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  UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 10:49 +0300
    Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 10:53 +0300
      Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 18:00 +1000
        Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 11:04 +0300
          Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 18:07 +1000
            Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 11:19 +0300
              Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 18:23 +1000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 11:30 +0300
                  Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 11:37 +0300
                    Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-09-29 09:45 +0000
                      Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 13:24 +0300
                        Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-29 11:11 +0000
                          Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 14:25 +0300
                            Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-29 11:46 +0000
                              Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 14:51 +0300
                                Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 14:38 +0200
                                Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-30 00:01 +1000
                            Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-30 00:19 +1000
                              Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 19:06 +0300
                                Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 12:14 -0400
                                  Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 19:19 +0300
                                    Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2013-09-29 20:16 -0700
                                    Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-09-30 15:45 +0100
                                      Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-30 21:03 +0300
                                        Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-09-30 20:18 +0200
                                        Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-09-30 19:42 +0100
                                          Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-30 23:13 +0300
                                            Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-09-30 21:44 +0100
                                              Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 00:34 +0300
                                                Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-09-30 17:44 -0400
                                                  Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 01:08 +0300
                                                    Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-09-30 18:13 -0400
                                                    Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-09-30 23:14 +0100
                                                      Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 01:19 +0300
                                                        Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-09-30 23:28 +0100
                                                          Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 01:30 +0300
                                                            Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 08:43 +1000
                                                              Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 01:48 +0300
                                                    Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-09-30 23:50 +0000
                                                Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-09-30 22:47 +0100
                                        Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-09-30 14:54 -0400
                                        Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-09-30 22:51 +0200
                                        Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 08:29 +1000
                                          Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 01:36 +0300
                                            Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 08:56 +1000
                                              Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 02:14 +0300
                                                Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-01 09:27 +0200
                                                  Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 11:39 +0300
                                                    Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-01 11:10 +0200
                                                  Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-02 01:36 +0000
                                                    Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-02 09:23 +0200
                                                      Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 11:52 +0300
                                                    Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 11:49 +0300
                                            Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-01 14:29 +0000
                                        Mutual respect, tolerance, encouragement (was: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2013-10-01 08:42 +1000
          Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-09-29 06:53 -0400
            Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-09-29 14:08 +0000
          Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-09-29 13:30 -0400
          Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-09-29 15:08 -0400
    Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 17:53 +1000
      Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 10:59 +0300
        Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-09-29 12:25 -0400
        Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-09-30 13:51 +0000
          Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-09-30 15:51 +0100
            Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-09-30 22:09 +0000
          Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb6 in position 0: invalid start byte Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-01 01:06 +1000

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#55026

Στις 29/9/2013 7:14 μμ, ο/η Joel Goldstick έγραψε:
> asked and answered.  Move on

shut up. you are nothign but annoyance here.

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#55047

On 09/29/2013 09:19 AM, Νίκος wrote:
> Στις 29/9/2013 7:14 μμ, ο/η Joel Goldstick έγραψε:
>> asked and answered.  Move on
>
> shut up. you are nothign but annoyance here.

Thanks for the laugh.

Absolutely the most hilarious thing you've ever posted!!!   :-)

(Ever hear about the pot and the kettle?)

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#55078

On 29/09/2013 17:19, Νίκος wrote:
> Στις 29/9/2013 7:14 μμ, ο/η Joel Goldstick έγραψε:
>> asked and answered.  Move on
>
> shut up. you are nothign but annoyance here.

Absolutely hilarious.  Please give up your web work and Python and get a 
job writing scripts for comedians, you'd make a large fortune.

-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence

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#55096

Στις 30/9/2013 5:45 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
> On 29/09/2013 17:19, Νίκος wrote:
>> Στις 29/9/2013 7:14 μμ, ο/η Joel Goldstick έγραψε:
>>> asked and answered.  Move on
>>
>> shut up. you are nothign but annoyance here.
>
> Absolutely hilarious.  Please give up your web work and Python and get a
> job writing scripts for comedians, you'd make a large fortune.

I learn Python for personal pleasure because i like programming.
Perhaps it would be even better if you quit spamming my thread with your 
"funny" quotes.

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#55097

Op 30-09-13 20:03, Νίκος schreef:
> Στις 30/9/2013 5:45 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
>> On 29/09/2013 17:19, Νίκος wrote:
>>> Στις 29/9/2013 7:14 μμ, ο/η Joel Goldstick έγραψε:
>>>> asked and answered.  Move on
>>>
>>> shut up. you are nothign but annoyance here.
>>
>> Absolutely hilarious.  Please give up your web work and Python and get a
>> job writing scripts for comedians, you'd make a large fortune.
>
> I learn Python for personal pleasure because i like programming.

You may like porgramming, but it is rather obvious you don't like
the python style of programming. So maybe you should chose a
laguage whose style is more to your liking.

> Perhaps it would be even better if you quit spamming my thread with your
> "funny" quotes.

You have no authority over what people contribute in your thread. Since
you don't seem very considerate about the effect your contributions have
on others, you can hardly expect others to be considerate of you.

-- 
Antoon Pardon

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#55099

On 30/09/2013 19:03, Νίκος wrote:
> Στις 30/9/2013 5:45 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
>> On 29/09/2013 17:19, Νίκος wrote:
>>> Στις 29/9/2013 7:14 μμ, ο/η Joel Goldstick έγραψε:
>>>> asked and answered.  Move on
>>>
>>> shut up. you are nothign but annoyance here.
>>
>> Absolutely hilarious.  Please give up your web work and Python and get a
>> job writing scripts for comedians, you'd make a large fortune.
>
> I learn Python for personal pleasure because i like programming.
> Perhaps it would be even better if you quit spamming my thread with your
> "funny" quotes.

Your approach as given in the pseudocode given below is taking up what, 
50% of the bandwidth here?  What a waste of a resource.

while "answer_isn't_what_I_want":
    keep_asking_question()

You are to this mailing list what King Herod was to baby sitting.

Please drop dead and the sooner the better.  Your arrogant attitide to 
the numerous people who've tried so hard to help you is disgraceful.

-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence

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#55110

Στις 30/9/2013 9:42 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
> On 30/09/2013 19:03, Νίκος wrote:
>> Στις 30/9/2013 5:45 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
>>> On 29/09/2013 17:19, Νίκος wrote:
>>>> Στις 29/9/2013 7:14 μμ, ο/η Joel Goldstick έγραψε:
>>>>> asked and answered.  Move on
>>>>
>>>> shut up. you are nothign but annoyance here.
>>>
>>> Absolutely hilarious.  Please give up your web work and Python and get a
>>> job writing scripts for comedians, you'd make a large fortune.
>>
>> I learn Python for personal pleasure because i like programming.
>> Perhaps it would be even better if you quit spamming my thread with your
>> "funny" quotes.
>
> Your approach as given in the pseudocode given below is taking up what,
> 50% of the bandwidth here?  What a waste of a resource.
>
> while "answer_isn't_what_I_want":
>     keep_asking_question()

I was thankfull to the people that tried to help me(excluding you)
Several method have been given to solve the problem.
Other newbies reading this will help them better understand why its 
written the way it is if they compare all the solutions.
And yes, i won't rest until i have it working as i think its clearer and 
more compact.


> You are to this mailing list what King Herod was to baby sitting.

And you are a major asshole leading this list, who is doing nothing else 
than critizizing others people's posts, spamming all he way along while 
contributing negatively only.

> Please drop dead and the sooner the better.

After you please.

> Your arrogant attitide to
> the numerous people who've tried so hard to help you is disgraceful.


Your ironic attitude on the other hand is what characterizes you.

Triing out various solutions and picking the one that better meets one's 
style and needs, is hardly considered as arrogance.

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#55115

On 30/09/2013 21:13, Νίκος wrote:
> And you are a major asshole leading this list, who is doing nothing else
> than critizizing others people's posts, spamming all he way along while
> contributing negatively only.
>

Really? http://code.activestate.com/lists/python-list/651611/

-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence

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#55119

Στις 30/9/2013 11:44 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
> On 30/09/2013 21:13, Νίκος wrote:
>> And you are a major asshole leading this list, who is doing nothing else
>> than critizizing others people's posts, spamming all he way along while
>> contributing negatively only.
>>
>
> Really? http://code.activestate.com/lists/python-list/651611/

One positive comment in the history opposes 10^2 negative ones.

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#55120

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On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:

> Στις 30/9/2013 11:44 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
>
>> On 30/09/2013 21:13, Νίκος wrote:
>>
>>> And you are a major asshole leading this list, who is doing nothing else
>>> than critizizing others people's posts, spamming all he way along while
>>> contributing negatively only.
>>>
>>>
>> Really? http://code.activestate.com/**lists/python-list/651611/<http://code.activestate.com/lists/python-list/651611/>
>>
>
> One positive comment in the history opposes 10^2 negative ones.
>
> --
> https://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-list<https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>
>

well, actually no.  one positive comment (and I'm sorry your reference
didn't reveal one!) is 10^2-1 times as 10^2 negative comments.   Look in a
mirror dude.  You are lazy, you charge people for code that you don't even
have under source control, you have no interest in understanding and
studying how your servers work, how python works.  You bitch and whine at
people who come along to help you.  You are to slothful to look at a
traceback.  Your hosting company ignores you apparently because you are
such an sob they don't even want your business.  You pick a nickname that
is the defininition of an asshole:
http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/flame_62.php  and yet
you return again and again to be rude to all who first try to help you out,
then realize you are such a total jerk that they even wish you an awful
demise without even having met you..

Take a look in the mirror dude.

I don't care if you want to tell me to shut up.  It seemed amusing to
others here.

-- 
Joel Goldstick
http://joelgoldstick.com

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#55124

Στις 1/10/2013 12:44 πμ, ο/η Joel Goldstick έγραψε:
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com
> <mailto:nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Στις 30/9/2013 11:44 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
>
>         On 30/09/2013 21:13, Νίκος wrote:
>
>             And you are a major asshole leading this list, who is doing
>             nothing else
>             than critizizing others people's posts, spamming all he way
>             along while
>             contributing negatively only.
>
>
>         Really? http://code.activestate.com/__lists/python-list/651611/
>         <http://code.activestate.com/lists/python-list/651611/>
>
>
>     One positive comment in the history opposes 10^2 negative ones.
>
>     --
>     https://mail.python.org/__mailman/listinfo/python-list
>     <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>
>
>
> well, actually no.  one positive comment (and I'm sorry your reference
> didn't reveal one!) is 10^2-1 times as 10^2 negative comments.   Look in
> a mirror dude.  You are lazy, you charge people for code that you don't
> even have under source control, you have no interest in understanding
> and studying how your servers work, how python works.  You bitch and
> whine at people who come along to help you.  You are to slothful to look
> at a traceback.  Your hosting company ignores you apparently because you
> are such an sob they don't even want your business.  You pick a nickname
> that is the defininition of an asshole:
> http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/flame_62.php  and yet
> you return again and again to be rude to all who first try to help you
> out, then realize you are such a total jerk that they even wish you an
> awful demise without even having met you..
>
> Take a look in the mirror dude.
>
> I don't care if you want to tell me to shut up.  It seemed amusing to
> others here.
>
> --
> Joel Goldstick
> http://joelgoldstick.com

stfu dickhead.

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#55126

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On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:

> Στις 1/10/2013 12:44 πμ, ο/η Joel Goldstick έγραψε:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com
>> <mailto:nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>**> wrote:
>>
>>     Στις 30/9/2013 11:44 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
>>
>>         On 30/09/2013 21:13, Νίκος wrote:
>>
>>             And you are a major asshole leading this list, who is doing
>>             nothing else
>>             than critizizing others people's posts, spamming all he way
>>             along while
>>             contributing negatively only.
>>
>>
>>         Really? http://code.activestate.com/__**lists/python-list/651611/<http://code.activestate.com/__lists/python-list/651611/>
>>
>>         <http://code.activestate.com/**lists/python-list/651611/<http://code.activestate.com/lists/python-list/651611/>
>> >
>>
>>
>>     One positive comment in the history opposes 10^2 negative ones.
>>
>>     --
>>     https://mail.python.org/__**mailman/listinfo/python-list<https://mail.python.org/__mailman/listinfo/python-list>
>>
>>     <https://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-list<https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>
>> >
>>
>>
>> well, actually no.  one positive comment (and I'm sorry your reference
>> didn't reveal one!) is 10^2-1 times as 10^2 negative comments.   Look in
>> a mirror dude.  You are lazy, you charge people for code that you don't
>> even have under source control, you have no interest in understanding
>> and studying how your servers work, how python works.  You bitch and
>> whine at people who come along to help you.  You are to slothful to look
>> at a traceback.  Your hosting company ignores you apparently because you
>> are such an sob they don't even want your business.  You pick a nickname
>> that is the defininition of an asshole:
>> http://www.politicsforum.org/**images/flame_warriors/flame_**62.php<http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/flame_62.php> and yet
>> you return again and again to be rude to all who first try to help you
>> out, then realize you are such a total jerk that they even wish you an
>> awful demise without even having met you..
>>
>> Take a look in the mirror dude.
>>
>> I don't care if you want to tell me to shut up.  It seemed amusing to
>> others here.
>>
>> --
>> Joel Goldstick
>> http://joelgoldstick.com
>>
>
> stfu dickhead.
> --
> https://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-list<https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>
>

that was responsive!  You should join your local debating club!

anyway, out!

-- 
Joel Goldstick
http://joelgoldstick.com

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#55127

On 30/09/2013 23:08, Νίκος wrote:
> Στις 1/10/2013 12:44 πμ, ο/η Joel Goldstick έγραψε:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com
>> <mailto:nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Στις 30/9/2013 11:44 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
>>
>>         On 30/09/2013 21:13, Νίκος wrote:
>>
>>             And you are a major asshole leading this list, who is doing
>>             nothing else
>>             than critizizing others people's posts, spamming all he way
>>             along while
>>             contributing negatively only.
>>
>>
>>         Really? http://code.activestate.com/__lists/python-list/651611/
>>         <http://code.activestate.com/lists/python-list/651611/>
>>
>>
>>     One positive comment in the history opposes 10^2 negative ones.
>>
>>     --
>>     https://mail.python.org/__mailman/listinfo/python-list
>>     <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>
>>
>>
>> well, actually no.  one positive comment (and I'm sorry your reference
>> didn't reveal one!) is 10^2-1 times as 10^2 negative comments.   Look in
>> a mirror dude.  You are lazy, you charge people for code that you don't
>> even have under source control, you have no interest in understanding
>> and studying how your servers work, how python works.  You bitch and
>> whine at people who come along to help you.  You are to slothful to look
>> at a traceback.  Your hosting company ignores you apparently because you
>> are such an sob they don't even want your business.  You pick a nickname
>> that is the defininition of an asshole:
>> http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/flame_62.php  and yet
>> you return again and again to be rude to all who first try to help you
>> out, then realize you are such a total jerk that they even wish you an
>> awful demise without even having met you..
>>
>> Take a look in the mirror dude.
>>
>> I don't care if you want to tell me to shut up.  It seemed amusing to
>> others here.
>>
>> --
>> Joel Goldstick
>> http://joelgoldstick.com
>
> stfu dickhead.

To quote from The A-Team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence

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#55129

Στις 1/10/2013 1:14 πμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
> On 30/09/2013 23:08, Νίκος wrote:
>> Στις 1/10/2013 12:44 πμ, ο/η Joel Goldstick έγραψε:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Στις 30/9/2013 11:44 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
>>>
>>>         On 30/09/2013 21:13, Νίκος wrote:
>>>
>>>             And you are a major asshole leading this list, who is doing
>>>             nothing else
>>>             than critizizing others people's posts, spamming all he way
>>>             along while
>>>             contributing negatively only.
>>>
>>>
>>>         Really? http://code.activestate.com/__lists/python-list/651611/
>>>         <http://code.activestate.com/lists/python-list/651611/>
>>>
>>>
>>>     One positive comment in the history opposes 10^2 negative ones.
>>>
>>>     --
>>>     https://mail.python.org/__mailman/listinfo/python-list
>>>     <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>
>>>
>>>
>>> well, actually no.  one positive comment (and I'm sorry your reference
>>> didn't reveal one!) is 10^2-1 times as 10^2 negative comments.   Look in
>>> a mirror dude.  You are lazy, you charge people for code that you don't
>>> even have under source control, you have no interest in understanding
>>> and studying how your servers work, how python works.  You bitch and
>>> whine at people who come along to help you.  You are to slothful to look
>>> at a traceback.  Your hosting company ignores you apparently because you
>>> are such an sob they don't even want your business.  You pick a nickname
>>> that is the defininition of an asshole:
>>> http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/flame_62.php  and yet
>>> you return again and again to be rude to all who first try to help you
>>> out, then realize you are such a total jerk that they even wish you an
>>> awful demise without even having met you..
>>>
>>> Take a look in the mirror dude.
>>>
>>> I don't care if you want to tell me to shut up.  It seemed amusing to
>>> others here.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joel Goldstick
>>> http://joelgoldstick.com
>>
>> stfu dickhead.
>
> To quote from The A-Team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

2 dickheads names Joe & Mark work together to achieve total bullshit!
Well done Beavis & Butthead!
rofl...

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#55131

On 30/09/2013 23:19, Νίκος wrote:
>
> 2 dickheads names Joe & Mark work together to achieve total bullshit!
> Well done Beavis & Butthead!
> rofl...
>

Well aside from the fact that you've maintained your record by being 
inaccurate with 50% of the names that you've quoted, it appears that 
we've something that has very much in common with your website.  Which 
reminds me, is it still possible to access your users' names and 
passwords in plain text or is that something that you've actually 
bothered to fix?

-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence

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#55133

Στις 1/10/2013 1:28 πμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
> On 30/09/2013 23:19, Νίκος wrote:
>>
>> 2 dickheads names Joe & Mark work together to achieve total bullshit!
>> Well done Beavis & Butthead!
>> rofl...
>>
>
> Well aside from the fact that you've maintained your record by being
> inaccurate with 50% of the names that you've quoted, it appears that
> we've something that has very much in common with your website.  Which
> reminds me, is it still possible to access your users' names and
> passwords in plain text or is that something that you've actually
> bothered to fix?

Nope, it isn't. I have fixed it.

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#55137

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
> Στις 1/10/2013 1:28 πμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
>>
>> On 30/09/2013 23:19, Νίκος wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 2 dickheads names Joe & Mark work together to achieve total bullshit!
>>> Well done Beavis & Butthead!
>>> rofl...
>>>
>>
>> Well aside from the fact that you've maintained your record by being
>> inaccurate with 50% of the names that you've quoted, it appears that
>> we've something that has very much in common with your website.  Which
>> reminds me, is it still possible to access your users' names and
>> passwords in plain text or is that something that you've actually
>> bothered to fix?
>
>
> Nope, it isn't. I have fixed it.

And this doesn't bother you???!?

Nikos, industry best practice is to make sure people can't steal all
your users' passwords *even if they get access to your hard drive*.
Passwords should be stored like this:

"92e25cf5beefd4982cedd2f28b430e0e9d23e0966ee3f20c74f825ebeeee9842"

That's the password "qwer", on an account named "asdf", on a mythical
system. Even knowing that, you can't work out what another password
means. Storing people's passwords in plain text is a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE
idea - and having them accessible to the world is a sign of a complete
and utter lack of any semblance of security.

I understand that bugs happen. But bugs of this criticality should be
your very highest priority... unless you're not actually in business
here, and you're just scamming a bunch of people by pretending you run
a legit enterprise.

ChrisA

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#55138

Στις 1/10/2013 1:43 πμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε:
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Στις 1/10/2013 1:28 πμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
>>>
>>> On 30/09/2013 23:19, Νίκος wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2 dickheads names Joe & Mark work together to achieve total bullshit!
>>>> Well done Beavis & Butthead!
>>>> rofl...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well aside from the fact that you've maintained your record by being
>>> inaccurate with 50% of the names that you've quoted, it appears that
>>> we've something that has very much in common with your website.  Which
>>> reminds me, is it still possible to access your users' names and
>>> passwords in plain text or is that something that you've actually
>>> bothered to fix?
>>
>>
>> Nope, it isn't. I have fixed it.
>
> And this doesn't bother you???!?
>
> Nikos, industry best practice is to make sure people can't steal all
> your users' passwords *even if they get access to your hard drive*.
> Passwords should be stored like this:
>
> "92e25cf5beefd4982cedd2f28b430e0e9d23e0966ee3f20c74f825ebeeee9842"
>
> That's the password "qwer", on an account named "asdf", on a mythical
> system. Even knowing that, you can't work out what another password
> means. Storing people's passwords in plain text is a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE
> idea - and having them accessible to the world is a sign of a complete
> and utter lack of any semblance of security.
>
> I understand that bugs happen. But bugs of this criticality should be
> your very highest priority... unless you're not actually in business
> here, and you're just scamming a bunch of people by pretending you run
> a legit enterprise.
>
> ChrisA
>
I don't have the security awareness you have, but i'am learnign at the 
process.

What maked you think i store peoples password in plain text?

All the user account passwords i set i do it via cPanel or via WHM.

How those services store the password in the linux server its up to them.

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#55144

On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 01:08:41 +0300, Νίκος wrote:

> stfu dickhead.


And you're back in the kill-file.

*plonk*



-- 
Steven

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#55121

On 30/09/2013 22:34, Νίκος wrote:
> Στις 30/9/2013 11:44 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
>> On 30/09/2013 21:13, Νίκος wrote:
>>> And you are a major asshole leading this list, who is doing nothing else
>>> than critizizing others people's posts, spamming all he way along while
>>> contributing negatively only.
>>>
>>
>> Really? http://code.activestate.com/lists/python-list/651611/
>
> One positive comment in the history opposes 10^2 negative ones.
>

Yet more sheer unadulterated rubbish from an imbecile who clearly hasn't 
got the faintest idea what he's talking about.  Would you please be kind 
enough to stand up, your voice is rather muffled.  That is after you've 
done a proper statistical analysis of the number of positive posts I've 
made over the years.  You are actually one of the very few people who 
has managed to get quite so far up my nose, that's quite an achievement 
as by nature I'm actually extremely tolerant.

-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence

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