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Re: __init__ is the initialiser

Started byBen Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au>
First post2014-02-01 10:47 +1100
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  Re: __init__ is the initialiser Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-02-01 10:47 +1100

#65151 — Re: __init__ is the initialiser

FromBen Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au>
Date2014-02-01 10:47 +1100
SubjectRe: __init__ is the initialiser
Message-ID<mailman.6231.1391212076.18130.python-list@python.org>
Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> writes:

> > On 01/31/2014 12:48 PM, MRAB wrote:
> > >The advantage of calling it the "initialiser" is that it explains
> > >why it's called "__init__".
>
> On this basis, would it suffice to change the opening sentence from:
>   Called when the instance is created.
>
> to
>   Called to initialise a new instance immediately after creation.
>
> ?
>
> This seems succinct while getting both "initialise" and "new" into the
> line, which makes it clear that there is a separate and earlier "new"
> step. (Conveniently overridable with __new__ :-)

It leaves a naive reader (who isn't yet familiar with the convention for
special names in Python) with the false implication that “__init__” is
usually called *manually*.

I would prefer it to be clear that “__init__” is called automatically,
*during* the constructor's operation. So, instead of:

    Called when the instance is created.

I suggest:

    Called automatically by the constructor “__new__” during instance
    creation, to initialise the new instance.

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