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  Python IDE/text-editor Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 13:20 +1000
    Re: Python IDE/text-editor Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-16 13:32 +1000
      Re: Python IDE/text-editor John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> - 2011-04-16 00:29 -0500
        Re: Python IDE/text-editor Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 15:43 +1000
          Re: Python IDE/text-editor harrismh777 <harrismh777@charter.net> - 2011-04-16 00:55 -0500
            Re: Python IDE/text-editor Algis Kabaila <akabaila@pcug.org.au> - 2011-04-16 17:18 +1000
          Re: Python IDE/text-editor CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2011-04-15 23:31 -0700
            Re: Python IDE/text-editor Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 17:03 +1000
            Re: Python IDE/text-editor Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-04-16 13:05 -0400
              Re: Python IDE/text-editor harrismh777 <harrismh777@charter.net> - 2011-04-18 02:12 -0500
          Re: Python IDE/text-editor Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-16 17:17 +1000
            Re: Python IDE/text-editor Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2011-04-16 06:35 -0500
          Re: Python IDE/text-editor Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2011-04-16 10:59 +0000
            Re: Python IDE/text-editor John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> - 2011-04-16 08:07 -0500
              Re: Python IDE/text-editor flebber <flebber.crue@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 06:45 -0700
            Re: Python IDE/text-editor Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2011-04-18 06:31 +1000
          Re: Python IDE/text-editor John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> - 2011-04-16 08:04 -0500
            Re: Python IDE/text-editor Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@whitemice.org> - 2011-04-16 09:50 -0400
              Re: Python IDE/text-editor candide <candide@free.invalid> - 2011-04-16 22:12 +0200
                Re: Python IDE/text-editor John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> - 2011-04-16 17:14 -0500
                  Re: Python IDE/text-editor Westley Martínez <anikom15@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 15:31 -0700
                  Re: Python IDE/text-editor Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-04-17 09:08 +1000
                    Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor) Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2011-04-17 11:13 +0200
                      Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-04-17 19:39 +1000
                        Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor) Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2011-04-18 10:15 +0200
                          Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 18:33 +1000
                            Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor) flebber <flebber.crue@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 02:59 -0700
                      Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor) JussiJ <jussij@zeusedit.com> - 2011-05-23 22:19 -0700
                  Re: Python IDE/text-editor Westley Martínez <anikom15@gmail.com> - 2011-04-17 13:13 -0700
                  Re: Python IDE/text-editor egbert <egbertum@xs4all.nl> - 2011-04-17 22:51 +0200
          Re: Python IDE/text-editor flebber <flebber.crue@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 06:40 -0700
            Re: Python IDE/text-editor Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@whitemice.org> - 2011-04-16 09:52 -0400
        Re: Python IDE/text-editor Daniel Kluev <dan.kluev@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 20:18 +1100
          Re: Python IDE/text-editor jacek2v <jacek2v@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 02:32 -0700
            Re: Python IDE/text-editor TP <wingusr@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 07:24 -0700
          Re: Python IDE/text-editor Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-16 19:58 +1000
        Re: Python IDE/text-editor Vlastimil Brom <vlastimil.brom@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 13:48 +0200
    Re: Python IDE/text-editor rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-04-15 21:12 -0700
    Re: Python IDE/text-editor TerrorBite Lion <terrorbite@lethargiclion.net> - 2011-04-15 21:36 -0700
    Re: Python IDE/text-editor jmfauth <wxjmfauth@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 00:02 -0700
    Re: Python IDE/text-editor Ton van Vliet <sheep.in.herd@green.meadow> - 2011-04-18 13:08 +0200
      Re: Python IDE/text-editor Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 00:40 +1000
        Re: Python IDE/text-editor Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2011-04-19 06:51 +0300
          Re: Python IDE/text-editor Westley Martínez <anikom15@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 21:17 -0700
            Re: Python IDE/text-editor rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 21:37 -0700
              Re: Python IDE/text-editor Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 14:44 +1000
                Re: Python IDE/text-editor rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 22:00 -0700
            Re: Python IDE/text-editor Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2011-04-20 15:40 +0300
              Re: Python IDE/text-editor Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@gmail.com> - 2011-04-27 16:10 +1000
                Re: Python IDE/text-editor Stefaan Himpe <stefaan.himpe@gmail.com> - 2011-04-27 20:28 +0200
        Re: Python IDE/text-editor Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2011-04-28 16:21 +0000
          Re: Python IDE/text-editor Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@gmail.com> - 2011-04-29 03:03 +1000
          Re: Python IDE/text-editor Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@gmail.com> - 2011-05-02 01:47 +1000
      Re: Python IDE/text-editor Andrea Crotti <andrea.crotti.0@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 17:23 +0200
      Re: Python IDE/text-editor Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 02:41 +1000
      Re: Python IDE/text-editor Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 13:44 +1000
        Re: Python IDE/text-editor Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-19 14:32 +1000
          Re: Python IDE/text-editor rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 21:40 -0700
      Re: Python IDE/text-editor Vlastimil Brom <vlastimil.brom@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 12:19 +0200
    Re: Python IDE/text-editor JussiJ <jussij@zeusedit.com> - 2011-05-05 21:39 -0700
      Re: Python IDE/text-editor Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@gmail.com> - 2011-05-07 00:55 +1000
      Re: Python IDE/text-editor "emato" <emato@nothere.tampabay.com> - 2011-05-07 14:29 -0400
        Re: Python IDE/text-editor Matty Sarro <msarro@gmail.com> - 2011-05-08 07:52 -0400
    Re: Python IDE/text-editor Mali Laurent <i.m.laurent@gmail.com> - 2011-05-08 21:31 -0700

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#3353

On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 17:14 -0500, John Bokma wrote:
> candide <candide@free.invalid> writes:
> 
> > Le 16/04/2011 15:50, Adam Tauno Williams a écrit :
> >
> >> gedit provides a Python interpreter/console 'embedded' in the GUI
> >> (provided the plugin is enabled).
> >>
> >
> >
> > I agree, cf. this screenshot  :
> >
> > http://i52.tinypic.com/snj7a0.jpg
> 
> The name "Terminal" suggests something different, and that can be
> achieved in Emacs as well. Just split a window vertical & horizontal,
> enable tabbar-mode[1], and open a shell in the bottom one, overview of the
> buffers to the left, and your hello_world.py to the top right.
> 
> [1] which is part of the Emacs version I am using, I just learned.
> 
> -- 
> John Bokma                                                               j3b
> 
> Blog: http://johnbokma.com/    Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/j.j.j.bokma
>     Freelance Perl & Python Development: http://castleamber.com/

Either way doesn't it require python be installed on the system?

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#3355

On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Westley Martínez <anikom15@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Either way doesn't it require python be installed on the system?

Most Python development is going to require that...

I'm rather puzzled by this question; I think I've misunderstood it.
You can't run Python programs without a Python interpreter installed.

Chris Angelico

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#3383 — Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

> You can't run Python programs without a Python interpreter installed.

Wrong.

See e.g. http://www.portablepython.com/

BTW: Imho, the Python interpreter should be made
"portable" ("zero-install") _by default_. "Installing" it should be
purely optional.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang Keller

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#3384 — Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> wrote:
>> You can't run Python programs without a Python interpreter installed.
>
> Wrong.
>
> See e.g. http://www.portablepython.com/

Uhm... how does that disprove? Whatever language you distributed code
is in, you need something on the computer that can read it. Only pure
machine code needs no interpreter (and even that's arguable, but the
interpreter is in hardware instead of software). With code that's
distributed in source form (all interpreted / shell languages, plus
most open source C/C++ code today), you need to have a
language-specific interpreter or compiler before you can run it.

Chris Angelico

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#3471 — Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

> >> You can't run Python programs without a Python interpreter
> >> installed.
> >
> > Wrong.
> >
> > See e.g. http://www.portablepython.com/
> 
> Uhm... how does that disprove? 

Which part of the word "installed" don't you understand while actually
using it? >;->

> Whatever language you distributed code
> is in, you need something on the computer that can read it. 

The point is that you don't need to _install_ it. If the developer has
a brain.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

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#3474 — Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> wrote:
> Which part of the word "installed" don't you understand while actually
> using it? >;->

I have various programs which I distribute in zip/tgz format, and also
as a self-extracting executable on Windows. Does this mean they need
to be "installed" only under Windows? No. They need to be installed to
be run, it's just that the installer is unzip or tar.

(FYI, we "installed" a new minister in the church's manse a few weeks
ago. Didn't involve anything more than a mv.)

Chris Angelico

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#3480 — Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

On Apr 18, 6:33 pm, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Wolfgang Keller <felip...@gmx.net> wrote:
> > Which part of the word "installed" don't you understand while actually
> > using it? >;->
>
> I have various programs which I distribute in zip/tgz format, and also
> as a self-extracting executable on Windows. Does this mean they need
> to be "installed" only under Windows? No. They need to be installed to
> be run, it's just that the installer is unzip or tar.
>
> (FYI, we "installed" a new minister in the church's manse a few weeks
> ago. Didn't involve anything more than a mv.)
>
> Chris Angelico

WTF
>it's just that the installer is unzip or tar.
If I take my clothes out of my luggage bag have i just installed them?
Don't think so unless your new minister is wearing them lol.

Sayth

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#6114 — Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

On Apr 17, 7:13 pm, Wolfgang Keller <felip...@gmx.net> wrote:

> > You can't run Python programs without a Python interpreter installed.
>
> Wrong.
>
> See e.g.http://www.portablepython.com/

In this case Python is still installed on the machine.

It may not be installled on the PC's hard disk but it is certainly
is installed on the USB stick.

In other words the act of inserting the USB actually results in
the software being 'Installed' (i.e. being made available) on
the PC.

Jussi

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#3426

On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 09:08 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Westley Martínez <anikom15@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Either way doesn't it require python be installed on the system?
> 
> Most Python development is going to require that...
> 
> I'm rather puzzled by this question; I think I've misunderstood it.
> You can't run Python programs without a Python interpreter installed.
> 
> Chris Angelico

Didn't the OP ask for a portable system, i.e. you can carry everything
around on a flash drive and pop it into any computer? Or is he just
asking that the editor be portable?

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#3430

In http://docs.python.org/using/unix.html#editors
you can read:
Geany is an excellent IDE with support for a lot of languages.
For more information, read: http://geany.uvena.de/

I followed that suggestion, and am very happy with Geany.
But I confess that I am not a sophisticated user.

Why does nobody mention Geany ?
e
-- 
Egbert Bouwman - Keizersgracht 197 II - 1016 DS  Amsterdam - 020 6257991
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#3319

On Apr 16, 3:43 pm, Alec Taylor <alec.tayl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, but non of the IDEs so far suggested have an embedded python
> interpreter AND tabs... a few of the editors (such as Editra) have
> really nice interfaces, however are missing the embedded
> interpreter... emacs having the opposite problem, missing tabs (also,
> selecting text with my mouse is something I do often).
>
> Please continue your recommendations.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alec Taylor
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 3:29 PM, John Bokma <j...@castleamber.com> wrote:
> > Ben Finney <ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au> writes:
>
> >> Alec Taylor <alec.tayl...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> >>> I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting,
> >>> code-completion, tabs, an embedded interpreter and which is portable
> >>> (for running from USB on Windows).
>
> >> Either of Emacs <URL:http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/> or Vim
> >> <URL:http://www.vim.org/> are excellent general-purpose editors that
> >> have strong features for programmers of any popular language or text
> >> format.
>
> > I second Emacs or vim. I currently use Emacs the most, but I think it's
> > good to learn both.
>
> > --
> > John Bokma                                                               j3b
>
> > Blog:http://johnbokma.com/   Facebook:http://www.facebook.com/j.j.j.bokma
> >    Freelance Perl & Python Development:http://castleamber.com/
> > --
> >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Editra via shelf has an imbedded interpreter, editra is also working
towards a new python tools plugin that will allow you to change
interpreter jython/python2.7/python3.2 etc.

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#3322

On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 06:40 -0700, flebber wrote:
> On Apr 16, 3:43 pm, Alec Taylor <alec.tayl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks, but non of the IDEs so far suggested have an embedded python
> > interpreter AND tabs... a few of the editors (such as Editra) have
> > really nice interfaces, however are missing the embedded
> > interpreter... emacs having the opposite problem, missing tabs (also,
> > selecting text with my mouse is something I do often).
> > Please continue your recommendations.

I do most of my coding in Monodevelop, which has good support for Python
[not to mention being a full IDE platform with database browser support,
etc...]

<http://monodevelop.com/>

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#3306

On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, but non of the IDEs so far suggested have an embedded python
> interpreter AND tabs... a few of the editors (such as Editra) have
> really nice interfaces, however are missing the embedded
> interpreter... emacs having the opposite problem, missing tabs (also,
> selecting text with my mouse is something I do often).
>
> Please continue your recommendations.

WingIDE has all that and much more, if you are willing to consider
non-free IDE.
Its multi-threading debugger definitely worth the cost of Pro version for me.

-- 
With best regards,
Daniel Kluev

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#3307

On Apr 16, 11:18 am, Daniel Kluev <dan.kl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Please continue your recommendations.
>
> WingIDE has all that and much more, if you are willing to consider
> non-free IDE.
> Its multi-threading debugger definitely worth the cost of Pro version for me.

I confirm :)

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#3325

On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 2:32 AM, jacek2v <jacek2v@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 16, 11:18 am, Daniel Kluev <dan.kl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Please continue your recommendations.
>>
>> WingIDE has all that and much more, if you are willing to consider
>> non-free IDE.
>> Its multi-threading debugger definitely worth the cost of Pro version for me.
>
> I confirm :)
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>

I normally use emacs for basic text editing, tried Komodo, Eric, and
IDLE but prefer WingIDE when writing Python code. In particular, the
debugger is really nice. (Of course I also like Visual Studio when
writing/debugging C/C++/C# so maybe I'm just weird).

A new non-free up-and-comer to consider is JetBrain's PyCharm.

And there is PyDev for Eclipse (but I personally tend to avoid Java
based programs).

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#3308

Daniel Kluev <dan.kluev@gmail.com> writes:

> […] if you are willing to consider non-free IDE.

I would advise against use of a non-free tool for one's programming,
because the tool's fate is not in the hands of the whole community of
people who use it.

When the party with privileged access to alter the tool makes a change
you don't like, or loses the budget or ability or motivation to continue
maintaining it, you have no option to get someone else to change it for
the better.

Only free software leaves its community of users free to decide what
changes will be made – and what changes will *not* be made – to the tool
over its lifetime.


Since the free-software options for programming tools are so powerful,
there is little good reason to choose non-free tools.

-- 
 \        “The difference between religions and cults is determined by |
  `\                      how much real estate is owned.” —Frank Zappa |
_o__)                                                                  |
Ben Finney

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#3314

2011/4/16 Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@gmail.com>:
> Thanks, but non of the IDEs so far suggested have an embedded python
> interpreter AND tabs... a few of the editors (such as Editra) have
> really nice interfaces, however are missing the embedded
> interpreter... emacs having the opposite problem, missing tabs (also,
> selecting text with my mouse is something I do often).
>
> Please continue your recommendations.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alec Taylor
>
Hi,
I don't use these tools regularly, but judging from your virtual
"screenshot" and featureset, e.g.
UliPad
http://code.google.com/p/ulipad/

or SPE
http://pythonide.blogspot.com/

could fit the bill.
Of course, none of these can be compared with the already suggested
heavier tools in terms of featureset or maturity, but in case you
don't want to learn that programs just now, you can try these simpler
ones to see, if they offer, what you need.

regards,
   vbr

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#3287

On Apr 16, 8:20 am, Alec Taylor <alec.tayl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Afternoon,
>
> I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting,
> code-completion, tabs, an embedded interpreter and which is portable
> (for running from USB on Windows).
>
> Here's a mockup of the app I'm looking for:http://i52.tinypic.com/2uojswz.png

As Ben suggested you can use emacs (Dunno if vi will give an embedded
interpreter)
but be prepared to have to work a bit -- it does not just work out of
the box.
In particular emacs will default to using a different python mode
(python.el) than the one that python programmers seem prefer
https://launchpad.net/python-mode/

You may also want to look at ipython

BTW how did you make that mockup?

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#3291

On Apr 15, 11:20 pm, Alec Taylor <alec.tayl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Afternoon,
>
> I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting,
> code-completion, tabs, an embedded interpreter and which is portable
> (for running from USB on Windows).
>
> Here's a mockup of the app I'm looking for:http://i52.tinypic.com/2uojswz.png
>
> Which would you recommend?
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
>
> Alec Taylor

You seem to have drawn PSPad (http://www.pspad.com/). With one
preferences change and a little bit of window rearranging, you can
make PSPad do what you want.

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#3299

On 16 avr, 05:20, Alec Taylor <alec.tayl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Afternoon,
>

...

Windows user here.

I'm using SciTE, http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html . Portable
(run on/from an usb key), output pane, ...

If you are interested in a portable Interactive Interpreter,
http://spinecho.ifrance.com/psi.html (run on/from an usb
key).

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