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Point of idle curiosity

Started byChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
First post2012-11-18 22:45 +1100
Last post2012-11-20 07:54 +1100
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  Point of idle curiosity Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-11-18 22:45 +1100
    Re: Point of idle curiosity Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-11-18 15:59 +0000
      Re: Point of idle curiosity Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-11-18 16:08 +0000
        Re: Point of idle curiosity Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2012-11-19 20:44 +0000
      Re: Point of idle curiosity Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-11-19 03:13 +1100
    Re: Point of idle curiosity Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-11-19 13:38 +0100
      Re: Point of idle curiosity Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-11-20 07:54 +1100

#33496 — Point of idle curiosity

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2012-11-18 22:45 +1100
SubjectPoint of idle curiosity
Message-ID<mailman.3789.1353239147.27098.python-list@python.org>
(if you'll forgive the pun)

Is IDLE named after Eric of that name, or is it pure coincidence?

ChrisA

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#33502

FromSteven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>
Date2012-11-18 15:59 +0000
Message-ID<50a905f7$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#33496
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:45:43 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:

> (if you'll forgive the pun)
> 
> Is IDLE named after Eric of that name, or is it pure coincidence?

Well, IDLE is an IDE. The L doesn't seem to mean anything, so it's 
plausible that it is named after Eric Idle.


-- 
Steven

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#33503

FromMark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2012-11-18 16:08 +0000
Message-ID<mailman.3792.1353254829.27098.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#33502
On 18/11/2012 15:59, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:45:43 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> (if you'll forgive the pun)
>>
>> Is IDLE named after Eric of that name, or is it pure coincidence?
>
> Well, IDLE is an IDE. The L doesn't seem to mean anything, so it's
> plausible that it is named after Eric Idle.
>
>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDLE_%28Python%29

-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence.

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#33554

FromAlister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com>
Date2012-11-19 20:44 +0000
Message-ID<PSwqs.224087$Xv.172393@fx07.am4>
In reply to#33503
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:08:34 +0000, Mark Lawrence wrote:

> On 18/11/2012 15:59, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:45:43 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>>> (if you'll forgive the pun)
>>>
>>> Is IDLE named after Eric of that name, or is it pure coincidence?
>>
>> Well, IDLE is an IDE. The L doesn't seem to mean anything, so it's
>> plausible that it is named after Eric Idle.
>>
>>
>>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDLE_%28Python%29

i think it is fairly safe to assume that for most (if not all) good 
sounding acronyms the acronym was chosen before the meaning or at least 
chosen from short list of possible meanings because it looked good.



-- 
I THINK MAN INVENTED THE CAR by instinct.
		-- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988.

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#33504

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2012-11-19 03:13 +1100
Message-ID<mailman.3793.1353255193.27098.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#33502
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 18/11/2012 15:59, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:45:43 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>>> (if you'll forgive the pun)
>>>
>>> Is IDLE named after Eric of that name, or is it pure coincidence?
>>
>>
>> Well, IDLE is an IDE. The L doesn't seem to mean anything, so it's
>> plausible that it is named after Eric Idle.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDLE_%28Python%29
>

Thanks both. I went looking at the docs, but didn't find anything
conclusive either way. It's sometimes hard to know just how much Monty
Python there is in the language... which justified me getting a bit
naughty a couple of weeks ago and almost citing the Python language
in-character in my Dungeons and Dragons campaign:

"There is still a cheeseshop owned by his family. It's called PyPi,
though whether that's an abbreviation for something or not is not
reported here."

And then when they went to the place, I described it thusly:

"It's all done up with a pythonic decor. Everything's nicely done up
with snakes; the walls have indented blocks with no braces on them."

Now I just need to find a signwriter and graphic designer named Eric
Haffabee, laying around idle all the time... or maybe that's too
obscure a set of references.

ChrisA

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#33537

FromUlrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com>
Date2012-11-19 13:38 +0100
Message-ID<vqlpn9-kcs.ln1@satorlaser.homedns.org>
In reply to#33496
Am 18.11.2012 12:45, schrieb Chris Angelico:
> (if you'll forgive the pun)

Nevarr!


> Is IDLE named after Eric of that name, or is it pure coincidence?

Maybe. Interestingly, there is also 
http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/, just to add some more unfounded 
conspiracy theories to this discussion. :P

Uli

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#33557

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2012-11-20 07:54 +1100
Message-ID<mailman.12.1353358496.29569.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#33537
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Ulrich Eckhardt
<ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> wrote:
> Am 18.11.2012 12:45, schrieb Chris Angelico:
>> Is IDLE named after Eric of that name, or is it pure coincidence?
>
>
> Maybe. Interestingly, there is also http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/,
> just to add some more unfounded conspiracy theories to this discussion. :P

Wait, that's completely separate. I don't think Eric Idle was ever a
member of the Eric Conspiracy.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/ecsl/

ChrisA

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