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  Re: Cross-Platform Python3 Equivalent to notify-send Devyn Collier Johnson <devyncjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-07-27 08:22 -0400
    Re: Cross-Platform Python3 Equivalent to notify-send Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-27 15:59 +0000
      Re: Cross-Platform Python3 Equivalent to notify-send Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-27 17:06 +0100
      Re: Cross-Platform Python3 Equivalent to notify-send Devyn Collier Johnson <devyncjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-07-27 13:03 -0400

#51348 — Re: Cross-Platform Python3 Equivalent to notify-send

On 07/27/2013 07:30 AM, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Devyn Collier Johnson
> <devyncjohnson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Linux systems with the proper software can use the "notify-send" command. Is
>> there a cross-platform Python3 equivalent?
>>
>> Mahalo,
>>
>> Devyn Collier Johnson
>> DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com
>> --
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
> You already asked this on Thursday.  And the answer is probably “no”.  Creating
>
> Under X11-based systems, you would have to call the dbus notification
> APIs and pray that the user has something to handle it running (KDE,
> GNOME Shell, XFCE4’s notification daemon).  Under Mac OS X 10.7 and
> further, you need to work with some system APIs, and that may not be
> easy, but possible (eg. https://github.com/alloy/terminal-notifier for
> Ruby).
>
> But Windows?  GOOD LUCK!  The following options exist, none of which
> is easy to implement, and one of which is not usable with most
> clients:
>
> a) Toast Notifications in Windows 8/Server 2012, which is not a
>     popular platform and may require quite a lot of magic in terms of
>     coding and else (VS2012);
> b) Create a tray icon and do a balloon (2000 and up?, definitely in XP);
> c) Create your very own Windows toast notifications framework.
>
That really sucks. I was hoping Python had some way of doing that. All 
that it needs to do is display a little box at one of the corners of the 
screen. I thought someone would have implemented something by now. Thank 
you anyway.

Mahalo,

DCJ

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#51364

On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 08:22:00 -0400, Devyn Collier Johnson wrote:

> On 07/27/2013 07:30 AM, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Devyn Collier Johnson
>> <devyncjohnson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Linux systems with the proper software can use the "notify-send"
>>> command. Is there a cross-platform Python3 equivalent?

[snip answer "no"]

> That really sucks. I was hoping Python had some way of doing that. All
> that it needs to do is display a little box at one of the corners of the
> screen. I thought someone would have implemented something by now. Thank
> you anyway.

If it's that simple, how about you do it? Won't take you more than, oh, 
ten minutes, right?

*wink*

Don't underestimate the difficulty of "trivial" code when it has to work 
on two dozens different platforms with different capabilities:

Windows XP, 2000, Vista, 7, 8 ...
Mac OS-X
FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Linux, running KDE (3 or 4?), Gnome (2 or 3?), Trinity, 
RatPoison, XFCE, something else... or no window manager at all



-- 
Steven

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#51365

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 08:22:00 -0400, Devyn Collier Johnson wrote:
>> That really sucks. I was hoping Python had some way of doing that. All
>> that it needs to do is display a little box at one of the corners of the
>> screen. I thought someone would have implemented something by now. Thank
>> you anyway.
>
> If it's that simple, how about you do it? Won't take you more than, oh,
> ten minutes, right?
>
> *wink*
>
> Don't underestimate the difficulty of "trivial" code when it has to work
> on two dozens different platforms with different capabilities

That doesn't mean the question shouldn't be asked, of course. Steven
isn't (at least, I don't think he is!) scorning you for asking.
Sometimes the response is quite the opposite - that it's so utterly
trivial that there's no NEED for a library function! Never hurts to
throw the question out there...

ChrisA

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#51370

On 07/27/2013 12:06 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Steven D'Aprano
> <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 08:22:00 -0400, Devyn Collier Johnson wrote:
>>> That really sucks. I was hoping Python had some way of doing that. All
>>> that it needs to do is display a little box at one of the corners of the
>>> screen. I thought someone would have implemented something by now. Thank
>>> you anyway.
>> If it's that simple, how about you do it? Won't take you more than, oh,
>> ten minutes, right?
>>
>> *wink*
>>
>> Don't underestimate the difficulty of "trivial" code when it has to work
>> on two dozens different platforms with different capabilities
> That doesn't mean the question shouldn't be asked, of course. Steven
> isn't (at least, I don't think he is!) scorning you for asking.
> Sometimes the response is quite the opposite - that it's so utterly
> trivial that there's no NEED for a library function! Never hurts to
> throw the question out there...
>
> ChrisA
I wanted to make a module (boash) that would be useful, but clearly it 
is not. Here, is a feature that is useful that no one has. This may be 
the module I decide to make. So, there is no cross-platform for such a 
command any where? Would this be a useful module?

I know Steven is not scorning me. He is making me think and I have an idea.


Mahalo,

DCJ

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