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Re: I haev fixed it

Started byChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
First post2013-10-01 18:59 +1000
Last post2013-10-01 14:20 -0400
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  Re: I haev fixed it Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 18:59 +1000
    Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 13:16 +0300
      Re: I haev fixed it Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 20:47 +1000
        Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 13:54 +0300
          Re: I haev fixed it Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 20:58 +1000
            Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 14:06 +0300
              Re: I haev fixed it Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2013-10-01 13:29 +0200
                Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 15:06 +0300
                  Re: I haev fixed it Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2013-10-01 14:12 +0200
                    Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 15:21 +0300
                      Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 15:25 +0300
                        Re: I haev fixed it ishish <ishish@domhain.de> - 2013-10-01 13:50 +0100
                          Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 16:14 +0300
                            Re: I haev fixed it ishish <ishish@domhain.de> - 2013-10-01 14:26 +0100
                              Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 16:37 +0300
                            Re: I haev fixed it Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 09:35 -0400
                              Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 16:39 +0300
              Re: I haev fixed it alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 09:25 +1000
                Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 02:30 +0300
                  Re: I haev fixed it alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 09:38 +1000
          Re: I haev fixed it Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-10-01 06:59 -0400
          Re: I haev fixed it Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-01 14:23 +0100
            Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 16:34 +0300
              Re: I haev fixed it Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-01 14:44 +0100
                Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 16:52 +0300
                  Re: I haev fixed it Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-01 15:00 +0100
              Re: I haev fixed it feedthetroll@gmx.de - 2013-10-01 07:08 -0700
                Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 17:32 +0300
                  Re: I haev fixed it feedthetroll@gmx.de - 2013-10-01 08:53 -0700
                    Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 18:57 +0300
                      Re: I haev fixed it feedthetroll@gmx.de - 2013-10-01 09:40 -0700
                        Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 01:46 +0300
                          Re: I haev fixed it Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-01 23:57 +0100
                            Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 02:28 +0300
                              Re: I haev fixed it Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-02 15:01 +0100
                                Re: I haev fixed it Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 15:48 +0000
                                  Re: I haev fixed it Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-02 17:07 +0100
                                    Re: I haev fixed it Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 18:57 +0000
          Re: I haev fixed it Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-02 02:35 +0000
            Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 13:12 +0300
      Re: I haev fixed it Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-01 14:19 +0100
        Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 16:22 +0300
      Re: I haev fixed it Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 09:27 -0400
        Re: I haev fixed it Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 16:43 +0300
        Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-02 01:52 +0000
          Re: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it] Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 22:02 -0400
            Re: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-02 02:40 +0000
              Re: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it] Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 21:33 -0600
              Re: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it] Daniel Stojanov <daniel.stjnv+python-list@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 12:57 +1000
              Re: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it] Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-10-02 12:05 +0000
          Re: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it] Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 21:28 -0500
      Re: I haev fixed it Piet van Oostrum <piet@vanoostrum.org> - 2013-10-01 14:20 -0400

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#55191

FromMark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2013-10-01 14:19 +0100
Message-ID<mailman.547.1380633607.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#55174
On 01/10/2013 11:47, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
>> WHO AND MOST IMPORTNTANLY HOW DID HE MANAGED TO UPLOAD THIS FILE ON MY
>> ACCOUNT?
>>
>> PLEASE ANSWER ME, I WONT GET MAD, BUT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT SECURITY RISK.
>>
>> SOMEONES MUST HAVE ACCESS TO MY ACCOUNT, DOES THE SOURCE CODE OF MY MAIN
>> PYTHON SCRIPT APPEARS SOMEPLACE AGAIN?!?!
>
> Whoever did it, he seems also to have gained access to your emails as
> well. Congratulations to him, I think he's done well.
>
> ChrisA
>

I'm sorry Chris but I must disagree with you.  It's like claiming that 
somebody has done well breaking into a field that has neither gate nor 
fence.

-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence

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#55192

FromΝίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-01 16:22 +0300
Message-ID<l2eias$1a1$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55191
Στις 1/10/2013 4:19 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
> On 01/10/2013 11:47, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> WHO AND MOST IMPORTNTANLY HOW DID HE MANAGED TO UPLOAD THIS FILE ON MY
>>> ACCOUNT?
>>>
>>> PLEASE ANSWER ME, I WONT GET MAD, BUT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT SECURITY
>>> RISK.
>>>
>>> SOMEONES MUST HAVE ACCESS TO MY ACCOUNT, DOES THE SOURCE CODE OF MY MAIN
>>> PYTHON SCRIPT APPEARS SOMEPLACE AGAIN?!?!
>>
>> Whoever did it, he seems also to have gained access to your emails as
>> well. Congratulations to him, I think he's done well.
>>
>> ChrisA
>>
>
> I'm sorry Chris but I must disagree with you.  It's like claiming that
> somebody has done well breaking into a field that has neither gate nor
> fence.

Now it hance a fence. Jump again to break in.

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#55196

FromJoel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-01 09:27 -0400
Message-ID<mailman.551.1380634030.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#55174

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all your base are belong to us


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:

> On 01/10/2013 11:47, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> WHO AND MOST IMPORTNTANLY HOW DID HE MANAGED TO UPLOAD THIS FILE ON MY
>>> ACCOUNT?
>>>
>>> PLEASE ANSWER ME, I WONT GET MAD, BUT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT SECURITY RISK.
>>>
>>> SOMEONES MUST HAVE ACCESS TO MY ACCOUNT, DOES THE SOURCE CODE OF MY MAIN
>>> PYTHON SCRIPT APPEARS SOMEPLACE AGAIN?!?!
>>>
>>
>> Whoever did it, he seems also to have gained access to your emails as
>> well. Congratulations to him, I think he's done well.
>>
>> ChrisA
>>
>>
> I'm sorry Chris but I must disagree with you.  It's like claiming that
> somebody has done well breaking into a field that has neither gate nor
> fence.
>
>
> --
> Cheers.
>
> Mark Lawrence
>
> --
> https://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-list<https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>
>



-- 
Joel Goldstick
http://joelgoldstick.com

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#55204

FromΝίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-01 16:43 +0300
Message-ID<l2ejip$8un$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55196
Στις 1/10/2013 4:27 μμ, ο/η Joel Goldstick έγραψε:
> all your base are belong to us

Keep it safe, because its high unlikely you will see it again.

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#55264 — Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it]

FromSteven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>
Date2013-10-02 01:52 +0000
SubjectStop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it]
Message-ID<524b7c66$0$29974$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#55196
Joel, you've been asked repeatedly to please stop posting HTML. On a non-
binary newsgroup like this, it is rude and inconsiderate of others to 
persist.

On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:27:02 -0400, Joel Goldstick wrote:

> <div dir="ltr">all your base are belong to us<br></div><div
> class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 1, 2013
> at 9:19 AM, Mark Lawrence <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
> href="mailto:breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk"
> target="_blank">breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
> #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">On 01/10/2013 11:47, Chris
> Angelico wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
> .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013
> at 8:16 PM, Νίκος &lt;<a href="mailto:nikos.gr33k@gmail.com"
> target="_blank">nikos.gr33k@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> <blockquote
> class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc

[rest of the HTML gunk deleted]



-- 
Steven

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#55265 — Re: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it]

FromJoel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-01 22:02 -0400
SubjectRe: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it]
Message-ID<mailman.585.1380679359.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#55264

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On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Steven D'Aprano <
steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:

> Joel, you've been asked repeatedly to please stop posting HTML. On a non-
> binary newsgroup like this, it is rude and inconsiderate of others to
> persist.
>
> On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:27:02 -0400, Joel Goldstick wrote:
>
> > <div dir="ltr">all your base are belong to us<br></div><div
> > class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 1, 2013
> > at 9:19 AM, Mark Lawrence <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
> > href="mailto:breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk"
> > target="_blank">breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
> > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
> > #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">On 01/10/2013 11:47, Chris
> > Angelico wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
> > .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013
> > at 8:16 PM, Νίκος &lt;<a href="mailto:nikos.gr33k@gmail.com"
> > target="_blank">nikos.gr33k@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> <blockquote
> > class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
>
> [rest of the HTML gunk deleted]
>
>
>
> --
> Steven
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>

I'm very sorry.  I didn't realize I was.  I use gmail for this list, and I
believe it replies with html if the previous message was written with
html.  I'll be more vigilant.  Mea culpa to all.  This is something that
changed apparently with gmail as  in the past I have set all outgoing
messages to text.   I agree its annoying.


-- 
Joel Goldstick
http://joelgoldstick.com

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#55269 — Re: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it]

FromSteven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>
Date2013-10-02 02:40 +0000
SubjectRe: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it]
Message-ID<524b878f$0$29984$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#55265
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 22:02:36 -0400, Joel Goldstick wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Steven D'Aprano <
> steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> 
>> Joel, you've been asked repeatedly to please stop posting HTML.
[...]

> <br></font></span></blockquote></div><br></div><div
> class="gmail_extra">I&#39;m very sorry.  I didn&#39;t realize I was.  I
> use gmail for this list, and I believe it replies with html if the
> previous message was written with html.  I&#39;ll be more vigilant.

Not vigilant enough, it seems.



-- 
Steven

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#55270 — Re: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it]

FromMichael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-01 21:33 -0600
SubjectRe: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it]
Message-ID<mailman.587.1380686433.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#55269
On 10/01/2013 08:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 22:02:36 -0400, Joel Goldstick wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Steven D'Aprano <
>> steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
>>
>>> Joel, you've been asked repeatedly to please stop posting HTML.
> [...]
> 
>> <br></font></span></blockquote></div><br></div><div
>> class="gmail_extra">I&#39;m very sorry.  I didn&#39;t realize I was.  I
>> use gmail for this list, and I believe it replies with html if the
>> previous message was written with html.  I&#39;ll be more vigilant.
> 
> Not vigilant enough, it seems.

Near as I can tell Gmail is posting the message in both html and plain
text parts in a multi-part message.

Thunderbird has no problem with the plain text part. That's all I see
right now, unless I force html view, or look at the message source.

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#55272 — Re: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it]

FromDaniel Stojanov <daniel.stjnv+python-list@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-02 12:57 +1000
SubjectRe: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it]
Message-ID<mailman.588.1380689050.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#55269
On 2 October 2013 12:40, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
>>> Joel, you've been asked repeatedly to please stop posting HTML.
> [...]
>
>> <br></font></span></blockquote></div><br></div><div
>> class="gmail_extra">I&#39;m very sorry.  I didn&#39;t realize I was.  I
>> use gmail for this list, and I believe it replies with html if the
>> previous message was written with html.  I&#39;ll be more vigilant.
>
> Not vigilant enough, it seems.
>
>
>
> --
> Steven
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list



I have noticed that you need to set plain text mode each time you
compose from Gmail (it sometimes reverts back) and there is no option
for plain text for the mobile app.
It's also awkward about replying below the previous text.

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#55317 — Re: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it]

FromDave Angel <davea@davea.name>
Date2013-10-02 12:05 +0000
SubjectRe: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it]
Message-ID<mailman.618.1380715810.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#55269
On 1/10/2013 23:33, Michael Torrie wrote:

> On 10/01/2013 08:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 22:02:36 -0400, Joel Goldstick wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Steven D'Aprano <
>>> steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joel, you've been asked repeatedly to please stop posting HTML.
>> [...]
>> 
>>> <br></font></span></blockquote></div><br></div><div
>>> class="gmail_extra">I&#39;m very sorry.  I didn&#39;t realize I was.  I
>>> use gmail for this list, and I believe it replies with html if the
>>> previous message was written with html.  I&#39;ll be more vigilant.
>> 
>> Not vigilant enough, it seems.
>
> Near as I can tell Gmail is posting the message in both html and plain
> text parts in a multi-part message.
>
> Thunderbird has no problem with the plain text part. That's all I see
> right now, unless I force html view, or look at the message source.

You say that as though you think that makes html posting okay.

The html to text conversion done at posting time frequently loses
something in the message, so that people viewing the text in a
newsreader don't see the same thing the author typed. Simplest example
is color or bold. But the author can avoid using these. More
importantly, indentation and paragraph boundaries are sometimes
completely lost, and worse, sometimes just lost in some places.

Sometimes the html and text are both stuffed into the same part of the
mail message.  This is annoying and misleading.  I don't know if gmail
is guilty of this.

Sometimes a message has html only, and the receiving program
sometimes attempts to convert it to plain text.  That's even more likely
to have problems with formatting.

Whenever html is included, it's a redundant waste of space, and many of
us pay for our internet usage by the kilobyte.  Worse, I assume that all
the archives are also bigger by a big percentage.

-- 
DaveA

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#55266 — Re: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it]

FromSkip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-01 21:28 -0500
SubjectRe: Stop posting HTML [was Re: I haev fixed it]
Message-ID<mailman.586.1380680925.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#55264

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> I use gmail for this list, and I believe it replies with html if the
previous message was written with html.

I can verify that. Definitely need to pay attention when using Gmail. It
loves to top post and quote entire messages by default as well.

Skip (who has a love/hate relationship with Gmail)

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#55232

FromPiet van Oostrum <piet@vanoostrum.org>
Date2013-10-01 14:20 -0400
Message-ID<m21u44lunu.fsf@cochabamba.vanoostrum.org>
In reply to#55174
Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> writes:

> Just logged in via FTP to my server and i saw an uploade file named
> "Warnign html"
>
> Contents were:
>
> WARNING
>
> I am incompetent. Do not hire me!
>
> Question:
>
> WHO AND MOST IMPORTNTANLY HOW DID HE MANAGED TO UPLOAD THIS FILE ON MY
> ACCOUNT?
>
> PLEASE ANSWER ME, I WONT GET MAD, BUT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT SECURITY RISK.
>
> SOMEONES MUST HAVE ACCESS TO MY ACCOUNT, DOES THE SOURCE CODE OF MY MAIN
> PYTHON SCRIPT APPEARS SOMEPLACE AGAIN?!?!

These questions show that the one who put that warning on your site was right.
-- 
Piet van Oostrum <piet@vanoostrum.org>
WWW: http://pietvanoostrum.com/
PGP key: [8DAE142BE17999C4]

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