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TEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL

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First post2012-02-14 23:13 -0800
Last post2012-02-16 20:40 -0500
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  TEST  AN EXECUTABLE  PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-02-14 23:13 -0800
    Re: TEST  AN EXECUTABLE  PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL Miki Tebeka <miki.tebeka@gmail.com> - 2012-02-15 10:36 -0800
      Re: TEST  AN EXECUTABLE  PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-02-15 13:48 -0500
      Re: TEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-02-16 10:54 +1100
      RE: TEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com> - 2012-02-16 21:10 +0000
      Re: TEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL Arnaud Delobelle <arnodel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-16 21:51 +0000
    Re: TEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL gene heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2012-02-16 20:40 -0500

#20429 — TEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL

From88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com>
Date2012-02-14 23:13 -0800
SubjectTEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL
Message-ID<3474662.0.1329289996380.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbcpa10>
After my testing of JAVA, PYTHON, VB,  C-sharp and Erlang like 
script languages, I noticed that script languages should be 
timed after the shell interpreter completed loaded.

The start up loading time of script interpreters should be excluded in the measure of executing a byte code script.

This also explains why C-executables  are fast in manny testing
programs of various languages to out beat all interpreter loading
languages.  

But I computed the Euler'of s number for tens of thousands of digitsunder different  shells , then I was able to check the speed
issues of various computer languages.

My question is whether  a lot speed testings  of computer languages are done in a  biased way toward script languages 
to be slow?

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#20458

FromMiki Tebeka <miki.tebeka@gmail.com>
Date2012-02-15 10:36 -0800
Message-ID<27157671.70.1329330986455.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yndy9>
In reply to#20429
It depends on the overall runtime of the script vs start time of the vm. But yes in most benchmarks the script start time will bias against scripted languages.

On a site note: ALL CAPS is considered shouting, please don't use that in news groups.

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#20463

FromDave Angel <d@davea.name>
Date2012-02-15 13:48 -0500
Message-ID<mailman.5845.1329331754.27778.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#20458
On 02/15/2012 01:36 PM, Miki Tebeka wrote:
> It depends on the overall runtime of the script vs start time of the vm. But yes in most benchmarks the script start time will bias against scripted languages.
>
> On a site note: ALL CAPS is considered shouting, please don't use that in news groups.
When you reply to a known bot, please include some indication of the 
fact, so we know your message can be ignored as well.





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#20490 — Re: TEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2012-02-16 10:54 +1100
SubjectRe: TEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL
Message-ID<mailman.5867.1329350086.27778.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#20458
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:48 AM, Dave Angel <d@davea.name> wrote:
> When you reply to a known bot, please include some indication of the fact,
> so we know your message can be ignored as well.

Sometimes I wonder about 88888. Is there a real person there, as well
as the bot? A lot of his/its posts look too intelligent to be
computer-generated - or maybe I'm underestimating the quality of AI.

ChrisA

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#20525 — RE: TEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL

From"Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com>
Date2012-02-16 21:10 +0000
SubjectRE: TEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL
Message-ID<mailman.5900.1329428544.27778.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#20458
>> When you reply to a known bot, please include some indication of the 
>> fact, so we know your message can be ignored as well.

>Sometimes I wonder about 88888. Is there a real person there, as well as the bot? A lot of his/its 
posts look too intelligent to be computer-generated - or maybe I'm underestimating the quality of AI.

I was wondering the exact same thing.

Ramit


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#20526 — Re: TEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL

FromArnaud Delobelle <arnodel@gmail.com>
Date2012-02-16 21:51 +0000
SubjectRe: TEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL
Message-ID<mailman.5901.1329429097.27778.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#20458
On 16 February 2012 21:10, Prasad, Ramit <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com> wrote:
>>> When you reply to a known bot, please include some indication of the
>>> fact, so we know your message can be ignored as well.
>
>>Sometimes I wonder about 88888. Is there a real person there, as well as the bot? A lot of his/its
> posts look too intelligent to be computer-generated - or maybe I'm underestimating the quality of AI.
>
> I was wondering the exact same thing.

I think it may be that what you are underestimating is your ability,
as a human being, to create meaning where there is none.

-- 
Arnaud

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#20533 — Re: TEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com>
Date2012-02-16 20:40 -0500
SubjectRe: TEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL
Message-ID<mailman.5908.1329443216.27778.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#20429
On Thursday, February 16, 2012 08:40:04 PM Arnaud Delobelle did opine:

> On 16 February 2012 21:10, Prasad, Ramit <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com> 
wrote:
> >>> When you reply to a known bot, please include some indication of the
> >>> fact, so we know your message can be ignored as well.
> >>
> >>Sometimes I wonder about 88888. Is there a real person there, as well
> >>as the bot? A lot of his/its
> >>
> > posts look too intelligent to be computer-generated - or maybe I'm
> > underestimating the quality of AI.
> > 
> > I was wondering the exact same thing.
> 
> I think it may be that what you are underestimating is your ability,
> as a human being, to create meaning where there is none.

Ouch!

Cheers, Gene
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