystery > > and McCormick's murderer has never been found. One has to wonder > > though, if the FBI can't figure this out, who can? But I digress. > > > From the FBI: "The more than 30 lines of coded material use a > > maddening variety of letters, numbers, dashes, and parentheses. > > McCormick was a high school dropout, but he was able to read and write > > and was said to be 'street smart.' According to members of his family, > > McCormick had used such encrypted notes since he was a boy, but > > apparently no one in his family knows how to decipher the codes, and > > it's unknown whether anyone besides McCormick could translate his > > secret language. Investigators believe the notes in McCormick's > > pockets were written up to three days before his death." > > > "Standard routes of cryptanalysis seem to have hit brick walls," said > > CRRU chief Dan Olson in a statement. To move the case forward, > > examiners need another sample of McCormick's coded system-or a similar > > one-that might offer context to the mystery notes or allow valuable > > comparisons to be made. Or, short of new evidence, Olson said, "Maybe > > someone with a fresh set of eyes might come up with a brilliant new > > idea." > > > The FBI says it has always relied on public tips and other assistance > > to solve crimes though breaking a code may represent a special > > circumstance. > > > For larger images of the notes go here. [LINK] > > > If you have an idea how to break the code, have seen similar codes, or > > have any information about the Ricky McCormick case, write to CRRU at > > the following address: > > > FBI Laboratory > > Cryptanalysis and Racketeering Records Unit > > 2501 Investigation Parkway > > Quantico, VA 22135 > > Attn: Ricky McCormick Case > > > There is no reward being offered, just the knowledge that you may be > > solving an intriguing murder mystery, the FBI stated. > > No other information about the guy? It might help. If the note is of any use > then people and places would be in it. If that is the case then it would > help to know where he lived and some of the names of people he knows. > > The note seems like it may not be just encrypted but a sort of > compression(or rather shorthand/jargon) was used. Was the guy a drug dealer? > It could be a list of "clients" or information about where he sold drugs(the > numbers look like street addresses or amounts. > > If these kinda notes were so common from this guy then surely the FBI should > have many more? > > Seems like the FBI could do more if they wanted it really solved... As to which crime was being committed, I'm going with numbers running or loan sharking. There's no reason for any crook to keep any record of any other crime, except prostitution, where phone books come in handy. Thievery is not an honest business, and records of what went down, where and with whom can only hurt you. Unless of course, it's a grand list of felonies that he was using to blackmail the participants. But I can't see gathering that much info from blackmail. I always thought it involved one guy blackmailing one victim. This would imply a factory scale process, and he'd need some way to lure his prey into the trap. Of course, that WOULD be a good way to get murdered.
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| From | haha doh <rellikmaet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-03-31 21:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <dc2dfaff-6a2f-4151-894b-236eddd2d4c8@p13g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2297 |
On Mar 31, 3:15 pm, Joe Snodgrass <joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Mar 30, 10:18 pm, "Stretto" <Stre...@Nowhere.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "Joe Snodgrass" <joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >news:c37e8e0b-a825-4ac5-9886-8828ab1faf94@x8g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > > > > FBI cryptanalysis hasn’t decrypted notes from 1999 murder mystery > > > >http://tinyurl.com/4d56zsz > > > > The FBI is seeking the public's help in breaking the encrypted code > > > found in two notes discovered on the body of a murdered man in 1999. > > > > The FBI says that officers in St. Louis, Missouri discovered the body > > > of 41-year-old Ricky McCormick on June 30, 1999 in a field and the > > > clues regarding the homicide were two encrypted notes found in the > > > victim's pants pockets. > > > > The FBI says that despite extensive work by its Cryptanalysis and > > > Racketeering Records Unit (CRRU), and the American Cryptogram > > > Association, the meanings of those two coded notes remain a mystery > > > and McCormick's murderer has never been found. One has to wonder > > > though, if the FBI can't figure this out, who can? But I digress. > > > > From the FBI: "The more than 30 lines of coded material use a > > > maddening variety of letters, numbers, dashes, and parentheses. > > > McCormick was a high school dropout, but he was able to read and write > > > and was said to be 'street smart.' According to members of his family, > > > McCormick had used such encrypted notes since he was a boy, but > > > apparently no one in his family knows how to decipher the codes, and > > > it's unknown whether anyone besides McCormick could translate his > > > secret language. Investigators believe the notes in McCormick's > > > pockets were written up to three days before his death." > > > > "Standard routes of cryptanalysis seem to have hit brick walls," said > > > CRRU chief Dan Olson in a statement. To move the case forward, > > > examiners need another sample of McCormick's coded system-or a similar > > > one-that might offer context to the mystery notes or allow valuable > > > comparisons to be made. Or, short of new evidence, Olson said, "Maybe > > > someone with a fresh set of eyes might come up with a brilliant new > > > idea." > > > > The FBI says it has always relied on public tips and other assistance > > > to solve crimes though breaking a code may represent a special > > > circumstance. > > > > For larger images of the notes go here. [LINK] > > > > If you have an idea how to break the code, have seen similar codes, or > > > have any information about the Ricky McCormick case, write to CRRU at > > > the following address: > > > > FBI Laboratory > > > Cryptanalysis and Racketeering Records Unit > > > 2501 Investigation Parkway > > > Quantico, VA 22135 > > > Attn: Ricky McCormick Case > > > > There is no reward being offered, just the knowledge that you may be > > > solving an intriguing murder mystery, the FBI stated. > > > No other information about the guy? It might help. If the note is of any use > > then people and places would be in it. If that is the case then it would > > help to know where he lived and some of the names of people he knows. > > > The note seems like it may not be just encrypted but a sort of > > compression(or rather shorthand/jargon) was used. Was the guy a drug dealer? > > It could be a list of "clients" or information about where he sold drugs(the > > numbers look like street addresses or amounts. > > > If these kinda notes were so common from this guy then surely the FBI should > > have many more? > > > Seems like the FBI could do more if they wanted it really solved... > > As to which crime was being committed, I'm going with numbers running > or loan sharking. There's no reason for any crook to keep any record > of any other crime, except prostitution, where phone books come in > handy. > > Thievery is not an honest business, and records of what went down, > where and with whom can only hurt you. Unless of course, it's a grand > list of felonies that he was using to blackmail the participants. > > But I can't see gathering that much info from blackmail. I always > thought it involved one guy blackmailing one victim. This would imply > a factory scale process, and he'd need some way to lure his prey into > the trap. > > Of course, that WOULD be a good way to get murdered. This is him http://img851.imageshack.us/i/4d93ac54b10bcimage.jpg/
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| From | David Bernier <david250@videotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2011-04-01 10:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <in4p0m02h1a@news3.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #2332 |
haha doh wrote: > On Mar 31, 3:15 pm, Joe Snodgrass<joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote: [...] >> As to which crime was being committed, I'm going with numbers running >> or loan sharking. There's no reason for any crook to keep any record >> of any other crime, except prostitution, where phone books come in >> handy. >> >> Thievery is not an honest business, and records of what went down, >> where and with whom can only hurt you. Unless of course, it's a grand >> list of felonies that he was using to blackmail the participants. >> >> But I can't see gathering that much info from blackmail. I always >> thought it involved one guy blackmailing one victim. This would imply >> a factory scale process, and he'd need some way to lure his prey into >> the trap. >> >> Of course, that WOULD be a good way to get murdered. > This is him > http://img851.imageshack.us/i/4d93ac54b10bcimage.jpg/ True indeed! , according to a story posted on March 30 on the website of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch: < http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/ad567e00-5b13-11e0-8ed4-00127992bc8b.html> . That web page has a link to a 1999 article on the discovery of the body: < http://www.stltoday.com/news/article_bcc02074-5b1a-11e0-b199-0017a4a78c22.html > . An officer with the local Major Case Squad unit is quoted there. I quote from the 1999 story: << "We cannot find any motive for his death, " he said. "We're not absolutely sure that this is a homicide." >> . David Bernier
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| From | Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-02 06:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ee876fe7-8d07-4931-8a37-ff37f9f98e09@m13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2359 |
On Apr 1, 10:54 am, David Bernier <david...@videotron.ca> wrote: > haha doh wrote: > > On Mar 31, 3:15 pm, Joe Snodgrass<joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > [...] > > > > >> As to which crime was being committed, I'm going with numbers running > >> or loan sharking. There's no reason for any crook to keep any record > >> of any other crime, except prostitution, where phone books come in > >> handy. > > >> Thievery is not an honest business, and records of what went down, > >> where and with whom can only hurt you. Unless of course, it's a grand > >> list of felonies that he was using to blackmail the participants. > > >> But I can't see gathering that much info from blackmail. I always > >> thought it involved one guy blackmailing one victim. This would imply > >> a factory scale process, and he'd need some way to lure his prey into > >> the trap. > > >> Of course, that WOULD be a good way to get murdered. > > This is him > >http://img851.imageshack.us/i/4d93ac54b10bcimage.jpg/ > > True indeed! , according to a story posted on March 30 on the > website of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch: > <http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/ad567e00-5b13-11e0-8ed4-0012...> > . > > That web page has a link to a 1999 article on the discovery of the body: > <http://www.stltoday.com/news/article_bcc02074-5b1a-11e0-b199-0017a4a7...> . > > An officer with the local Major Case Squad unit is quoted there. I quote > from the 1999 story: > > << "We cannot find any motive for his death, " he said. > "We're not absolutely sure that this is a homicide." >> . What's the cause of death?
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| From | David Bernier <david250@videotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2011-04-02 10:45 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <in7cs201hhp@news6.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #2455 |
Joe Snodgrass wrote: > On Apr 1, 10:54 am, David Bernier<david...@videotron.ca> wrote: >> haha doh wrote: >>> On Mar 31, 3:15 pm, Joe Snodgrass<joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> >> >>>> As to which crime was being committed, I'm going with numbers running >>>> or loan sharking. There's no reason for any crook to keep any record >>>> of any other crime, except prostitution, where phone books come in >>>> handy. >> >>>> Thievery is not an honest business, and records of what went down, >>>> where and with whom can only hurt you. Unless of course, it's a grand >>>> list of felonies that he was using to blackmail the participants. >> >>>> But I can't see gathering that much info from blackmail. I always >>>> thought it involved one guy blackmailing one victim. This would imply >>>> a factory scale process, and he'd need some way to lure his prey into >>>> the trap. >> >>>> Of course, that WOULD be a good way to get murdered. >>> This is him >>> http://img851.imageshack.us/i/4d93ac54b10bcimage.jpg/ >> >> True indeed! , according to a story posted on March 30 on the >> website of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch: >> <http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/ad567e00-5b13-11e0-8ed4-0012...> >> . >> >> That web page has a link to a 1999 article on the discovery of the body: >> <http://www.stltoday.com/news/article_bcc02074-5b1a-11e0-b199-0017a4a7...> . >> >> An officer with the local Major Case Squad unit is quoted there. I quote >> from the 1999 story: >> >> << "We cannot find any motive for his death, " he said. >> "We're not absolutely sure that this is a homicide.">> . > > What's the cause of death? From one of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch articles (presumably the orig. source), one learns that "Death appears to be caused by a blow to the head.", this via "Austinstar" at hubpages.com : < http://hubpages.com/hub/Cryptographic-clues > . - Body identified through fingerprints (St. Louis Post-Dispatch). - Ricky McCormick had a criminal conviction for statutory rape. (via n01h3r3 at boards.straightdope.com) : < http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13642308 > . - Ricky McCormick had one address in St. Louis, Missouri and others in Illinois (why?). David
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| From | Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-02 19:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <674b637e-de95-4d04-88e0-ef90a75a718c@y26g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2457 |
On Apr 2, 10:45 am, David Bernier <david...@videotron.ca> wrote: > Joe Snodgrass wrote: > > On Apr 1, 10:54 am, David Bernier<david...@videotron.ca> wrote: > >> haha doh wrote: > >>> On Mar 31, 3:15 pm, Joe Snodgrass<joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> [...] > > >>>> As to which crime was being committed, I'm going with numbers running > >>>> or loan sharking. There's no reason for any crook to keep any record > >>>> of any other crime, except prostitution, where phone books come in > >>>> handy. > > >>>> Thievery is not an honest business, and records of what went down, > >>>> where and with whom can only hurt you. Unless of course, it's a grand > >>>> list of felonies that he was using to blackmail the participants. > > >>>> But I can't see gathering that much info from blackmail. I always > >>>> thought it involved one guy blackmailing one victim. This would imply > >>>> a factory scale process, and he'd need some way to lure his prey into > >>>> the trap. > > >>>> Of course, that WOULD be a good way to get murdered. > >>> This is him > >>>http://img851.imageshack.us/i/4d93ac54b10bcimage.jpg/ > > >> True indeed! , according to a story posted on March 30 on the > >> website of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch: > >> <http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/ad567e00-5b13-11e0-8ed4-0012...> > >> . > > >> That web page has a link to a 1999 article on the discovery of the body: > >> <http://www.stltoday.com/news/article_bcc02074-5b1a-11e0-b199-0017a4a7...> . > > >> An officer with the local Major Case Squad unit is quoted there. I quote > >> from the 1999 story: > > >> << "We cannot find any motive for his death, " he said. > >> "We're not absolutely sure that this is a homicide.">> . > > > What's the cause of death? > > From one of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch articles (presumably the orig. source), > one learns that "Death appears to be caused by a blow to the head.", > this via "Austinstar" at hubpages.com : > <http://hubpages.com/hub/Cryptographic-clues> . > > - Body identified through fingerprints (St. Louis Post-Dispatch). > > - Ricky McCormick had a criminal conviction for statutory rape. > (via n01h3r3 at boards.straightdope.com) : > <http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13642308> . And the sheriff doesn't think that's homicide?
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| From | "Stretto" <Stretto@Nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-02 23:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <in8tat$8jr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #2457 |
"David Bernier" <david250@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:in7cs201hhp@news6.newsguy.com... > Joe Snodgrass wrote: >> On Apr 1, 10:54 am, David Bernier<david...@videotron.ca> wrote: >>> haha doh wrote: >>>> On Mar 31, 3:15 pm, Joe Snodgrass<joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> [...] >>> >>> >>> >>>>> As to which crime was being committed, I'm going with numbers running >>>>> or loan sharking. There's no reason for any crook to keep any record >>>>> of any other crime, except prostitution, where phone books come in >>>>> handy. >>> >>>>> Thievery is not an honest business, and records of what went down, >>>>> where and with whom can only hurt you. Unless of course, it's a grand >>>>> list of felonies that he was using to blackmail the participants. >>> >>>>> But I can't see gathering that much info from blackmail. I always >>>>> thought it involved one guy blackmailing one victim. This would imply >>>>> a factory scale process, and he'd need some way to lure his prey into >>>>> the trap. >>> >>>>> Of course, that WOULD be a good way to get murdered. >>>> This is him >>>> http://img851.imageshack.us/i/4d93ac54b10bcimage.jpg/ >>> >>> True indeed! , according to a story posted on March 30 on the >>> website of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch: >>> <http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/ad567e00-5b13-11e0-8ed4-0012...> >>> . >>> >>> That web page has a link to a 1999 article on the discovery of the body: >>> <http://www.stltoday.com/news/article_bcc02074-5b1a-11e0-b199-0017a4a7...> >>> . >>> >>> An officer with the local Major Case Squad unit is quoted there. I quote >>> from the 1999 story: >>> >>> << "We cannot find any motive for his death, " he said. >>> "We're not absolutely sure that this is a homicide.">> . >> >> What's the cause of death? > > From one of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch articles (presumably the orig. > source), > one learns that "Death appears to be caused by a blow to the head.", > this via "Austinstar" at hubpages.com : > < http://hubpages.com/hub/Cryptographic-clues > . > Maybe a flying car hit him? > - Body identified through fingerprints (St. Louis Post-Dispatch). > > - Ricky McCormick had a criminal conviction for statutory rape. > (via n01h3r3 at boards.straightdope.com) : > < http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13642308 > . > > - Ricky McCormick had one address in St. Louis, Missouri and > others in Illinois (why?). > > David
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| From | xDog Walker <thudfoo@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-03-30 14:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.69.1301656043.2990.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #2246 |
On Wednesday 2011 March 30 13:56, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > [LINK] ??? http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/march/cryptanalysis_032911/image/gallery -- I have seen the future and I am not in it.
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