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| Started by | StarPilgrim <aaronpil@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2012-09-09 04:03 -0700 |
| Last post | 2012-09-09 22:38 -0700 |
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Beginner Q: What does the double underscore __ mean? StarPilgrim <aaronpil@gmail.com> - 2012-09-09 04:03 -0700
Re: Beginner Q: What does the double underscore __ mean? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-09 12:23 +0100
Re: Beginner Q: What does the double underscore __ mean? Dave Angel <davea@dejaviewphoto.com> - 2012-09-09 08:39 -0400
Re: Beginner Q: What does the double underscore __ mean? hamilton <hamilton@nothere.com> - 2012-09-09 10:04 -0600
Re: Beginner Q: What does the double underscore __ mean? Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-09-09 16:54 -0400
Re: Beginner Q: What does the double underscore __ mean? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-09 22:05 +0000
Re: Beginner Q: What does the double underscore __ mean? Bryan <bryanjugglercryptographer@yahoo.com> - 2012-09-09 22:38 -0700
| From | StarPilgrim <aaronpil@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-09-09 04:03 -0700 |
| Subject | Beginner Q: What does the double underscore __ mean? |
| Message-ID | <3dcd70d0-17b5-40a4-803a-eed66639b6e7@googlegroups.com> |
Hi all, Brand new to python. I was wondering what the __ underscore means? For example, there is a line of code: __name__=='__main__' and I don't know what the double underscore is used for.
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-09-09 12:23 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.415.1347189902.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #28763 |
On 09/09/2012 12:03, StarPilgrim wrote: > Hi all, > Brand new to python. I was wondering what the __ underscore means? > For example, there is a line of code: > > __name__=='__main__' > > > and I don't know what the double underscore is used for. > Start here http://docs.python.org/reference/datamodel.html#specialnames -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.
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| From | Dave Angel <davea@dejaviewphoto.com> |
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| Date | 2012-09-09 08:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.416.1347194363.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #28763 |
See the identical thread you posted on tutor, where it was a better match. -- DaveA
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| From | hamilton <hamilton@nothere.com> |
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| Date | 2012-09-09 10:04 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <k2iem2$jes$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #28767 |
On 9/9/2012 6:39 AM, Dave Angel wrote: > See the identical thread you posted on tutor, where it was a better match. > > > Would you please post that link for those of us that did not see that one. Thanks
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| From | Dave Angel <d@davea.name> |
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| Date | 2012-09-09 16:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.428.1347224127.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #28785 |
On 09/09/2012 12:04 PM, hamilton wrote: > On 9/9/2012 6:39 AM, Dave Angel wrote: >> See the identical thread you posted on tutor, where it was a better >> match. >> >> >> > Would you please post that link for those of us that did not see that > one. > > Thanks > it's a mailing list. There's no links to the mail in my folder. Googling shows me: http://code.activestate.com/lists/python-tutor/90564/ -- DaveA
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2012-09-09 22:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <504d12c4$0$29890$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #28785 |
On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 10:04:18 -0600, hamilton wrote: > On 9/9/2012 6:39 AM, Dave Angel wrote: >> See the identical thread you posted on tutor, where it was a better >> match. >> >> >> > Would you please post that link for those of us that did not see that > one. http://mail.python.org/pipermail/tutor/2012-September/091388.html You can see the tutor archives, or subscribe to the list, from here: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor -- Steven
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| From | Bryan <bryanjugglercryptographer@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2012-09-09 22:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0cd34f31-6b7d-4ff2-b9dd-e711b1f88963@j2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #28763 |
StarPilgrim wrote: > Brand new to python. I was wondering what the __ underscore means? > For example, there is a line of code: > > __name__=='__main__' > > and I don't know what the double underscore is used for. Ah, tricky. That's not just double underscore; it's double ended double underscore. Double ended double underscore means that it invokes special behavior in the Python language. It means fair warning. Look this up. Never name your own variables with double ended double underscore. The one exception is if you are proposing a change to the Python language and seeking the blessing of our BDFL. Such names are reserved for the Python language. Leading double underscore without trailing double underscore means that the programmer knows and loves some other object-oriented language, and this other language has a notion of trying to enforce that this member variable is "private", and Python is meeting him half way. The programmer of the class advises you not to manipulate this member variable directly and Python has bowed to convention and done some name mangling. It's often useful, usually naive, fundamentally insecure, and tangential to the zen Python. A lesser known Python convention is the double ended single underscore. Whether it even rates as convention might be arguable, but it's there in the critical _fields_ member of the Structure and Union base classes in the standard ctypes module. It means special within the particular class. To the Python language it's just another name, but the authors of the class have coded it to look up that name and do something interesting with the associated value. -Bryan
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