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| Started by | memilanuk <memilanuk@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2013-07-31 11:35 -0700 |
| Last post | 2013-08-01 10:44 +1000 |
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Using system python vs. updated/current version memilanuk <memilanuk@gmail.com> - 2013-07-31 11:35 -0700
Re: Using system python vs. updated/current version alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-08-01 10:44 +1000
| From | memilanuk <memilanuk@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-07-31 11:35 -0700 |
| Subject | Using system python vs. updated/current version |
| Message-ID | <mailman.48.1375295768.1251.python-list@python.org> |
Hello there, What would be considered the correct/best way to run a current release of python locally vs. the installed system version? On openSUSE 12.3, the repos currently have 2.7.3 and 3.3.0. As far as I know, I'm not really hitting any limitations with the existing versions - my skills just aren't that far along - so its not a burning 'need' but I'm still curious/interested in the topic. Also... in some places in the 'Net I see references to installing everything 'locally' via pip, etc. in virtualenvs and not touching the system installed version of python... yet most linux distros seem to have many/most such packages available in their package repos, which seems like it'd be easier to install via the package manager and let it keep things updated. Could someone touch on what they feel the pros and cons would be either way? Thanks, Monte
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| From | alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-08-01 10:44 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <ktcakv$fil$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #51687 |
On 1/08/2013 4:35 AM, memilanuk wrote:
> Also... in some places in the 'Net I see references to installing
> everything 'locally' via pip, etc. in virtualenvs and not touching the
> system installed version of python... yet most linux distros seem to
> have many/most such packages available in their package repos, which
> seems like it'd be easier to install via the package manager and let it
> keep things updated. Could someone touch on what they feel the pros and
> cons would be either way?
Generally, if your OS installs a version of Python by default you should
leave it alone because the OS itself is dependent on it. Updating to
newer versions of Python or installed libraries can introduce version
conflict errors in system-level apps, which is a bad thing.
Similarly, using the system install & libraries ties you to those
versions. This may not be an issue if you're just scripting a few helper
tools for your system, but it's an unnecessary hinderance if you're
developing independent applications.
Tools like virtualenv or zc.buildout provide a handy way of sandboxing
the dependencies of individual applications. They let you build more
than one app in parallel and not let the dependencies of one interfere
with the others. Of equal importance is their use in deploying to other
machines. With virtualenv, you can create a list of installed libraries
with:
pip freeze > requirements.txt
To ensure a target machine has all of the dependencies your application
needs you can then do:
pin install -r requirements.txt
So: for simple scripts, just go with the system install. For serious
development work, I highly recommend using virtualenv or zc.buildout to
contain each development environment.
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