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| Started by | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| First post | 2013-06-29 18:00 +0100 |
| Last post | 2013-07-03 00:22 +0000 |
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Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-06-29 18:00 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-06-30 20:24 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2013-06-30 20:58 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-06-30 23:14 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2013-06-30 21:36 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-01 08:23 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-01 10:52 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-01 10:54 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-01 12:05 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-01 11:32 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-01 12:37 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-01 14:28 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-01 16:22 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-07-02 12:44 +1000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> - 2013-07-01 10:31 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-01 12:46 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-01 14:44 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> - 2013-07-01 11:07 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-01 12:43 +0000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-01 15:08 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-01 15:33 +0000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-01 21:18 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-07-01 23:14 +0000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-01 20:32 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-02 09:25 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-01 16:28 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Andrew Berg <robotsondrugs@gmail.com> - 2013-07-01 08:45 -0500
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-01 15:34 +0000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-01 08:49 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-01 17:56 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-01 20:15 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-01 18:26 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-01 11:29 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-01 20:16 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-01 12:29 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-01 21:12 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-01 20:28 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-02 09:22 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-02 10:34 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-02 14:01 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-02 14:40 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-02 06:48 -0700
OT Plague [was Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-03 02:37 +0000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2013-07-03 08:34 +1000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-07-02 17:30 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-03 01:24 +0000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-07-03 10:08 -0700
Whatever happened to the Effbot? [was Re: python adds an etc] alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 11:16 +1000
Re: Whatever happened to the Effbot? [was Re: python adds an etc] Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-07-03 20:31 -0500
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-03 11:21 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-07-03 10:11 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-04 14:09 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-07-05 15:40 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-08 10:19 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-03 19:45 +1000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-03 13:00 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list feedthetroll@gmx.de - 2013-07-03 07:12 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> - 2013-07-03 16:21 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-03 10:00 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list feedthetroll@gmx.de - 2013-07-04 01:24 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-07-03 10:01 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-03 11:08 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-03 18:29 +0000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-07-03 12:18 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-04 03:08 +0000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2013-07-04 10:53 +1000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 02:08 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-03 20:07 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-07-03 22:44 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 08:57 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list feedthetroll@gmx.de - 2013-07-04 01:50 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-07-05 15:42 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 00:44 +1000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-03 18:36 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 01:44 +1000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-03 19:47 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 02:53 +1000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-03 20:07 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 03:23 +1000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-03 20:50 +0300
Fwd: Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 13:06 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> - 2013-07-03 17:42 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-03 20:10 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-03 05:31 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 00:37 +1000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-03 12:04 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-03 00:18 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-07-02 18:21 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 00:12 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-07-03 18:56 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 00:40 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-04 13:19 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 02:58 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2013-07-03 10:36 +1000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-03 01:51 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-03 12:01 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-01 19:27 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-01 19:36 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-06-30 22:57 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2013-06-30 23:13 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-01 08:37 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-01 10:55 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-01 10:56 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> - 2013-07-01 14:01 +0000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-01 08:00 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-07-01 15:06 +0000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-01 21:34 -0700
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-02 06:32 +0100
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-02 07:14 +0000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-07-02 18:59 -0400
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> - 2013-07-02 19:06 +0000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-01 19:33 +0300
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-01 20:42 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-01 22:12 +0000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-02 09:55 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-02 17:59 +1000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-07-01 23:17 +0000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-02 08:54 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-07-02 01:43 -0600
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-07-02 10:16 +0200
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-07-02 12:53 +0000
Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-03 00:22 +0000
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2013-06-29 18:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list |
| Message-ID | <mailman.3999.1372525218.3114.python-list@python.org> |
On 29/06/2013 17:05, Joshua Landau wrote: > On 29 June 2013 03:07, charles benoit <feather.duster.kung.fu@gmail.com> wrote: > <STUFF> > > 1) You haven't asked a question. > > 2) You posted your code twice. That makes it look a lot harder and > longer than it really is. > > 3) Give us a *minimal* reproducible test case. I currently just get: > > %~> python2 /tmp/nd.py > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/tmp/nd.py", line 12, in <module> > finale_line2=finale_line > NameError: name 'finale_line' is not defined > > This isn't the only problem. > > In other words, you've given us an unsolvable problem. Try again. > Why this when the approach to Nick the Incompetant Greek has been to roll out the red carpet? -- "Steve is going for the pink ball - and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence
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| From | Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> |
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| Date | 2013-06-30 20:24 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <kqpplb$2rp$1@news.grnet.gr> |
| In reply to | #49434 |
Στις 29/6/2013 8:00 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε: > Why this when the approach to Nick the Incompetant Greek has been to > roll out the red carpet? Your mother is incompetent who raised a brat like you. -- What is now proved was at first only imagined!
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| From | Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-30 20:58 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.4042.1372622329.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #49499 |
On 2013-06-30 18:24, Νίκος wrote: > Στις 29/6/2013 8:00 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε: > >> Why this when the approach to Nick the Incompetant Greek has been to >> roll out the red carpet? > > Your mother is incompetent who raised a brat like you. That is not acceptable behavior on this list. Please keep the gratuitous insults offlist. -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." -- Umberto Eco
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| From | Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> |
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| Date | 2013-06-30 23:14 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <kqq3j4$v6v$1@news.grnet.gr> |
| In reply to | #49513 |
Στις 30/6/2013 10:58 μμ, ο/η Robert Kern έγραψε: > On 2013-06-30 18:24, Νίκος wrote: >> Στις 29/6/2013 8:00 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε: >> >>> Why this when the approach to Nick the Incompetant Greek has been to >>> roll out the red carpet? >> >> Your mother is incompetent who raised a brat like you. > > That is not acceptable behavior on this list. Please keep the gratuitous > insults offlist. > Ι'm sorry but please put yourself into my shows, where in multiple threads i'm still discussed and being insulted as a troll and as an idiot and incompetent and stuff like that by lots of people who instead of actually replying to my posts they deviate and have endless conversation about me. Enough is enough. Iam not a troll, neither incompetent. Period. -- What is now proved was at first only imagined!
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| From | Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-30 21:36 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.4043.1372624584.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #49514 |
On 2013-06-30 21:14, Νίκος wrote: > Στις 30/6/2013 10:58 μμ, ο/η Robert Kern έγραψε: >> On 2013-06-30 18:24, Νίκος wrote: >>> Στις 29/6/2013 8:00 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε: >>> >>>> Why this when the approach to Nick the Incompetant Greek has been to >>>> roll out the red carpet? >>> >>> Your mother is incompetent who raised a brat like you. >> >> That is not acceptable behavior on this list. Please keep the gratuitous >> insults offlist. >> > Ι'm sorry but please put yourself into my shows, where in multiple threads i'm > still discussed and being insulted as a troll and as an idiot and incompetent > and stuff like that by lots of people who instead of actually replying to my > posts they deviate and have endless conversation about me. > > Enough is enough. Iam not a troll, neither incompetent. Period. You may ask people to stop their insulting comments. Do not engage by returning insults yourself. Not on the list at least. I don't care what you send by private email. -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." -- Umberto Eco
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| From | Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> |
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| Date | 2013-07-01 08:23 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.4049.1372659832.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #49514 |
Op 30-06-13 22:14, Νίκος schreef: > Στις 30/6/2013 10:58 μμ, ο/η Robert Kern έγραψε: >> On 2013-06-30 18:24, Νίκος wrote: >>> Στις 29/6/2013 8:00 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε: >>> >>>> Why this when the approach to Nick the Incompetant Greek has been to >>>> roll out the red carpet? >>> >>> Your mother is incompetent who raised a brat like you. >> >> That is not acceptable behavior on this list. Please keep the gratuitous >> insults offlist. >> > Ι'm sorry but please put yourself into my shows, Why should we? You, yourself have shown no willingness to put yourself in the shoes of others. When it was pointed out your behaviour was unacceptable, you continued just the same with no consideration of how much you were antagonising the members of this group. > where in multiple > threads i'm still discussed and being insulted as a troll and as an > idiot and incompetent and stuff like that by lots of people who instead > of actually replying to my posts they deviate and have endless > conversation about me. What did you expect? That you could just keep asking to be helped in obnoxious ways without people commenting on that? > Enough is enough. Iam not a troll, neither incompetent. Period. No not period. You have by your behaviour made yourself a reputation of being an incompetent inconsiderate jerk. You don't lose such a repuation by simply claiming you are not. -- Antoon Pardon
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| From | Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> |
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| Date | 2013-07-01 10:52 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <kqrcft$pj8$1@news.grnet.gr> |
| In reply to | #49524 |
Στις 1/7/2013 9:23 πμ, ο/η Antoon Pardon έγραψε: >> Enough is enough. Iam not a troll, neither incompetent. Period. > > No not period. You have by your behaviour made yourself a reputation > of being an incompetent inconsiderate jerk. You don't lose such a > repuation by simply claiming you are not. Being a newbie doesn't mean that i'm incompetent jerk. All i did was asking for help for issues i couldn't solve. That what everybody would do if he couldn't help himself solve something. You on the other hand never care to reply to any of my questions(so it was in someway justified for you to say i didn't follow your advice), but instead you seem to be willing to judge endlessly for the help i receive from others. You are continuously spamming the list and my threads with arguments of trolling or not trolling instead of being helpful. I as well as others are fed up seeing you post about me. Its over 2 weeks now and you still fight of whether i'm trolling or not. So shut your piehole and start proving yourself useful in this list. Or sod off. Preferably do the latter. -- What is now proved was at first only imagined!
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| From | Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> |
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| Date | 2013-07-01 10:54 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.4055.1372668869.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #49529 |
Op 01-07-13 09:52, Νίκος schreef: > Στις 1/7/2013 9:23 πμ, ο/η Antoon Pardon έγραψε: >>> Enough is enough. Iam not a troll, neither incompetent. Period. >> >> No not period. You have by your behaviour made yourself a reputation >> of being an incompetent inconsiderate jerk. You don't lose such a >> repuation by simply claiming you are not. > > Being a newbie doesn't mean that i'm incompetent jerk. That is true. You'll notice I don't judge all newbies as incompetent jerks. Just you > > All i did was asking for help for issues i couldn't solve. > That what everybody would do if he couldn't help himself solve something. You can try to frame what you did as an innocent newbie asking questions but that is not what happened. What happened is that you started a project on which other people relied that was way over your head. That makes you more than just a newbie that makes you incompetent. When you then started to get into trouble you didn't just ask questions, you almost demanded that people would fix your problems for you, bumping a thread within a few hours if you didn't get an answer within that time. That and similar behaviour makes you a jerk. > > You on the other hand never care to reply to any of my questions(so it > was in someway justified for you to say i didn't follow your advice), > but instead you seem to be willing to judge endlessly for the help i > receive from others. I am not judging you for the you receive. I am judging you for behaving liken an asshole and trying to deny it. > > You are continuously spamming the list and my threads with arguments > of trolling or not trolling instead of being helpful. > > I as well as others are fed up seeing you post about me. Its over 2 > weeks now and you still fight of whether i'm trolling or not. And it probably becomes longer. If you don't want this to fester, you'd better stop denying that you were behaving like an incompetent inconsiderate jerk. People can forget and forgive jerky behaviour but they don't tend to when they see the other denying he was behaving like a jerk. Because they then expect more of that kind of behaviour. > So shut your piehole and start proving yourself useful in this list. > Or sod off. > Preferably do the latter. Oh we do have illusions of grandeur, don't we? You are in no position to judge who is useful on this list or not. -- Antoon Pardon
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| From | Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> |
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| Date | 2013-07-01 12:05 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <kqrgpb$fba$1@news.grnet.gr> |
| In reply to | #49532 |
Στις 1/7/2013 11:54 πμ, ο/η Antoon Pardon έγραψε: >> So shut your piehole and start proving yourself useful in this list. >> Or sod off. >> Preferably do the latter. > Oh we do have illusions of grandeur, don't we? You are in no position > to judge who is useful on this list or not. I'am not waste any more time explaining my self to you since you have already made up your mind and you refuse to believe that ni was actually trying to solve my problems first and then asked and then tried to apply the solutions, which in my my 2 last problems i was the one who actually solve the problem. Its easier to say to you "fuck off retard". -- What is now proved was at first only imagined!
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| From | Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> |
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| Date | 2013-07-01 11:32 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.4059.1372671163.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #49534 |
Op 01-07-13 11:05, Νίκος schreef: > Στις 1/7/2013 11:54 πμ, ο/η Antoon Pardon έγραψε: >>> So shut your piehole and start proving yourself useful in this list. >>> Or sod off. >>> Preferably do the latter. >> Oh we do have illusions of grandeur, don't we? You are in no position >> to judge who is useful on this list or not. > > I'am not waste any more time explaining my self to you since you have > already made up your mind and you refuse to believe that ni was > actually trying to solve my problems first and then asked and then > tried to apply the solutions, which in my my 2 last problems i was the > one who actually solve the problem. The above is a first class illustration of why I think you are problematic. We don't want you to explain yourself, we want you to change your behaviour. Someone behaving like a jerk explaining himself is still behaving like a jerk and the explanation is just a method for avoiding changing the behaviour. It doesn't matter that you tried to solve your problem first. Accepting that you were, you were still acting like a jerk when you bumped the thread after only a few hours. > Its easier to say to you "fuck off retard". Indeed that is much easier than trying to change your behaviour in order to no longer behave like a jerk. -- Antoon Pardon
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| From | Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> |
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| Date | 2013-07-01 12:37 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <kqrilk$fba$2@news.grnet.gr> |
| In reply to | #49538 |
Στις 1/7/2013 12:32 μμ, ο/η Antoon Pardon έγραψε: > Op 01-07-13 11:05, Νίκος schreef: >> Στις 1/7/2013 11:54 πμ, ο/η Antoon Pardon έγραψε: >>>> So shut your piehole and start proving yourself useful in this list. >>>> Or sod off. >>>> Preferably do the latter. >>> Oh we do have illusions of grandeur, don't we? You are in no position >>> to judge who is useful on this list or not. >> >> I'am not waste any more time explaining my self to you since you have >> already made up your mind and you refuse to believe that ni was >> actually trying to solve my problems first and then asked and then >> tried to apply the solutions, which in my my 2 last problems i was the >> one who actually solve the problem. > > The above is a first class illustration of why I think you are > problematic. We don't want you to explain yourself, we want > you to change your behaviour. Someone behaving like a jerk > explaining himself is still behaving like a jerk and the > explanation is just a method for avoiding changing the > behaviour. Change what dickhead? What behavior? The behavior which you think its problematic? Maybe you should change your perception of understanding things. I dont expect anyone to solve my problems, iam happy if they point me to a direction which i can solve it myself, that what the list is about. > It doesn't matter that you tried to solve your problem first. > Accepting that you were, you were still acting like a jerk > when you bumped the thread after only a few hours. > >> Its easier to say to you "fuck off retard". > > Indeed that is much easier than trying to change your behaviour > in order to no longer behave like a jerk. Did i told you to fuck off? Well never mind. Fuck off! -- What is now proved was at first only imagined!
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| From | Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> |
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| Date | 2013-07-01 14:28 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.4066.1372681684.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #49539 |
Op 01-07-13 11:37, Νίκος schreef: > Στις 1/7/2013 12:32 μμ, ο/η Antoon Pardon έγραψε: >> >> The above is a first class illustration of why I think you are >> problematic. We don't want you to explain yourself, we want >> you to change your behaviour. Someone behaving like a jerk >> explaining himself is still behaving like a jerk and the >> explanation is just a method for avoiding changing the >> behaviour. > > Change what dickhead? What behavior? > The behavior which you think its problematic? You are goin to play the ignorance card now? You are going to pretend it is just me and ignore all those others who made remarks about particular behaviour of you being annoying and unacceptable. I gave a specific answer, you bumping threads are only a few hours. You could have acknowledge that indeed you have been doing that and that you understand that it is annoying to others and you could have made it clear you intended to be more patient in the future. That could have been the beginning of you gaining again some good will from members of the group. Instead you chose to be a jerk about it. Pretending that the multiple remarks you have received about this behaviour didn't happen. > Maybe you should change your perception of understanding things. Why should I. From the people with whom I discussed your behaviour, a lot disputed you were a troll, but none disputed you were behaving like an asshole. Yes even those who were willing to further help you agreed that your behaviour was problematic. > > I dont expect anyone to solve my problems, iam happy if they point me > to a direction which i can solve it myself, that what the list is about. Sure, you just play the impatient jerk, who bumps threads and asks the same question again after people have pointed you in a direction. > > Did i told you to fuck off? Well never mind. Fuck off! > I think this needs some work. You need more creativity. Try to think of something more forceful. My little niece of 10 can do better than that. -- Antoon Pardon
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| From | Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> |
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| Date | 2013-07-01 16:22 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <kqrvq1$ir0$1@news.grnet.gr> |
| In reply to | #49553 |
Στις 1/7/2013 3:28 μμ, ο/η Antoon Pardon έγραψε: >> Did i told you to fuck off? Well never mind. Fuck off! > I think this needs some work. You need more creativity. > Try to think of something more forceful. My little niece > of 10 can do better than that. Well i could, but i don't want to spend my time and creativitism on assholes like yourself. So, here it is again, plain and simple. FUCK OFF! -- What is now proved was at first only imagined!
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| From | alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-07-02 12:44 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <kqtegs$4dl$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #49539 |
On 1/07/2013 7:37 PM, Νίκος wrote: > I dont expect anyone to solve my problems, This is not consistent with the number of "HELP ME I BROKE MY BUSINESS" posts you've made. > iam happy if they point me to > a direction which i can solve it myself This is not consistent with your repeated claim that you prefer people to explain things to you rather than read documentation.
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| From | Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-07-01 10:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.4060.1372671541.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #49534 |
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"Νίκος" <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote: >Στις 1/7/2013 11:54 πμ, ο/η Antoon Pardon έγραψε: >>> So shut your piehole and start proving yourself useful in this list. >>> Or sod off. >>> Preferably do the latter. >> Oh we do have illusions of grandeur, don't we? You are in no position >> to judge who is useful on this list or not. > >I'am not waste any more time explaining my self to you since you have >already made up your mind and you refuse to believe that ni was >actually >trying to solve my problems first and then asked and then tried to >apply >the solutions, which in my my 2 last problems i was the one who >actually >solve the problem. > >Its easier to say to you "fuck off retard". >-- >What is now proved was at first only imagined! >-- >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list I don't know about the other members of this list but I am becoming increasingly disturbed by the rudeness and especially the foul language that is being perpetrated on this thread. Please, if you have any decency at all, continue the rest of this exchange by private email and allow python list members to continue discussing and helping each other with the python language and is adjuncts. Leave us in peace to enjoy our favoured language and let us see no more of your filth. Sent from a Galaxy far far away
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| From | Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> |
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| Date | 2013-07-01 12:46 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <kqrj6g$fba$3@news.grnet.gr> |
| In reply to | #49541 |
Στις 1/7/2013 12:31 μμ, ο/η Steve Simmons έγραψε: > I don't know about the other members of this list but I am becoming > increasingly disturbed by the rudeness and especially the foul language > that is being perpetrated on this thread. Please, if you have any > decency at all, continue the rest of this exchange by private email and > allow python list members to continue discussing and helping each other > with the python language and is adjuncts. Leave us in peace to enjoy our > favoured language and let us see no more of your filth. > > Sent from a Galaxy far far away I have kept in quite more than 2 weeks while kept reading any mail in this list especially the endless conversation and numerous name callings against me. You should know that i'm fed up reading this. If i'm provoked i will respond. it is not in my intentons to troll the list or talk dirty, but also i cannot withstand anymore people talk down to me like that, when the only thing i doid was to ask some questions, which in turn helped us all. Especially i cant stand people which never to spend 5 mins to reply, but they are devoted a couple of weeks to belittle me instead. -- What is now proved was at first only imagined!
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| From | Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> |
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| Date | 2013-07-01 14:44 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.4067.1372682682.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #49542 |
Op 01-07-13 11:46, Νίκος schreef: > Στις 1/7/2013 12:31 μμ, ο/η Steve Simmons έγραψε: > >> I don't know about the other members of this list but I am becoming >> increasingly disturbed by the rudeness and especially the foul language >> that is being perpetrated on this thread. Please, if you have any >> decency at all, continue the rest of this exchange by private email and >> allow python list members to continue discussing and helping each other >> with the python language and is adjuncts. Leave us in peace to enjoy our >> favoured language and let us see no more of your filth. >> >> Sent from a Galaxy far far away > > I have kept in quite more than 2 weeks while kept reading any mail in > this list especially the endless conversation and numerous name > callings against me. > You poor thing. A horrible two weeks of people who couldn't see the pearls of consideration you had shown and who were seeing you as somekind of asshole. > You should know that i'm fed up reading this. > If i'm provoked i will respond. Yes, because if you are fed up with how others behave, it is the fault of these others in provoking you. And of course when the others are fed of with how you behave, it is again the fault of the others because the have a faulty perception of understanding things. > it is not in my intentons to troll the list or talk dirty, but also i > cannot withstand anymore people talk down to me like that, when the > only thing i doid was to ask some questions, which in turn helped us all. Indeed it is not your intention to troll, you only want to ask questions. And if it turns out that your behaviour during the asking of these questions is very annoying, we should just shoulder the burden of that annoyance since it wasn't intended. Asking you to change your behaviour? That wouldn't be fair because you never intended to annoy. > Especially i cant stand people which never to spend 5 mins to reply, > but they are devoted a couple of weeks to belittle me instead. I can't stand people who seem to think that only people who have helped them can give valid criticism. Yet here you are. It seems we'll both have to find a way in coping. -- Antoon Pardon
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| From | Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-07-01 11:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.4103.1372749626.3114.python-list@python.org> |
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"Νίκος" <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote: >Στις 1/7/2013 12:31 μμ, ο/η Steve Simmons έγραψε: > >> I don't know about the other members of this list but I am becoming >> increasingly disturbed by the rudeness and especially the foul >language >> that is being perpetrated on this thread. Please, if you have any >> decency at all, continue the rest of this exchange by private email >and >> allow python list members to continue discussing and helping each >other >> with the python language and is adjuncts. Leave us in peace to enjoy >our >> favoured language and let us see no more of your filth. >> >> Sent from a Galaxy far far away > >I have kept in quite more than 2 weeks while kept reading any mail in >this list especially the endless conversation and numerous name >callings >against me. > >You should know that i'm fed up reading this. >If i'm provoked i will respond. >it is not in my intentons to troll the list or talk dirty, but also i >cannot withstand anymore people talk down to me like that, when the >only >thing i doid was to ask some questions, which in turn helped us all. > >Especially i cant stand people which never to spend 5 mins to reply, >but >they are devoted a couple of weeks to belittle me instead. > >-- >What is now proved was at first only imagined! >-- >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list I understand some of your frustrations, just as I understand the frustrations of those who have tried to help in spite of your sometimes poor understanding of the etiquette expected on this list. On no account do I understand or endorse your continued loutish use of bad language so I repeat my request that you move the rest of this offensive conversation onto a private channel such as email. The majority of people on this list are probably as sick of this thread as I am but choose not to challenge you. Please leave. Sent from a Galaxy far far away
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2013-07-01 12:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <51d17954$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #49529 |
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 10:52:28 +0300, Νίκος wrote: > All i did was asking for help for issues i couldn't solve. That what > everybody would do if he couldn't help himself solve something. [...] > So shut your piehole and start proving yourself useful in this list. Or > sod off. > Preferably do the latter. Enough Νίκος. If you can't be the "bigger man" and ignore other people's insults, take your flaming off-list. I don't care if you get into the mother of all flame-fests, so long as it is OFF LIST and doesn't upset this forum. If you continue to be abusive on this list, I will kill-file you and will not even see your posts, and no doubt others will do the same. It doesn't matter who started it. It doesn't matter if you're just trying to get some help. If you continue being abusive, you will lose the few allies you have left. The same goes to the Net Vigilantes trying to drive Νίκος away. I can't speak for others, but I can speak for myself, and abuse and flaming has no place in this forum, and if you continue to behave abusively, I will kill-file you too. Νίκος, I am not going to wade through this long, long thread to see what problem you are trying to solve today. I only have a limited number of hours available, and it is unfair for you to monopolise all my time. Also, sometimes I simply do not know how to solve your technical problems. I don't know everything. But I will give you a commitment: if you follow the advice here: http://sscce.org/ and come up with a short, self-contained, runnable example of the problem you are having in this thread, I commit to reading your post and making an honest effort to solve the problem by Wednesday evening (Melbourne, Australia time). The above website is written for Java programmers, but the advice holds for any language including Python. The above of course assumes that I have not kill-filed you for continuing to be abusive on-list. -- Steven
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| From | Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> |
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| Date | 2013-07-01 15:08 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.4068.1372684098.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #49555 |
Op 01-07-13 14:43, Steven D'Aprano schreef: > Νίκος, I am not going to wade through this long, long thread to see what > problem you are trying to solve today. Nikos is not trying to solve a problem in this thread. What happened is that the original poster here got a rather short answer to his question. Mark Laurence reacted questioning why this person didn't get the same kind of treatment as "Nick the Incompetant Greek". Then Nikos came in with an insulting remark. The rest developed from their. So nobody was trying to drive Nikos away (for asking questions). -- Antoon Pardon.
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