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  The EuroPython 2015 Keynotes "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@europython.eu> - 2015-07-10 12:40 +0200
    Re: The EuroPython 2015 Keynotes beliavsky@aol.com - 2015-07-10 05:01 -0700
      Re: The EuroPython 2015 Keynotes Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-11 04:57 +1000
        Re: The EuroPython 2015 Keynotes beliavsky@aol.com - 2015-07-10 14:14 -0700
          Re: The EuroPython 2015 Keynotes Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2015-07-10 21:41 +0000
          Re: The EuroPython 2015 Keynotes Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-07-10 19:14 -0400

#93628 — The EuroPython 2015 Keynotes

With Mandy Waite we have announced all keynotes for EuroPython 2015:
5 keynotes, 6 speakers, 4 women and 2 men.

Keynote Schedule
----------------

 * Monday: Ola Sendecka & Ola Sitarska
 * Tuesday: Guido van Rossum
 * Wednesday: Holger Krekel
 * Thursday: Carrie Anne
 * Friday: Mandy Waite

More details about the keynotes are available on the
EuroPython 2015 Keynotes page:

    https://ep2015.europython.eu/en/events/keynotes/

Enjoy,
--
EuroPython 2015 Team
http://ep2015.europython.eu/
http://www.europython-society.org/

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#93630

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 7:21:14 AM UTC-4, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> With Mandy Waite we have announced all keynotes for EuroPython 2015:
> 5 keynotes, 6 speakers, 4 women and 2 men.

Your mentioning these numbers makes me wonder if the organizing committee is using gender preferences in its selection of keynote speakers. I hope not. It is better to choose the speakers who will give the most interesting talks and let the demographic chips fall where they may.

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#93653

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 10:01 PM, beliavsky--- via Python-list
<python-list@python.org> wrote:
> On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 7:21:14 AM UTC-4, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> With Mandy Waite we have announced all keynotes for EuroPython 2015:
>> 5 keynotes, 6 speakers, 4 women and 2 men.
>
> Your mentioning these numbers makes me wonder if the organizing committee is using gender preferences in its selection of keynote speakers. I hope not. It is better to choose the speakers who will give the most interesting talks and let the demographic chips fall where they may.
>

I think that's more a matter of having the statistically-curious
brain. In my father's family, there are 5 sons and 2 daughters - does
that indicate gender preference in my reporting, or just an
acknowledgement of a fact?

ChrisA

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#93655

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 2:58:18 PM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 10:01 PM, beliavsky--- via Python-list
> <python-list@python.org> wrote:
> > On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 7:21:14 AM UTC-4, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> >> With Mandy Waite we have announced all keynotes for EuroPython 2015:
> >> 5 keynotes, 6 speakers, 4 women and 2 men.
> >
> > Your mentioning these numbers makes me wonder if the organizing committee is using gender preferences in its selection of keynote speakers. I hope not. It is better to choose the speakers who will give the most interesting talks and let the demographic chips fall where they may.
> >
> 
> I think that's more a matter of having the statistically-curious
> brain. In my father's family, there are 5 sons and 2 daughters - does
> that indicate gender preference in my reporting, or just an
> acknowledgement of a fact?

If 80% of Python programmers and potential speakers at a Python conference are male, the chance of 4 out 6 speakers being female is fairly low if gender is ignored. Some people think gender diversity in tech is so important that there should be gender preferences -- see for example this post by a Python blogger http://ilovesymposia.com/2015/04/03/calling-out-scipy-on-diversity/ . It is plausible that the organizers preferred female keynote speakers. Can the OP comment on this?

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#93656

On 2015-07-10, beliavsky@aol.com <beliavsky@aol.com> wrote:
> On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 2:58:18 PM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 10:01 PM, beliavsky--- via Python-list
>> <python-list@python.org> wrote:
>> > On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 7:21:14 AM UTC-4, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> >> With Mandy Waite we have announced all keynotes for EuroPython 2015:
>> >> 5 keynotes, 6 speakers, 4 women and 2 men.
>> >
>> > Your mentioning these numbers makes me wonder if the organizing
>> > committee is using gender preferences in its selection of keynote
>> > speakers. I hope not. It is better to choose the speakers who
>> > will give the most interesting talks and let the demographic
>> > chips fall where they may.
>> 
>> I think that's more a matter of having the statistically-curious
>> brain. In my father's family, there are 5 sons and 2 daughters - does
>> that indicate gender preference in my reporting, or just an
>> acknowledgement of a fact?
>
> If 80% of Python programmers and potential speakers at a Python
> conference are male, the chance of 4 out 6 speakers being female is
> fairly low if gender is ignored. Some people think gender diversity
> in tech is so important that there should be gender preferences --
> see for example this post by a Python blogger
> http://ilovesymposia.com/2015/04/03/calling-out-scipy-on-diversity/
> . It is plausible that the organizers preferred female keynote
> speakers.

I certainly hope they did, and applaud them if so.

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#93658

On 7/10/2015 5:14 PM, beliavsky--- via Python-list wrote:
> On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 2:58:18 PM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 10:01 PM, beliavsky--- via Python-list
>> <python-list@python.org> wrote:
>>> On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 7:21:14 AM UTC-4, M.-A. Lemburg
>>> wrote:
>>>> With Mandy Waite we have announced all keynotes for EuroPython
>>>> 2015: 5 keynotes, 6 speakers, 4 women and 2 men.

>>> Your mentioning these numbers makes me wonder if the organizing
>>> committee is using gender preferences in its selection of keynote
>>> speakers.

I am sure they did, just as most organizing committees have been doing 
for decades, though in the opposite direction. However, 2 of the 4 women 
are the founders of PyLadies, who I presume will talk about the 
successes and lessons of their work.  Eliminating them, we have a 
balanced 2 and 2.  About time.

> If 80% of Python programmers and potential speakers at a Python
> conference are male, the chance of 4 out 6 speakers being female is
> fairly low if gender is ignored. Some people think gender diversity
> in tech is so important that there should be gender preferences --
> see for example this post by a Python blogger
> http://ilovesymposia.com/2015/04/03/calling-out-scipy-on-diversity/ .

It is a real fact that some members of the tech community have tried to 
make people with female bodies feel unwelcome.  (Hardly unique, the same 
is true of the academic community, for instance.)  I strongly feel that 
all Python programmers who respect others should be respected and welcome.

> It is plausible that the organizers preferred female keynote
> speakers.

Assume so and don't go if it bothers you. Let us hope that this is a 
non-issue within a decade.

> Can the OP comment on this?

Mark has better things to do, like continuing preparing for the conference.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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