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  Re: (side-)effects and ... Tony the Tiger <tony@tiger.invalid> - 2015-07-09 19:36 +0000
    Re: (side-)effects and ... random832@fastmail.us - 2015-07-09 19:04 -0400
    Re: (side-)effects and ... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-10 12:05 +1000
    Re: (side-)effects and ... Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 22:26 -0600
    Re: (side-)effects and ... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-07-11 00:18 +1000

#93596 — Re: (side-)effects and ...

On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 20:29:11 +0000, Stefan Ram wrote:

> X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 2015 Stefan Ram. All rights reserved.
> Distribution through any means other than regular usenet channels is
> forbidden. It is forbidden to publish this article in the world wide
> web. It is forbidden to change URIs of this article into links. It is
> forbidden to remove this notice or to transfer the body without this
> notice.
> X-No-Archive: Yes Archive: no X-No-Archive-Readme: "X-No-Archive" is
> only set, because this prevents some
> services to mirror the article via the web (HTTP). But Stefan Ram
> hereby allows to keep this article within a Usenet archive server with
> only NNTP access without any time limitation.
> X-No-Html: yes

Gee, are you serious? <(@.@`)?


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#93614

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015, at 15:36, Tony the Tiger wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 20:29:11 +0000, Stefan Ram wrote:
> 
> > X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 2015 Stefan Ram. All rights reserved.
> > Distribution through any means other than regular usenet channels is
> > forbidden. It is forbidden to publish this article in the world wide
> > web. It is forbidden to change URIs of this article into links. It is
> > forbidden to remove this notice or to transfer the body without this
> > notice.
> > X-No-Archive: Yes Archive: no X-No-Archive-Readme: "X-No-Archive" is
> > only set, because this prevents some
> > services to mirror the article via the web (HTTP). But Stefan Ram
> > hereby allows to keep this article within a Usenet archive server with
> > only NNTP access without any time limitation.
> > X-No-Html: yes

That's ridiculous. Why is he even including URIs if he doesn't want them
to be links - a feature many newsreaders and terminal emulators have
(and can't read these instructions) even regardless of web mirroring?

Also, he should not post here, because all articles posted here are
automatically put on a mailing list and that list's web-accessible
archive. Do we have a cancelbot so he can be effectively blocked from
posting (since the list is incapable of complying with his conditions)?

@Stefan, why are you here?

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#93622

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Skip Montanaro
<skip.montanaro@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Also, he should not post here, because all articles posted here are
>> automatically put on a mailing list and that list's web-accessible
>> archive.
>
> I thought so at first add well. It looks like the Mailman system handles the
> X-No-Archive and/or Archive headers. I couldn't find his name in this
> month's archive.

Even if it respects that, there's no way that Mailman can know to
respect his ridiculous copyright restriction. Human-readable text in a
copyright notice is not going to affect an automated system. If he
tries to sue Mailman or the PSF or "the internet" for distributing his
text in violation of his copyright, I hope that an intelligent judge
would liken it to posting your phone number on a billboard and then
complaining that people are ringing you. When you put something out
there in public, it's public, and people can and will see it.

ChrisA

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#93623

On 07/09/2015 08:05 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> I thought so at first add well. It looks like the Mailman system handles the
>> X-No-Archive and/or Archive headers. I couldn't find his name in this
>> month's archive.
> 
> Even if it respects that, there's no way that Mailman can know to
> respect his ridiculous copyright restriction. Human-readable text in a
> copyright notice is not going to affect an automated system. If he
> tries to sue Mailman or the PSF or "the internet" for distributing his
> text in violation of his copyright, I hope that an intelligent judge
> would liken it to posting your phone number on a billboard and then
> complaining that people are ringing you. When you put something out
> there in public, it's public, and people can and will see it.

I received his message via the e-mail gateway, so oh nos apparently
copyright has already been violated!

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#93638

On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Skip Montanaro
<skip.montanaro@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure about X-No-Html. A quick Google search for that header returned
> nothing useful.

Yeah. At best it seems redundant - "Hey look, there's no HTML in this
message!" - but I suspect it's mainly bragging "I can add headers to
my posts".

ChrisA

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