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Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language

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  Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-10 00:27 +1100
    Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-12-09 11:06 -0500
      Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-12-10 03:25 +1100

#61383 — Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Oscar Benjamin
<oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1) Some people felt that Python is not an "industry standard" unlike
> C/C++/Java and that it is not as good for employability.

Disprove that by checking any job listing site in your area/industry.
You'll find plenty of Python jobs there.

ChrisA

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#61393

In article <mailman.3776.1386595668.18130.python-list@python.org>,
 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Oscar Benjamin
> <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 1) Some people felt that Python is not an "industry standard" unlike
> > C/C++/Java and that it is not as good for employability.
> 
> Disprove that by checking any job listing site in your area/industry.
> You'll find plenty of Python jobs there.
> 
> ChrisA

I have access to the resume search feature on careers.stackoverflow.com.  
Just for fun, I ran the following searches (for skills advertised by 
people who have listed their resumes):

C        1k
C++      1.3k
Java     1.7k
Python   1.2k

The search qualifiers were "within 200 miles of the United States", 
"legal right to work here required", "full time", "exclude students", 
and, "only active candidates".

Not sure what the proves, other than these are the languages people who 
are looking for jobs know (or at least claim to know).

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#61396

On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote:
> Not sure what the proves, other than these are the languages people who
> are looking for jobs know (or at least claim to know).

That's the converse of what I was talking about. Employability of a
skill depends on how many employers are looking for that skill;
sightings on resumes aren't quite that. But since people will put on
their resumes what they think employers will actually care about (mine
doesn't mention my ability to use Q-BASIC's CALL ABSOLUTE command to
make use of a mouse), they're going to be at least somewhat connected.
Of course, it might be that stackoverflow careers attracts Python
programmers and something else attracts C programmers, but unless
there's some really major skew, I'd say it's still at least somewhat
valid to point to that and show that Python matters to employment.

ChrisA

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